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You know I honestly think now they have a chance to lose the last 15 in a row to close the season. Then next year they have to open at Houston and play 10 of the first 14 on the road (if memory serves). You could be looking at a historic losing streak!!!!! One other note about tonight, the Sox have the most expensive bullpen in MLB history, yet every guy who came out of the pen tonight had an ERA of at LEAST 4.6. That's some "brilliant" G.M. the Sox have isn't it? if Hahn is retained (I'd bet money he is) the first question he should be asked by the media is, "Rick, with respect, based on your 10 year track record why should any Sox fan trust your judgement moving forward?" I'd love to hear him answer that one.

Says what a lot of Sox fans have been posting: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2022/9/28/23377063/biggest-disappointments-2022-white-sox-in-own-shameful-category-jerry-reinsdorf-tony-la-russa

Valid points. I'm simply saying that MLB is a 10-12 billion dollar a year business now with money pouring in from domestic and international sources. The Sox in my opinion could pay out whatever they wish without financial harm to any of the owners.

Regarding your last sentence, there's no way to know of course since we can't see the books and has been brought out in past labor situations the owners have "cooked" the books, but I have a hard time thinking the White Sox are overstretched at any point financially. In my opinion and based on some conversations I've had with people who know some of the investors, the financial restraints are self-imposed.

And remember a famous Kenny quote, (paraphrasing) 'When JR wants to know something he calls me first, not Rick.'

Many feel he started to lose the club after the Mercedes situation in Minnesota. And the record shows that after the All-Star break in 2021 the Sox were just a .500 club so I don't know how much "success" you can give TLR that year.

It's been going on for years in different areas, won't change now I'm guessing.

I think it more likely TLR's influence has caused the issues not something with Jose. If anything JR would sooner cut off his left arm then let him go and that will probably result in another contract that will bite the Sox on the rear end.

"Luck is the residue of design" - Branch Rickey. You are right though the baseball side of the operation at all levels is inept, dysfunctional and incompetent.

Some of what DVS wrote tonight in the game recap at the Sun-Times: The dark space below the .500 mark is no place to be. Not for a team in its championship window. Not for an organization that six years ago admitted to being ‘‘mired in mediocrity’’ and launched a rebuild that left its fans waiting through seasons of 67-95, 62-100 and 72-89 in 2017-19 before finally reaching an American League wild-card series in 2020. With a punchless 4-0 loss Tuesday to the Twins, the free-falling White Sox’ losing streak hit seven games. The Sox are plunging toward a totally unexpected losing season after two on the right side of .500. The latest loss dropped them to 76-78 and let the third-place Twins (75-79) creep to within one game of them for second. It could be the eighth losing season in the last 10 for a franchise that has made it to only three postseasons (2008, 2020 and 2021) since the 2005 World Series. They won once in each of those series to go with eight losses, falling well short of the parades general manager Rick Hahn talked about during the planning stages of the rebuild."

The Jamie Navarro and John Danks deals had to have some impact on JR's thinking but you are right, JR will not authorize the record breaking nine figure deal because of what may happen. Sox are one of only four teams never to have given one, the others are Pittsburgh, Oakland and Kansas City...that's some company eh?

The garbage rebuilding Cubs now have 68 wins the "supposed" World Series contending White Sox have 76. Six straight games scoring three runs or less, now up to 77 in 154 games, that's 50% This is beyond embarrassing, these guys gave up last Wednesday night. Just disgusting.

I read that today and like I posted on twitter I'll be curious if Scott lays any blame at the feet of his friend Rick Hahn. Both went to Michigan and I was told that Hahn likes him and has provided info to him that he hasn't shared with other media members. If Scott thinks the Sox have the most talent when Hahn's off season acquisitions were brutal, when his trade deadline acquisition blew up in his face again and when this "talent" can't stay healthy for seemingly one week, he was watching a different team than I was.

His take on what went wrong. Oddly he seems to place the blame totally on the players but not anyone else at least in print (I listened to his rant a few days ago which was different in placing blame): https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/2022/9/27/23375653/pinpointing-what-went-wrong-in-a-lost-chicago-white-sox-season-cleveland-guardians-central

Nothing will happen until the end of the season when JR, Kenny, Hahn and maybe TLR meet to discuss the situation.

Think about this, not only will the Sox not make the playoffs, they probably won't even have a winning season now with all these guys out for the rest of the year. You talk about embarrassing.

I totally agree with your last statement. Regarding this part: "More importantly, Jerry is blatantly telling his loyal die-hard fanbase, he doesn't give a s%*# and we can all go f*** ourselves if we don't like it." That's exactly what he's doing and basically you have little choice in the matter if you are a baseball fan who is loyal to the White Sox. He's got a sweet setup that's for sure.

Gonzo is the swing man covering baseball at the Sun-Times now, also did some work for the Daily herald. With the Sun-Times he covers both the Sox and Cubs usually on the weekends.

If the rumors about KW having already told JR he's done after 23 the threat you advocate is meaningless. And JR would never issue that type of ultimatum to him.

As long as he makes money that is true.

JR is a businessman first and foremost.

JR has it written into his contract that he has complete authority on the day to day operations of the team. He also has the freedom to what he wishes with the club from a sell standpoint. The minority investors literally have absolutely zero say in things, JR has the power. The only way he can be removed from his position even if all the other minority investors turned against him is if he did something illegal such as embezzling funds. It has been this way even since he put the ownership group together in the winter of 1981.

Would fans tolerate yet another rebuild? https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2022/9/26/23373394/white-sox-disappointing-season-tony-la-russa-jerry-reinsdorf-crossroad

Call me crazy but I expected effort, that's what being a very highly paid professional means doesn't it?

Just wondering where in your bio of her does it show where she has any interest of buying the club? Like I wrote I seriously doubt there is any interest among the minority owners of the team. Your thoughts on her are simply speculation at this point. The point I made was the minority owners have been urging JR to sell since the mid 00's, yet he refuses because of the tax hit that he would take (about 200 million dollars) as opposed to if his family/estate sells the club after he is gone.