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Correct... his young son somehow got up on his roof and couldn't get down (why he was up there in the first place I don't know) Melton fell getting him down. Had a herniated disc, somehow played with it until early June 1972 then was shut down for the season. Roland Hemond picked up Ed Spiezio who did a nice job filling in but it wasn't the same of course.
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Thank You.
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March 12, 1921 - All eight members of the White Sox who reportedly conspired to throw the 1919 World Series, but were found innocent in a court of law, were banned by then commissioner Kenesaw “Mountain” Landis from ever playing in the Major Leagues again. The eight were “Shoeless” Joe Jackson, Eddie Cicotte, Claude “Lefty” Williams, Charles “Swede” Risberg, Fred McMullin, Arnold “Chick” Gandil, Oscar “Happy” Felsch and George “Buck” Weaver. Jackson was banned for life, despite hitting .375 in the series; Weaver was banned not for throwing the series, but simply for knowing of the plot and not reporting it. The only club capable of facing off against the emerging New York Yankee dynasty was thus destroyed. March 12, 1973 - Sox third baseman and former 1971 A.L. home run champ, Bill Melton, appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated. The caption read, “Chicago Comes Out Swinging. Slugger Bill Melton.” Melton would have a nice comeback season after missing most of 1972 with a herniated disc. He’d hit .277 with 20 home runs and 87 RBI’s. He’d be traded to the Angels after the 1975 campaign.
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Injury after injury and poor production given his high salary.
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Given his salary and his issues, who realistically would want him?
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Burger is making a strong case for another bat off the bench but remember Garcia is still owed a ton of money and we know how that resonates with this organization.
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March 11, 1968 - Sox rookie pitcher Cisco Carlos was part of the cover shot for Sports Illustrated. The caption read, “The Best Rookies of 1968.” Unfortunately, Carlos didn’t turn out to be one of them, either in the short term or the long one. In fact, of the five players on the cover only Johnny Bench (top row middle) and Mike Torrez (bottom left) made a name for themselves in the sport. In two and a half seasons with the club Carlos went 10-17. His best pitching performance came on September 14, 1967 at Comiskey Park, when in the middle of a pennant race, he shut out Cleveland on five hits over 10 innings winning 4-0.
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March 10, 1995 - After two stints at White Sox spring training and a full season in Birmingham, Michael Jordan announced he was giving up baseball. Part of the reason was because of his struggles with the game, but the other, larger part, as he explained to author Bob Greene, in the book, “Rebound, The Odyssey of Michael Jordan” was because he was being pressured by Sox G.M. Ron Schueler to cross the MLBPA picket line. With replacement games set to start, Jordan stated that he was told if he didn’t cross the line, he’d be banished from the main clubhouse. Jordan was furious saying that he was promised by owner Jerry Reinsdorf, he wouldn’t have to take that step. Jordan explained that under no circumstances would he ever cross a labor picket line regardless of sport, that the day would never come where he would be forced to be, not a minor league prospect, but a Major League strikebreaker. “I told them from the beginning that I didn’t want them to use me to make money in the spring training games. We had an understanding. It was never supposed to even come up. I was disgusted that the promise wasn’t going to be honored,” he told Greene. Jordan would return to the Bulls and win three more championships.
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Last Comiskey - Part II
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MLB Trade Rumors site had a show devoted just to Sox questions a few days ago. I scrolled through the transcript and when a fan asked about Giolito the response from the site was "He's as good as gone" for whatever that's worth. Here is the link to the transcript: https://live.jotcast.com/chat/white-sox-offseason-chat-15248.html
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I think they are slotted after the end of the first round and before the start of the second round.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/3/9/23632714/carlos-rodon-yankees-white-sox-giants-mlb
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DVS of the Sun-Times wrote that Cespedes hasn't played all spring because of quad soreness and that Bummer who hasn't thrown off a mound all spring is supposed to do so on Friday.
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March 9, 1927 - Popular Sox outfielder Johnny Mostil attempted suicide in a hotel room in Shreveport, Louisiana. Despite razor cuts to his wrist, neck and chest, Mostil survived and returned to the team in April although he’d only play in 13 games that season. Mostil suffered a number of injuries in his career, and had severe dental issues and neuritis in his jaw and shoulder; neuritis is an inflamed nerve condition, resulting in sharp and chronic pain. Given the severity of this suicide attempt — and the fact that Mostil plunged his hand into scalding water during his rehab, delaying his return to the White Sox — the star may have been simply trying to end significant suffering, suffering that the medicine of his time could not soothe. In 10 years with the team Mostil would hit over .300 four times with a high of .328 in 1926. Two other years he’d bat over .290. After his career he’d become a longtime White Sox scout/coach and help develop future players like All-Star and Gold Glove winning outfielder Jim Landis. March 9, 1972 – With talks at a standstill between the owners and the MLBPA over a new labor contract focusing on the pension plan, the White Sox became the first team to have their players vote to authorize a strike if things weren’t agreed upon and a new deal put in place. The vote was 31-0 in favor of it. When all was said and done the final vote of the players was 663-10 to strike if a new agreement wasn’t reached. As it turned out a new agreement wasn’t reached before the first few weeks of the season were impacted and regular season games were lost for the very first time. Those games were never made up and teams played a different number of games in the season. The White Sox that year only played 154 of them.
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I know at least once he had a serious injury/surgery to his hand/thumb which he injured sliding head first into second base in a minor league game.
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The NFL plays games on Sunday, Monday, Thursday and Saturday (in December). One of the best things about baseball is there is no time limit, unlike the other sports. There is no zero on the clock.
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March 8, 1948 – WGN, channel 9 in Chicago, announced that it would televise White Sox games for the first time during the upcoming season. Veteran radio sports broadcasters Jack Brickhouse and Harry Creighton would become the first White Sox TV announcers in history. The first game they ever showed was an exhibition game against the Cubs from Wrigley Field on April 16 in freezing cold weather! The Sox would beat the Cubs 4-1. WGN carried White Sox televised games from 1948-1967, 1981 and 1990 through 2019.
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I always find it interesting that some folks are upset over how long a baseball game goes but when NFL games regularly go 3:20, 3:30 or longer no one says a word about it.
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3/7 Sox vs Brewers, 2:05PM CT, NBCSC
Lip Man 1 replied to DoUEvenShift's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Correct, the second go-round by Eaton. -
If what you say comes to pass then the Sox need to be sellers at the deadline.
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3/7 Sox vs Brewers, 2:05PM CT, NBCSC
Lip Man 1 replied to DoUEvenShift's topic in 2023 Season in Review
I'm guessing right now it has to be Colas which is not a bad thing. If he can stabilize the gaping hole in right field that would be a huge addition. The guy has got to be better than Adam Eaton and Nomar Mazara right? -
Dirty: You have the option to place all my comments on ignore if you wish. It won't bother me in the slightest. Would love to be all sunshine and roses about the Sox but the numbers don't lie do they? Just have a winning season this year...at least that's something positive.
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There is some truth to your comment but given the dysfunction as well apparently in the Sox training, medical and conditioning staffs, it appears to be even more critical to this team that they actually stay on the field. Keep in mind the Sox have gone through three head trainers in the past few years, Herm, the guy who is suing for discrimination (sorry I can't remember his name right now) and James Kruk. They have gone through strength and conditioning coaches like Alan Thomas and Dale Torborg and the Senior Medical Advisor, Mike Reinold, was fired by the Red Sox for giving the players Toradol which was illegal. They have had their problems. They have got to figure out a way to keep the key players in this rebuild on the field and not on the IR list.
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The Sox season will live or die on health. They simply don't have a lot of depth to withstand the rash of injuries that have hit this franchise at all levels since around 2018.
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Looks like you are one of those fans who can't fathom reality. That's not my doing nor my concern. In sports the numbers don't lie, like TLR told me, at the end of the day it's all about if you win or lose. That being said the White Sox are part of my collective memory for as far back as I can recall. I became a fan around 1960 when I was five. This will be my 63rd season. I won't turn my back on them but I will keep calling out their stupidity and dysfunction (which the record clearly shows) and hope to outlive current ownership and see a better situation. If that bothers you, again, that is not my concern.