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QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Nov 6, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) I think a Trout for elite pitching swap makes a lot of sense for both teams. Not sure if they would have reservations about dealing a fan favorite. If we could add an Encarnacion or Cespedes and a catcher in a trade for Lawrie we could start Saladino at 2B, LF/DH Melky and have all the lineup holes covered. That would be a top 2-3 offense on paper playing in the USCF bandbox for half the season. Except one of the last things Robin did was announced that Saladino has a herniated disc in his lower back that did not respond as well as they hoped to treatment. Right now having no additional info I don't even know if he can play in 2017. Mark

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 5, 2016 -> 10:19 PM) What is SI smoking? Why would Cespedes go to Philly of all places? The story said "The dark-horse Phillies could land a center piece for their rebuild and level a devastating shot at their NL East rival." Mark

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 5, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) The Cubs song is ridiculously bad. But that Sox song is way worse if it's possible. Geez, what's with Chicago teams. Get rid of that song, White Sox. I disagree. Love the song, a reminder of when the Sox didn't play second fiddle to anyone, even in their own city and were very, very good on the field. Mark

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 09:53 PM) Is this song real? Where did you find this? It's real, by a Polka group called Captain Stubby and the Buccaneers. It was released in 1959. I always enjoyed the song myself. Mark

Sports Illustrated this week had their list of the Top 10 free agents this season: Here is the order: 1. Cespedes (Best fit according to SI: Phillies) 2. Chapman (Nationals) 3. Encarnation (Red Sox) 4. Jansen (Dodgers) 5. Turner (Dodgers) 6. Trumbo (Blue Jays) 7. Desmond (Orioles) 8. Ramos (Angels) 9. Fowler (Nationals) 10. Reddick (Astros) Mark

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) BTW, how old is he? 80 Mark

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) LOL. JR must have been the mastermind of that. Some quick research shows the teams would split roughly 30% of the gate. Of course cubs would get 100% of concessions. My ticket prices of $150 I think were way low, so the Cubs must have made out quite nicely. One of the coaches here at Idaho State flew to Chicago over the weekend and paid $800 dollars for a fourth row seat in the left field bleachers for Sunday. She also grabbed a BP home run. $800 dollars! Mark

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) Do you not understand the concept of depth? I often wonder. JB Shuck sucks, but it never hurts to have guys with MLB experience in the minors. There is depth and there is wasted space. Big difference in my opinion between the two. The issue for me in keeping these stiffs around is that history shows sooner or later they'll be called back up to the big leagues with the Sox and stink up the joint yet again. Just look at how many times guys like him and Leury Garcia is another one, who keep getting called back up. Time to cut the cord...permanently. I'd sooner take my chances on a kid who may turn out to be something then a recycled bum who obviously can't do the job. Just my opinion. Mark

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) Shuck off the 40-man. Outrighted to Charlotte. http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/roster/transactions Guess that'll mean he's back on the big league roster sooner or later. That's how these things work. Guys who should be outright waived keep hanging around. Mark

Nice thought but not happening. Not yesterday, not today, not tomorrow. As long as JR is around, Kenny is his "guy." Mark

He never could throw strikes consistently. No big loss, just minor league filler at best. Mark

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) Yea it might weigh them down as far as capping future payrolls but I have to think given the absolute bonanza this will be for the Cub's overall brand the additional revenue streams will largely offset or overcome that. Money will be the least of their worries with the additional advertising revenue and again the elephant in the room, the soon to be Cubs TV Network. Mark

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 11:15 PM) The heirs would effectively pay capital gains and an estate tax either way I think. From what I read it is much more if the original owner sells as opposed to passing away. Could have mis read it though. Mark

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 11:01 PM) Sell Jerry so Sox fans can have some real hope! That's everyone's hope but it's not happening and part of the reason as I saw elsewhere is capital gains taxes unless the original owner passed away. Mark

Folks: Get ready for a very long, cold, never ending winter. Mark

QUOTE (Doc Edwards Shot @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 12:57 PM) Aren't the Cubs about as rich as the Dodgers/Yankees/Red Sox? Seems to me they could afford to keep a lot of their current players even when they come knocking for new contracts. Just wait till they start their TV network, that figures to bring in a lot of money. Mark

Didn't ever realize this guy was still around. It wouldn't hurt I guess since he hasn't succeeded at anything else in the organization. Mark

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Nov 1, 2016 -> 10:39 PM) I hope we're not just waiting for JR to hand over controlling interest/die before these changes come.......but I really wonder if that's what it would take if come 2017 nothing changes. If you do not rebuild with a GM acknowledging their mediocrity, a subpar team in a terrible FA market, with no immediate help available in the minors, AND several appealing SP trading chips to rebuild from, then they will never rebuild under JR. Things change of course, maybe a Cub World Series championship will totally change the equation. We'll see. But I can only say that the last I had heard from two sources (and posted that on this site) JR does not want to go through a rebuild. Since he's the owner what he wants, he gets. I don't think Rick Hahn has much influence if any with JR...the one person who I think could cause JR to give serious thought to a radical change is Kenny Williams. Kenny is JR's "Rasputen" the two are almost like brothers...if Kenny said "it's time" JR might just might listen. The problem with that scenario is of course Kenny has never admitted failure in his life, it's the ego and football mentally, we've got to "go for it" each and every season. Short term thinking...nothing long term. Again we'll just have to wait and see. Mark

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Nov 1, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) If anything, I'd hope any potential Cubs World Series tears apart that last remaining doubt of Sox management about rebuilding. I would agree with your thought process if I didn't have 35 years history contradicting it. The Sox have never felt they are in competition with the Cubs, have stated it publicly many time. JR (and for right or wrong you have to admire the strength of his convictions) has never been influenced by the Cubs, Sox fans, the media, agents...never has and never will be. Significant and needed change will come eventually, it has to since time marches on and we are all human. Mark

If the Cubs win it tomorrow night their already insufferable fan base will become even more so (if that is indeed even possible), the media which is already pro-Cubs have even more incentive (since fairness is no longer a part of the equation) to basically ignore the Sox save for the bare minimum of coverage. The White Sox and Sox fans will be having this shoved in their faces for the next 100 years. 2005 will basically no longer exist save for the Sox fans who remain (it was already forgotten about by the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, ESPN and CBS just last week...) Am I exaggerating? Probably....but here's the thing...I'm not exaggerating by much. I'm glad I don't live in Chicago but even here in Idaho it is amazing how many Cub fans there are. I've been hearing and putting up with garbage for a month. When I ask them (they are from Utah / Idaho / Texas / Wisconsin) how they became Cub fans, I get the same answer...SUPERSTATION WGN. Mark

Can't really argue with what the author has written. Mark

Sigh..... Mark

October 28, 2005 – It was the largest turnout for a championship celebration in Chicago sports history as nearly two million people lined the parade route in the downtown area / South Side to honor the World Series champions. White Sox players and management addressed the crowd and Paul Konerko presented the last out / game ball to owner Jerry Reinsdorf. We've got some audio from the celebration with comments by Paul Konerko, Jerry Reinsdorf, Ozzie Guillen and Hawk Harrelson http://www.chicagonow.com/soxnet/2016/10/t...ox-on-parade-2/ And with that we conclude our This Day in White Sox History thread. I hope everyone enjoyed it and that it brought back some good memories. I also want to thank Dan Shapiro for his help without which this thread simply couldn't have been done. Mark

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) Assuming Ramos doesn't take a 1-year pillow deal with the Nats, I'd like to try to sign him to one. Even though he's not going to be able to play until May / June? Mark

QUOTE (drowninginflame @ Oct 28, 2016 -> 04:35 PM) Hey folks, Long time lurker. This is the place I go to get all of my White Sox gossip and opinions, so keep up the awesome work. Anyhow, I'm a writer and I just wrote an essay about being a White Sox fan during this whole Cubsmania ordeal. I originally pitched to Sports Mockery but have yet to hear back, despite them posting a plenty of Cubs-related pieces. I reached out to Deadspin and am waiting on them, too. But, I'd love to get the piece some traction on a White Sox blog, Facebook page, etc. If you know of any you enjoy, or look to as a source of truth, or run one - please let me know. Thanks! Try Sox Net that's the one I write for. You need to contact Q, who is basically the "editor" of it. I'd give you his e-mail address but I don't know if that is allowed. If one of the mod's can let me know on this I'd appreciate it. If they say it is OK, I'll post it for you. Mark