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With respect I strongly disagree.

Zavala on the Blue Jays: “Those [bleepers], they just foul off a lot of [bleep] and it puts us in a hole,” a frustrated Zavala said, “and maybe makes us feel like we don’t know how to get them out or something. I don’t really know.” It's called having professional hitters who know the strike zone and make pitchers work Sevy!

More opponents scoring runs with two out in an inning today.

Would take him in a heartbeat but would JR???

As arrogant and detached from reality as he is, he absolutely can think that.

I suspect the injuries, missing a season because he didn't want to participate in the COVID year and some off field personal drama have all contributed.

April 26, 1925 - The Sox forfeited a game to the Indians. It happened in front of a Comiskey Park record crowd of 44,000 fans. With the Sox losing 7-2 in the ninth inning, many fans stormed the field thinking the game was over after a close play at first. It wasn’t, as the runner was safe because of an error on the first baseman and there were only two outs. Order was never restored and a forfeit was declared. For the record the final score went down as a 9-0 Indians win. April 26, 2019 – It was one of the wildest games in team history as the White Sox beat the Tigers in come from behind fashion 12-11 at Guaranteed Rate Field. The Sox trailed 8-1 and 9-2 at various points in the game before making a major comeback to win it. The Sox thought they had a 12-10 lead after Jose Abreu hit what was believed to be a three-run home run in the seventh inning, however his towering drive caused Tim Anderson at first base to hesitate before running and Abreu momentarily passed him on the bases. A three-run home run became a two-run single, an 11-10 lead and an out for Jose. After Detroit tied the game, Anderson then hit a slider into the seats, off Joe Jimenez, to win it in walk-off fashion in the last of the ninth inning.

Why would they do this when they are making money? And given they are all around JR's age you trhink they'd have the stomach for a court battle?

The board of directors has NO say in the running of the franchise. NONE. It is written in JR's contract that he has final say on everything including a potential sale. In the rare times he has spoken on it JR has said he does NOT want his family keeping the franchise when he is gone, so the idea of transferring the team to his son wouldn't agree with his stated plan. JR has said when he is gone to "sell the Sox, keep the Bulls."

KW will be around as long as he has a valid contract. Again I've been told that is supposed to go through the 2024 season.

Nothing will really change until JR is gone, it's really that simple and factual.

Sox are now 0-7-1 in series and still haven't won two games in a row.

Sox Machine nails it yet again: https://soxmachine.com/2023/04/preparation-accountability-remain-elusive-concepts-to-white-sox/

No. When Kenny retires after 24 Hahn will be kicked upstairs (this is all assuming JR still owns the club)

He's involved in all major decisions on and off the field just like JR.

I have a feeling Kenny’s “accountability” comment is going to go in White Sox lore like these other gems: “We’re going to make this a first-class organization.” – Eddie Einhorn 1/29/81 “Wherever you’re at, Harry (Caray) and Jimmy (Piersall), eat your hearts out. I hope people realize what scum you are.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 9/17/83 “Our goal is to have a team that is a contender every year.”– Jerry Reinsdorf 9/18/83 “We feel we owe this town a winner or a contender every year.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 10/2/85 “The fact is, Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.” – Jerry Reinsdorf September 1990. “I’m a dove until they strike” – Jerry Reinsdorf August 1994 “Anyone who thinks this Sox team can catch Cleveland is crazy.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 7/31/97 “You can’t spend a dollar if you only have fifty cents” – Kenny Williams “Talk to me after the parade” – Rick Hahn “There are fans out there who want the rebuild to fail so they can say, ‘I told you so’” – Rick Hahn White Sox fans don’t forget…

Actually has some candid comments to the Sun-Times. Some that give you hope: If the Sox aren’t who they thought they were — a team with the expectation of still winning the division, Williams said — “then changes have to be made, it’s as simple as that.” “It’s professional sports,” he said. “There’s no way around it and that’s whether it’s in the clubhouse or here with us in the front office.” Some that make you laugh out loud: “Accountability around here is not a problem.” https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/4/25/23697737/williams-on-white-sox-struggles-im-not-in-a-good-place-right-now?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=042523 Afternoon Edition&utm_content=042523 Afternoon Edition+CID_345f7f6a25d176d6d40140834ab3e2b4&utm_source=cst campaign monitor&utm_term=executive vice president Ken Williams says hes not in a good place right now&tpcc=042523 Afternoon Edition

June 2, 1995 - With the Sox having blown four straight games to the Indians, and off to an 11-20 start, manager Gene Lamont was fired and replaced by abrasive, taciturn third base coach Terry Bevington. Bevington would turn out to be a disaster on the field and in the clubhouse and the long-term effects of the way Lamont was dismissed would cause his mentor and former Sox coach Jim Leyland to turn down overtures by owner Jerry Reinsdorf to take over after Bevington was removed before the start of the 1998 season. He’d be replaced by first time manager Jerry Manuel.

April 25, 1951 - Sox slugger Eddie Robinson hit the first rooftop home run by a Sox player at the original Comiskey Park. Robinson’s blast was off the Browns Al Widmar in the third inning. The Sox won the game 8-6. Robinson hit 29 home runs that year and drove in 117 RBI’s as the Sox went 81-73-1. He would live to the ripe old age of 101! April 25, 2004 – Coming over from the Bulls organization, Brooks Boyer was named vice president of marketing, replacing the taciturn and aloof Rob Gallas. Boyer immediately instituted a series of great ad campaigns including “Sox Pride,” “Win or Die Trying,” "Us vs. Them" and “Change the Game” over the years that keyed interest, tweaked the Cubs directly and generated excitement among the fan base. April 25, 2014 – It was the first big moment in what would be a long and stellar White Sox career for Jose Abreu. The Cuban native smashed a two out ‘walk off’ grand slam off Grant Balfour to beat the Rays 9-6. Abreu would cap off his rookie season by garnering the American League Rookie of the Year award from both The Sporting News and The Baseball Writers Association of America for blasting 36 home runs, with 35 doubles, 80 runs scored, 107 RBI’s, hitting .317 and leading the league in slugging percentage at .581 April 25, 2016 – Relief pitcher Matt Albers threw his 30th consecutive scoreless outing breaking the team record set by Jesse Crain. The record dated back to August 5, 2015 and spanned 33 innings. Albers’ streak would end that weekend in Baltimore on April 30 when two unearned runs would cross the plate that was charged to him because of a two-out error by Jose Abreu.

I've been told Kenny's deal is up after next year. And as long as JR is making money the results on the field are secondary. He still wants to win, but HIS way which is an important distinction.

With Reynolds signing that eight year, nine figure deal with the Pirates today only three teams have never given out that large (nine figures) contract... Kansas City Oakland (soon to be Las Vegas) And.......... Your Chicago White Sox Great company to be associated with no? ?

I honestly think some guys really don't want to be here but circumstances put them in that position and it shows. Also this organization has basically had a culture of losing since 2007 (only five winning seasons) players know this stuff and that has to make an impact.

And then two weeks after Anderson and Moncada return they'll get hurt again. ?

I read the story in the Sun-Times that said JR left before that rain delayed game with Baltimore even finished.

Interesting that the manager talks basically about everything the Sox need to be doing to turn things around but doesn't explain why they can't seem to do so or why what he and the coaches are trying to get across is falling on deaf ears.