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Supposedly this is a minor injury and more than likely it is, but as DVS of the Sun-Times pointed out in his story tonight on this, last year when Moncada got hurt the last week of spring training, the Sox said that was "minor" as well. He was out until May.

That's just recently, if you go back to the start of his tenure (say Keppinger for example) he's wasted a lot more than that. Although to be fair Hahn doesn't make these decisions in a vacuum. Kenny's still involved and the Sox talent evaluation people make recommendations at both the major and minor league level. They need to be held accountable too.

It is an unusual contract though and the Sox have a clause in it that can space out payments. Don't know all the details, simply saying there are no guarantees, although if he is back by May/June (as many are speculating) that could end the uncertainties one way or the other: "His contract had an unusual twist, perhaps the first of its kind in baseball. The fourth year of the deal had an option year, worth 15 million but included a 15-million-dollar buyout. If the White Sox declined the option, the buyout would be paid in 10 equal installments between 2024 and 2033. The paying of money down the road, something NFL teams often do, could help with the ‘luxury tax’ threshold should the Sox be in that position where it becomes an issue." The ability to space out the payments could be a factor in the decision making process depending on what JR says the team payroll will be in 2024. Hard to say anything for sure right now, just that the option could come into play because of the way the contract is written. And that's assuming JR is still running the club in 2024.

Very good question. Although they have two or three guys who will probably be leaving (Giolito? Lynn? Hendriks?)

Yet the owner who throws nickels around like they are manhole covers, hasn't fired Hahn for his incompetence.

Surprised but very happy the Sox cut this stiff.

Why are we not surprised? LOL. ?

Well said.

Saw today when Adam Engel suffered his second injury this spring yesterday for the padres. It is a hamstring again for him . Not expected to be ready for opening day, he's only had six at-bats all spring.

March 25, 2021 – Injuries can happen at any time, but needless injuries, in spring training to boot, can take the heart right out of a club, the fanbase and completely change the fortunes of a season. On this day the White Sox announced that Eloy Jimenez, one of the best young sluggers in baseball would be lost for most of the season, because of a ruptured left pectoral tendon. He suffered the injury when getting hung up on the top of the fence trying to catch a ball hit by the A’s Sean Murphy the day before, a ball that wasn’t catchable. Sox broadcaster Steve Stone was particularly critical of Jimenez even attempting to try to catch a meaningless home run in a spring training game and putting himself at risk. Since getting called up in 2019, Jimenez had been injured multiple times when dealing with trying to play left field. His injury was more common in football and most likely happened on impact when his left arm hit the top of the fence. After an intensive rehab lasting four months, he returned to the team on July 26 but injury issues continued to dog him.

With Opening Night less than a week away and with a number of key guys away for the WBC I hope the Sox manager starting Saturday will start running out his regular season lineup and start getting these guys some work together as a unit.

Update from the person who started the project: "Also forgot we donated $1200 to charity, with $600 (and all T-shirt proceeds) going to the Greater Chicago Food Depository and $600 going to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society in Liam Hendriks honor."

It worked for J.C. Martin who started as a third baseman. Wound up having a long big league career because of it.

Just based on his salary deserved or not (probably not) he is not going to be a "bench player."

JR wants to win, but...he wants to win his way under his terms and conditions.

In Vaugh's case I just hope he can play a full season and not burn out the last few months as he's done in the past.

I wouldn't take Nightengale's word for anything regarding things like this. He's the only media guy JR talks to. You have to consider the source.

No Vaughn.

March 23, 1989 - The Sox traded Kenny Williams (who would eventually become the club’s G.M. and vice president) to Detroit for pitcher Eric King. Williams never achieved any measure of consistency in the big leagues. He played three years in Chicago and his best year was 1987. He had 11 home runs, 50 RBI’s and stole 21 bases, batting .281, King at least, had a spectacular 1990 campaign going 12-4 with a 3.25 ERA for the “Doin’ the Little Things” White Sox who’d shock baseball by compiling 94 wins in 1990.

Given the recent history I'm beginning to think there is more here than the Sox are saying.

Hendriks has been throwing bullpen sessions and Lance Lynn just said a few days ago after speaking with him he could return in May, that may play a factor in the roster decisions.

March 21, 1900 - After a meeting with the Chicago Cubs, the way was cleared for Charles Comiskey to bring his team from St. Paul, Minnesota to Chicago. They would set up shop on the South Side of the city. In fact, though, Comiskey was bringing the team to town regardless of whether the Cubs approved it or not. The meeting was set up though to try to avoid any conflicts. They would have immediate success winning the 1900 pennant going 82-53 and beating Milwaukee by four and a half games. March 21, 1931 – The White Sox defeated the New York Giants, 11-6, in the first night game ever played between American or National League teams. The contest took place in front of 2,500 fans at Buff Stadium in Houston, under 235-kilowatt bulbs held aloft by six steel towers, each 120 feet high. The game was arranged only 11 days before it was played. There were 23 total hits in the game, but the score was deadlocked 6-6 after nine innings. In the top of the 10th, Bill Cissell scored Willie Kamm with a single for the game-winning RBI. Luke Appling also clubbed a two-run double in the rally. March 21, 1997 - The Sox suffered a major blow to their hopes for a championship when star third baseman Robin Ventura destroyed his ankle and lower leg on a slide at home plate in a spring game against the Red Sox. The injury was so horrific that a woman sitting in the stands passed out when she saw the result. It was caused because his spikes caught in the wet, muddy, ground. The result was that Ventura’s foot was pointed 180 degrees opposite of the way a foot is supposed to be. The injury took place only 10 days before the season opener and the Sox were left in a state of shock. G. M. Ron Schueler announced to the media the team would be looking for a replacement, and then did nothing to fill the void staying in-house with Greg Norton and Chris Snopek. They combined for five home runs and 36 RBI’s in 105 games. Thankfully after a rigorous rehabilitation process, Robin would be back to play in 54 games that season and continue to have an outstanding Major League career after he left the Sox as a free agent.

The Athletic today had a story basically echoing your comments that even a "minor" injury given their histories and what happened to the team last year gives fans cause for concern. Eloy has made it clear publicly on numerous occasions he hates being a DH and the Sox attempt to keep him happy and engaged may have something to do with why he is playing some outfield.

Fox Sports lists his injuries. They don't specify how many of those required DL/IL stints but he went on the list three times last year for example: DATE INJURY 8/25/22 Hamstring 7/6/22 Foot 6/17/22 Hamstring 5/28/22 Quad 4/7/22 Oblique 7/1/21 Hand 6/15/21 Illness 8/29/20 Leg 7/30/19 Hamstring 6/26/19 Knee 6/16/19 Back 6/10/19 Back 6/2/19 Leg Soreness 5/5/18 Left hamstring tightness 5/4/18 Left hamstring tightness 4/21/18 Sore left hamstring

Eloy left the game in the second inning. Cramp in his right calf.