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He's involved in all major decisions on and off the field just like JR.
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I have a feeling Kenny’s “accountability” comment is going to go in White Sox lore like these other gems: “We’re going to make this a first-class organization.” – Eddie Einhorn 1/29/81 “Wherever you’re at, Harry (Caray) and Jimmy (Piersall), eat your hearts out. I hope people realize what scum you are.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 9/17/83 “Our goal is to have a team that is a contender every year.”– Jerry Reinsdorf 9/18/83 “We feel we owe this town a winner or a contender every year.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 10/2/85 “The fact is, Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.” – Jerry Reinsdorf September 1990. “I’m a dove until they strike” – Jerry Reinsdorf August 1994 “Anyone who thinks this Sox team can catch Cleveland is crazy.” – Jerry Reinsdorf 7/31/97 “You can’t spend a dollar if you only have fifty cents” – Kenny Williams “Talk to me after the parade” – Rick Hahn “There are fans out there who want the rebuild to fail so they can say, ‘I told you so’” – Rick Hahn White Sox fans don’t forget…
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Actually has some candid comments to the Sun-Times. Some that give you hope: If the Sox aren’t who they thought they were — a team with the expectation of still winning the division, Williams said — “then changes have to be made, it’s as simple as that.” “It’s professional sports,” he said. “There’s no way around it and that’s whether it’s in the clubhouse or here with us in the front office.” Some that make you laugh out loud: “Accountability around here is not a problem.” https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/4/25/23697737/williams-on-white-sox-struggles-im-not-in-a-good-place-right-now?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=042523 Afternoon Edition&utm_content=042523 Afternoon Edition+CID_345f7f6a25d176d6d40140834ab3e2b4&utm_source=cst campaign monitor&utm_term=executive vice president Ken Williams says hes not in a good place right now&tpcc=042523 Afternoon Edition
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June 2, 1995 - With the Sox having blown four straight games to the Indians, and off to an 11-20 start, manager Gene Lamont was fired and replaced by abrasive, taciturn third base coach Terry Bevington. Bevington would turn out to be a disaster on the field and in the clubhouse and the long-term effects of the way Lamont was dismissed would cause his mentor and former Sox coach Jim Leyland to turn down overtures by owner Jerry Reinsdorf to take over after Bevington was removed before the start of the 1998 season. He’d be replaced by first time manager Jerry Manuel.
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April 25, 1951 - Sox slugger Eddie Robinson hit the first rooftop home run by a Sox player at the original Comiskey Park. Robinson’s blast was off the Browns Al Widmar in the third inning. The Sox won the game 8-6. Robinson hit 29 home runs that year and drove in 117 RBI’s as the Sox went 81-73-1. He would live to the ripe old age of 101! April 25, 2004 – Coming over from the Bulls organization, Brooks Boyer was named vice president of marketing, replacing the taciturn and aloof Rob Gallas. Boyer immediately instituted a series of great ad campaigns including “Sox Pride,” “Win or Die Trying,” "Us vs. Them" and “Change the Game” over the years that keyed interest, tweaked the Cubs directly and generated excitement among the fan base. April 25, 2014 – It was the first big moment in what would be a long and stellar White Sox career for Jose Abreu. The Cuban native smashed a two out ‘walk off’ grand slam off Grant Balfour to beat the Rays 9-6. Abreu would cap off his rookie season by garnering the American League Rookie of the Year award from both The Sporting News and The Baseball Writers Association of America for blasting 36 home runs, with 35 doubles, 80 runs scored, 107 RBI’s, hitting .317 and leading the league in slugging percentage at .581 April 25, 2016 – Relief pitcher Matt Albers threw his 30th consecutive scoreless outing breaking the team record set by Jesse Crain. The record dated back to August 5, 2015 and spanned 33 innings. Albers’ streak would end that weekend in Baltimore on April 30 when two unearned runs would cross the plate that was charged to him because of a two-out error by Jose Abreu.
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I've been told Kenny's deal is up after next year. And as long as JR is making money the results on the field are secondary. He still wants to win, but HIS way which is an important distinction.
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With Reynolds signing that eight year, nine figure deal with the Pirates today only three teams have never given out that large (nine figures) contract... Kansas City Oakland (soon to be Las Vegas) And.......... Your Chicago White Sox Great company to be associated with no? ?
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I honestly think some guys really don't want to be here but circumstances put them in that position and it shows. Also this organization has basically had a culture of losing since 2007 (only five winning seasons) players know this stuff and that has to make an impact.
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And then two weeks after Anderson and Moncada return they'll get hurt again. ?
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I read the story in the Sun-Times that said JR left before that rain delayed game with Baltimore even finished.
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Interesting that the manager talks basically about everything the Sox need to be doing to turn things around but doesn't explain why they can't seem to do so or why what he and the coaches are trying to get across is falling on deaf ears.
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The Sox have now scored three runs or less in 12 of their 23 games...that's 52%. And in five of the last six games. Even worse than last season when if memory serves they were at 50% exactly for the entire year.
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"Window of contention!..." ?
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Thank you.
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How many times will the Sox be .500 this season?
Lip Man 1 replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't and the losing streak stretched to 11. -
Can't wait to hear/read Rick Hahn's comments when the Sox come home Thursday...should be a hoot!
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I don't know if it is possible to find this out but my guess is the White Sox lead MLB in allowing two out runs. Simply ludicrous. Again tonight Toronto score a bunch with two out. Seems to happen every game.
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Since the start of the 2007 season the Sox have been one of the worst teams in baseball.
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April 24, 1901 - The White Sox played their first regular season game as part of the officially recognized American League. In fact, it was the first game ever played in the league overall. They beat the Cleveland Blues 8-2. Outfielder William “Dummy” Hoy got the first White Sox at bat. Fred Hartman’s hit scored the first two runs for the Sox in American League history. Hoy was a deaf-mute and in order for him to understand what the umpires were calling; the arbitrators came up with a series of hand signals indicating safe/out/ball/strike. The ceremonial first ball by the way, was supposed to be thrown out by Robert Burke, special counsel to the mayor. He declined however, stating that he was afraid the ball might get hit back to him. (True story!) Hoyt by the way, actually preferred being called “Dummy” instead of his first name. April 24, 1955 - In a game at Kansas City, Sox starter Dick Donovan was hit early and often and when manager Marty Marion came out to take the ball from him, Donovan, showing his competitive spirit and concerned about a possible return trip to the minors, refused to give it to him! Marion had to reassure Dick that he’d stay a part of the rotation before Donovan would turn the ball over and leave the field. That season he’d win 13 of 17 decisions with an ERA of 2.70 before an emergency appendectomy felled him in late July. That injury may have cost the Sox the pennant as Donovan wasn’t the same after the surgery. The Sox finished in third place, five games behind the Yankees at 91-63-1.
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In general terms Garfein has been saying more time is needed to really see where this season is going although he has admitted (after the fact) that last year he knew things were going south and the season was over after Baltimore took three of four from the Sox in Chicago. McGuffie (sorry about the spelling) is being more candid and producing stats that show how bad the Sox are and that it doesn't figure to change. neither has (of course) been making any direct attacks about ownership/front office incompetence.
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But it is the fan base that's paying the price.
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Moncada actually dealing with a back issue.
Lip Man 1 replied to Greg Hibbard's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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It doesn't but when you have the owners Chicago's teams have, what you see is what you get, has been that way for decades.
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“With :30 seconds left in their selection time on draft day JR would say things like “You know this college right-handed pitcher has the lowest injury risk.” I can tell you from multiple sources JR is involved in draft selections.
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September 15, 1990 - Owner Jerry Reinsdorf fired G.M. Larry Himes citing ‘personality differences.’ Himes drafted and signed Sox future stars like Frank Thomas, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura and Alex Fernandez. During the press conference announcing the hiring of Ron Schueler as new G.M., Reinsdorf issued his famous ‘Point A to point B to point C’ comment. Later in a rare radio appearance he was candid on the subject to host Chet Coppock. “The fact is Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.”