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Eloy to IL, low grade hamstring strain - retroactive to 4/4
Lip Man 1 replied to raBBit's topic in Pale Hose Talk
No it is his left leg according to the story in the Sun-Times. -
4/6/23 Giants @ White Sox 1:10 Game Time
Lip Man 1 replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
One week in and guys already need rest? OK then... -
4/5/23 Giants @ White Sox 1:10 Game Time
Lip Man 1 replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Not necessarily. The Sox are already eating Garcia's salary...would they do it again? I think he makes around four million. -
Eloy to IL, low grade hamstring strain - retroactive to 4/4
Lip Man 1 replied to raBBit's topic in Pale Hose Talk
DVS of the Sun-Times with the story and his injury history: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/4/5/23671185/white-sox-place-eloy-jimenez-on-10-day-injured-list -
Eloy to IL, low grade hamstring strain - retroactive to 4/4
Lip Man 1 replied to raBBit's topic in Pale Hose Talk
"Mild" depends on your definition though doesn't it. They are saying two/three weeks. I'm guessing if it is three weeks he'll have to go to Charlotte for a few games to get back into playing shape. The guy's injury history is a long one, some of it appears to be bad luck, some of it is "baseball-stupidity" (all the injuries crashing into walls) but the fact is he hasn't played in roughly (if I remember a recent story) 40% of potential games. That's not piling on, those are the facts. Jesse Rogers pissed Rick Hahn off last year when he asked if Eloy was injury prone but he wasn't asking the question to be an ass, just look at the record. Eloy loses 30 pounds which was great and he STILL gets hurt doing a simple thing like running the bases. With him (and some others on this team) it is constant. Just another reason why many Sox fans are angry, frustrated and have decided to scale back interest. -
Eloy to IL, low grade hamstring strain - retroactive to 4/4
Lip Man 1 replied to raBBit's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It would be an option but knowing this organization and their arrogance and the fact that they have little credibility with the fan base, I don't see how they could sell it. I'm guessing they would do the opposite, if they felt they had any chance of saving the season, they would sell out the minor league system, double-down and hope for the best. Again though hope is not a strategy. -
Eloy to IL, low grade hamstring strain - retroactive to 4/4
Lip Man 1 replied to raBBit's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Just wondering which media member will be the first to ask Rick if Eloy is "injury prone." (Remember last season?) ? -
April 5, 1960 - Shortly before the season opened, the Sox ended their decimation of the young players on their roster, by shipping future All-Star and power hitting catcher Earl Battey along with future power hitting All-Star first baseman Don Mincher to the Senators for power hitting first baseman Roy Sievers. Sievers gave the Sox some good years, averaging 27 home runs, 92 RBI’s and a .295 batting average in two seasons. He had a 21-game hitting streak in 1960 and made the All-Star team in 1961. But Battey, who cried when he was told he was traded, may have won the Sox the pennant in 1964, 1967 or both just by himself (to say nothing of other players shipped out that off season like Johnny Romano, Norm Cash and Johnny Callison.) Battey would go on to make four All-Star appearances and win three Gold Gloves at catcher along with helping the Twins get to the World Series in 1965. Mincher would become a two-time All-Star and help the Twins get to the World Series in 1965 and the A’s in 1972. April 5, 1974 - The Sox opened the season at home under freezing conditions versus the Angels and Nolan Ryan. The Sox started Wilbur Wood which caused broadcaster Harry Caray to comment that the game was “The tortoise against the hare.” This time the hare won as Ryan and the Angels got an easy 8-2 victory. The game did have its moments however. The streaking craze had hit college campuses and, on this day, a few young ladies in the upper deck decided to partially streak while a young man jumped the outfield fence and ran naked through left field before being hoisted back into the stands by his friends. Sox manager Chuck Tanner had one of the best lines anywhere when asked what he thought about the outfield streaker. “I wasn’t impressed by him.” (nudge, nudge, wink, wink...say no more!) April 5, 1977 - Literally a few hours before the team was to head north to open the season, owner Bill Veeck traded shortstop Russell “Bucky” Dent to the Yankees. Salary was the reasoning behind it and Veeck’s comment that “I’d trade Dent even up for any other starting shortstop in the American League” didn’t help matters. In return the Sox got outfielder Oscar Gamble, pitcher Bob Polinsky, minor league pitcher LaMarr Hoyt and $200,000 dollars. Gamble would be a big part of the 1977 hitting orgy, belting 31 home runs, while Hoyt would have some good seasons with the Sox culminating with the 1983 Cy Young Award when he won 24 games. Between 1980 and 1983 Hoyt won 61 games and saved 10 others. April 5, 2004 - New Manager Ozzie Guillen figured he had his debut game all wrapped up as the Sox took a 7-3 lead into the ninth inning at Kansas City. 20 minutes later the Royals scored six runs to take the game 9-7. The amazing rally set the modern record for the most runs scored in the ninth inning to win a game on opening day. Damaso Marte faced three batters, gave up three hits, two of them home runs to Mendy Lopez and Carlos Beltran, and allowed five runs to score in getting the loss. By the way that was Lopez’s only home run that season. April 5, 2010 – It was opening day and for Mark Buehrle, it was his eighth opening day start setting the franchise record and breaking the tie he had with Billy Pierce. Buehrle was brilliant in the 6-0 win over the Indians, but what everyone was talking about after the game was the play he made on a hard-hit ball off the bat of Lou Marson in the fifth inning. Both ESPN and the MLB Network called it the play of the year. Marson’s shot ricocheted off Buehrle’s leg and was hit so hard it was headed towards foul ground on the first base side of the field. Buehrle sprinted off the mound, fielded the ball with his glove and flipped it between his legs to Paul Konerko who made a barehanded catch nipping Marson by a step. It was simply an incredible play as it beat Marson to the bag by a step and a half.
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Eloy to IL, low grade hamstring strain - retroactive to 4/4
Lip Man 1 replied to raBBit's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It is the left hamstring, not the one that had surgery last season. I guess we shouldn't be surprised anymore. Like a poster wrote the same issues that have plagued this team last year are appearing again...injuries, a bad bullpen, little depth and an inability to score runs. if you believe in karma the baseball gods seem to be saying again, that until this team is sold they are going to dump on it. I was told a story from a source that part of the reason Hahn reacted and said the things he did when it was brought up to him about Eloy being injury-prone was because the Cubs basically keep bringing it up around baseball and it makes Hahn look bad. I don't know if the Cubs knew something about his body type of if they are just trying to take advantage of the situation. Like I said we shouldn't be surprised anymore but it is damn frustrating. -
We don't get these type of snowfalls very often anymore, not worth the expense and I don't have a garage to store it in.
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It's ironic that here in Southeast Idaho we are having one of the heaviest snowfalls in history for this area right now on the same day as back in 1982 Chicago got hammered with a blizzard. Just spent two hours shoveling.
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4/5/23 Giants @ White Sox 1:10 Game Time
Lip Man 1 replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
He's been looking for it for the last several days. A really slow start. -
April 4, 1982 - One of the most highly anticipated opening days in franchise history got snowed out. The Sox were set to host Boston and the organization was expecting a crowd of around 50,000 much like they got for opening day 1981. That got torpedoed when a blizzard hammered the entire Midwest cancelling games for days. 10 inches of snow were recorded at Comiskey Park! The season didn’t begin until April 11 as the Sox took a double-header from the Yankees in New York. April 4, 1983 - The same night North Carolina State upset Houston in the men’s NCAA basketball championship; the Sox opened their Western Division Championship season dropping a 5-3 game at Texas. The Sox scored three times in the top of the first but were handcuffed after that. Errors by rookies Scott Fletcher and Greg Walker were costly to pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. The Sox would drop all three games to the Rangers but rebounded to win 99 games and take the division by a record 20 games. White Sox broadcaster and analyst Jimmy Piersall would be fired by the club the next day for his acerbic studio comments concerning the team’s performance opening night. April 4, 1988 - It was a moment in the sun for Kenny Williams. On opening day, Williams belted a two run fifth inning home run off the Angels Mike Witt to help the Sox to an 8-5 win. Williams would drive in three RBI’s on the afternoon. His other hit that afternoon was a double. April 4, 1994 - The bittersweet shortened season started in Canada with a rematch of the 1993 A.L.C.S. It was Toronto winning this opening day 7-3 beating Jack McDowell, the reigning Cy Young Award winner, just as they did twice in the post season the year before. But by August 11 the Sox were rolling on all cylinders. That’s when the season came to a staggering end because of the labor impasse between the MLBPA and the owners. At the time of the shutdown, the Sox were leading the division and had the fourth best record in baseball at 67-46. April 4, 2005 - The World Championship season got off to a great start as a packed house saw Mark Buehrle and Shingo Takatsu shut out Cleveland 1-0 in a game that took less than two hours! That season the Sox would roar out of the gate at 26-9, the best 35 game start in franchise history. The only run came in the seventh inning when Paul Konerko scored on Aaron Rowand’s hard shot ground ball that was misplayed by the Indians Jhonny Peralta. Over 38 thousand fans were on hand for the game. The Indians only got two hits on the day and Sox pitchers only faced 28 batters, one over the minimum.
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Jose Abreu on time with Sox, moving forward...Scott Merkin
Lip Man 1 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Don't know the guy but the sense I get is that he just wanted a release for how bad this organization has screwed up the rebuild and angered the fan base. And that fact that enough money was raised to do this in the first place shows he was correct in that assumption. Full disclosure: I donated a few dollars myself and I'd do it again. -
Jose Abreu on time with Sox, moving forward...Scott Merkin
Lip Man 1 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The money raised also allowed the person behind the billboards to donate 1,200 to charity. 600 (if I recall) to a Chicago food bank and 600 to the charity set up in Liam's name for cancer research. Nothing wrong with that. -
I don't think you are being serious given how disastrous last year went with many of the issues caused by TLR himself.
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Given the hot start by the Twins and the Sox already 2 1/2 back and we haven't even played a week, that series next week in Minnesota is looking at little more important in my mind. Like Grifol said (and he's right) you can't win a pennant in April but you can sure lose one in it.
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I stand corrected thank you.
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I don't think fans are panicking. But... The aftertaste of last season is still strong as is the fact the rebuild hasn't gone as promised. The White Sox themselves did a lot of talking about getting to the World Series, multiple championships and Rick Hahn's famous comment "Talk to me after the parade." None of that has happened. A good start will help take some of that aftertaste away but the Sox have a very difficult April schedule and did little in the off-season to inspire confidence so if fans are apprehensive I can't blame them given the situation.
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I think it was closer to 37 thousand according to the box score.
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You are correct. real change won't come until new ownership arrives and the front office is cleaned out like John Allyn did in September 1970.
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The seven home runs the Giants hit today are one short of the record against the Sox. The Yankees hit eight on July 31, 2007 at Yankee Stadium. Jose Contreras gave up three, Charlie Haeger two and Gavin Floyd three. Only two other Sox pitchers have ever allowed five home runs in a game, Eddie Lopat in 1947 and Reynaldo Lopez in 2018.
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Why Ruiz wasn't cut a few years ago is beyond me. Hope Hahn likes what he saw today.
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4/5/23 Giants @ White Sox 1:10 Game Time
Lip Man 1 replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Well already they've scored three runs or less in four of the five games. If memory serves at the end of last year they scored three runs or less in exactly half of their games. Tough to win that way, puts a lot of stress on the pitching staff.