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9/1 GT - Mets at Sox (1:10pm CT)
Lip Man 1 replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in 2024 Season in Review
It actually was lowest one season of the first "rebuild." -
Thorpe season ending bone spur surgery in elbow
Lip Man 1 replied to fathom's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If they knew and let him pitch anyway that's as bad as mismanaging Robert to the point he was swinging with one hand. -
Thorpe season ending bone spur surgery in elbow
Lip Man 1 replied to fathom's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Don't know if this is related to the dreaded "forearm soreness" or not. If it is, this is actually good news, because it means TJS isn't in the short term forecast. But it is interesting that the MRI's they did, and the Sox publicly stated there was nothing wrong with the UCL, how could they not see a bone spur? And why did it take them weeks to find it? Perhaps the trainers/doctors on the site can explain this. -
That would be hard to do according to the terms of his contract and as long as they are making money (and they are) the minority owners wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court and you can bet JR would immediately go to court. When Jerry passes his family will sell the team as per his instructions.
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My advice since we are all loyal Sox fans is to stop following THIS team but keep watching those past games from better seasons be it on You Tube or in your own personal collection of VHS tapes and DVD's.
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Incidents of the season: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/09/01/chicago-white-sox-record-losses/ Pham by the way was just claimed by the Royals.
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Chet Lemon in bad shape from multiple strokes
Lip Man 1 replied to The Mighty Mite's topic in Pale Hose Talk
August 1, 1982 - With the White Sox up, 3-0, in the top of the sixth at Comiskey Park, Ron LeFlore committed the worst error of his career. Catcher Gary Allenson lofted a soft liner to center field, and the ball struck LeFlore on his forehead as he drifted back to make the catch. A crazy bounce aided Allenson’s romp around the bases for an inside the park home run, to trim starter Jerry Koosman’s lead to 3-1. LeFlore, however, had a great day at the plate, leading off and going 2-for-3 with two RBIs. It was his double in the third inning that game the White Sox a 1-0 lead that they would not relinquish. -
It's already been published in the Sun-Times, the Sox are cutting payroll again next year down to around 100 million. You'll get nothing and like it! (But be sure to get that money in for season tickets now!) 😆
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8/31 Sox vs. Metropolitans 6:10PM
Lip Man 1 replied to DoUEvenShift's topic in 2024 Season in Review
Met fans took over the bleachers: -
That's his M.O. And to think he actually said this at one time: “Eddie and I never discussed how to talk to reporters. We’ve just been ourselves. I always thought Jack Kennedy was the kind of person I looked up to in that regard. He always gave the media a fair shake and understood you guys have a job to do. Without responsible people willing to divulge some accurate information, it’s hard to do it right. It was a much better approach then Nixon, who figured the media, was his enemy. Doing it Kennedy’s way just makes a lot more sense to me. After all, nobody can buy the kind of advertising Chicago teams get. What other line of work finds newspapers assigning people to follow you around and write about how the business is doing every day? At Balcor, we have to hire a public relations firm to get our names in the paper. When baseball teams get that for free, it makes sense to cooperate.” – Jerry Reinsdorf to Bob Logan. From the book ‘Miracle On 35th Street.’ Pg. 154. Published 1983.
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8/31 Sox vs. Metropolitans 6:10PM
Lip Man 1 replied to DoUEvenShift's topic in 2024 Season in Review
As of today Cubs have a 5% chance of making the post season. That's UP from 3% at the end of July. They'll finish with a winning record but they aren't going to the postseason. (Fingers crossed) -
“One of the things I owe the fans is to get better as fast as we can possibly get better. Speed is of the essence. I don’t want this to be a long-term proposition. I would hope — and I expect — that next year is going to be a lot better than this year. How much better? I don’t know.”-- Jerry Reinsdorf, August 31, 2023. 😆🤡😆🤡😆
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8/31 Sox vs. Metropolitans 6:10PM
Lip Man 1 replied to DoUEvenShift's topic in 2024 Season in Review
The only good news I get out of any of this is, this keeps screwing over the Cubs who are red hot, beating up on garbage teams, but can't gain any ground in the Wild Card race. -
Luis Aparicio even at his age is probably better than any of the stiffs on the roster.
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8/31 Sox vs. Metropolitans 6:10PM
Lip Man 1 replied to DoUEvenShift's topic in 2024 Season in Review
Tomorrow they'll set the franchise record for losses AND record their third double-digit losing streak of the season AND go 0-10 on the homestand. That's called a triple crown of ineptitude! -
https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/08/31/white-sox-record-tying-106th-loss-marks-grim-first-anniversary-of-jerry-reinsdorf-hiring-chris-getz-as-gm "One year after Reinsdorf promoted Getz and said he didn’t want any remodel to be a “long-term proposition,” the rebuilding Sox tied the 1970 team’s franchise record for defeats in a season with a 5-3 loss to the Mets." 😆
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You never know...new ownership could arrive before then.
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Chet Lemon in bad shape from multiple strokes
Lip Man 1 replied to The Mighty Mite's topic in Pale Hose Talk
To answer your question as to why Chet was traded. He talked about it with me: ML: You hit .302 in the strike shortened season and played your usual solid defense but on November 27, 1981 you were shipped to Detroit for Steve Kemp. The reasoning as I remember it was that the Sox wanted more balance in the lineup and Kemp was left handed. (Author’s Note: Harold Baines was basically the only power threat from the left side as opposed to having guys like Fisk, Luzinski and the newly acquired Tom Paciorek who were all right handed hitters.) Were you ever told by the Sox why they let you go? CL: "That may have been part of it but there was another reason." "In spring training 1981 I had verbally agreed to a five year contract that would have made me the highest paid player on the team. It was a great negotiation. Eddie Einhorn, Jerry Reinsdorf, Roland Hemond, my agent and I all sat around a table one day and worked everything out including some deferred compensation. For some reason I hadn’t gotten around to actually signing the document though. A few weeks later they signed Carlton Fisk and his numbers came out. When I saw those I told my agent “hmmmm maybe we need to renegotiate.” Everything that I did in five years, I did in Chicago and now I wasn’t going to be the highest paid player anymore? I know it was childish on my part but that’s the way I felt at the time." "It created some problems. After a period of time I said that I’d just play my next year out (1982) and then see what happens in that off season. I guess the Sox thought that I was automatically going to go the free agent route and that wasn’t necessarily the case. However I did know that other clubs were interested, I knew that Earl Weaver of the Orioles wanted me badly and that the Sox were close to trading me to them at one time." "It was weird how some things happened. I mean "Bull" Luzinski, whom I respected, and thought did a great job for us by supplying power, came out and said something like ‘if he’s not going to sign then we need to get somebody for him.’ After the trade I did play out my option but Detroit re-signed me to a 10 year deal which gave me security. I had some no trade clauses in it so I had some control if I was going to be uprooted again." -
Depends on how you look at it, there have been other terrible franchises recently aka Kansas City, for years Tampa Bay immediately come to mind. I never heard or read anyone crying about how their ineptitude was impacting other teams financially. MLB is now a 10 billion dollar a year business, that from Manfred himself. I think the sport will survive with the Sox being atrocious and embarrassing. (I wish they were a top flight operation myself though...)
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From my sources for a story I did in November 2022: “The White Sox playing shorthanded started in 2007 when Jermaine Dye got hurt and Kenny Williams refused to call up Brian Anderson or Ryan Sweeney. Maybe they were cheap, maybe they wanted to protect Herm’s record of keeping guys off the DL.” (Author’s Note: Herm Schneider was the Sox longtime head trainer and for years the Sox were among the league leaders in keeping players healthy.) “Jake Peavy made the comment one time, ‘They have no reservations about playing shorthanded.”
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Multiple stories have already come out saying next year's payroll will be around 100 million and no meaningful free agent activity will take place. From my sources for a story I did in November 2022: “People, his friends… have tried to tell him what has been going on, “Hawk” Harrelson, the late Ed Farmer… God rest his soul, Darrin Jackson, Scott Reifert (Author’s Note: Scott is the Senior Vice-President for Communications) , Bob Grim and others but it’s just not registering for some reason.” “JR has become oblivious to things and what he’s allowed to happen is sad. He’s probably the most successful owner in Chicago sports history given the Bulls titles and the White Sox one which is dear to his heart, but what has happened the last two years is just sad. He is out-of-touch. And even worse he’s inaccessible. He’s either afraid of having to answer questions or he’s incapable of doing so.”
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I find this hard to believe but numbers are numbers: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/08/30/gavin-sheets-not-letting-sox-season-drag-him-down In 18 games since Aug. 7, he was hitting .385 (25-for-65) with five doubles and a home run for a .902 OPS. Only the Yankees’ Aaron Judge (.397) and the Astros’ Yordan Alvarez (.397) had higher batting averages in that span.
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I think I saw recently where they were like 26th or 27th in MLB. Averaging about four thousand less than last season. JR won't have to worry again about having to pay the state money based on the lack of attendance! 😆 (You talk about an incentive NOT to win. How in the world the stadium authority agreed to that clause is beyond me...)