Lip Man 1

Apparently on the Mets broadcast tonight the announcers said that no team has ever had 69 losses before the All-Star break. The All-Star Game as many know started in July 1933 at Comiskey Park. Record setting! ?

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The 1962 Mets were 23-59 before the first of the two All-Star games played that season. The first one was on July 10 at Washington. So it looks like the Sox do indeed hold the record!

Thank you.

Again...whom are these "baseball experts" that are giving you the advice of what the Sox should be doing.

I wonder what the MLB record is for the most losses by a team at the All-Star break?

Again with respect I'd like to know who these "baseball experts" are so I can determine if they really know what they are supposedly talking about.

With respect we understand your point of view, now it is time to accept the reality of things. If he isn't traded in the next two weeks it will be this off season because an extension will not be forthcoming.

The record shows it has been 18 times they took a lead into the 7th inning or later...and lost the game. Only one time this season have they trailed in the 7th inning or later...and won.

From the MLB site today: Q: What are some actually realistic trades the Orioles could make? We talk a lot about how they could move some prospects, but not who specifically, and for whom specifically, in a realistic sense. Feinsand: Samuel Basallo, Coby Mayo and Heston Kjerstad are the names I hear most when talking to people around the league. Two of them would likely have to be included in a Garrett Crochet deal, but the beauty of having a deep farm system is that you can realistically get involved in any trade scenario out there. Giving up young players is never easy, but to get talent, you have to give up talent. Considering where the Orioles are in their process right now, they're going to have to make some moves to supplement their young core. The Corbin Burnes trade reminded me of the Cubs adding Jon Lester a decade ago. If I'm a Baltimore fan, I'm ecstatic about what the next 5-7 years hold for this club.

https://soxmachine.com/2024/07/white-sox-mock-draft-roundup-jac-caglianones-the-one-at-no-5/

Personally I just hope this doesn't kick start the Cubs who were D.O.A. a week ago.

It's also called a serious lack of offense and an atrocious bullpen.

The way they pitched in 2020 I thought Foster and Heuer were really going to be something, maybe the next tandem like the Sox had in the early 70's with Forster and Gossage.

Why? Both are done, D.O.A. basically as productive players. Sox need to play the kids not more retreads.

Not as long as JR is the owner unless they get real lucky.

July 11, 2006 - Coming off a season where the White Sox won their first World Series championship in 88 years, seven players and manager Ozzie Guillen made the trip to Pittsburgh for the All-Star Game. The seven players were tied for the second most in team history equaling the number of Sox representatives in 1960. The seven players were; Mark Buehrle (P), Jose Contreras (P), Jermaine Dye (OF), Bobby Jenks (P), Paul Konerko (1B), Jim Thome (INF/PH) and A.J. Pierzynski (C). None of the Sox players though were in the starting lineup. The A.L. won the game in dramatic fashion 3-2.

That's a bold statement, just can't ever see that happening.

Baseball attendance seems to be pretty good though overall. And given the way the free agent market played out over the last few years I can definitely see some collusion in play. How many times have the owners been fined for this before? I can absolutely see this as an issue in 2026 when the labor deal is up. Some folks are already saying that season will be disrupted.

This would be contrary of course to what Nightengale wrote just last Sunday, that the Sox were set on trading Crochet after not getting much response/positive vibes from a contract extension proposal.

He never does. For a sharp businessman (which he is) he doesn't grasp the concept of getting good players = good teams = more ticket sales, more fan attendance, more parking money, more concession money, more souvenir money, more advertising opportunities. Harper paid for his contract immediately as the Phillies I read sold over a million tickets after he signed. Remember JR said finishing second, third or fourth doesn't mean you had a bad season! ?

It may have happened before but this is the only other time I know of that a Sox pitcher threw an immaculate inning: August 22, 1923 - In a game at Comiskey Park, Sox pitcher Hollis “Sloppy” Thurston struck out the side on only nine pitches versus the Philadelphia Athletics. It came in the 12th inning. He retired the A’s Frank “Beauty” McGowan, Clarence “Chick” Galloway and Sam Hale. Thurston however, who came on in relief starting in the 11th inning, got the loss in the game, 3-2 which went 13 innings. Striking out three hitters on only nine pitches is called an “Immaculate Inning.”

My god...they actually beat the Twins!

Greg: They had as much talent or more after the first rebuild than anyone else in the division. It led to a pair of first round playoff losses. The Sox under JR simply don't have everything that is needed to consistently win from top level front office types to a medical training and conditioning staff that can actually keep players healthy to scouts and minor league developmental people. I'm sorry you CAN NOT overcome JR's cheapness and disdain for his own fan base. Something happened to this franchise starting in 2007 and it has gotten consistently worse over time.

Greg: I respect your Sox fandome but if you can't see or understand the dilemma this franchise is in because of ownership there's nothing I or others can tell you. I'd LOVE for the Sox to at least have a winning season which is something they regularly did between 1981-2006 under JR, 99 Sox fans out of 100 would love this. But that's not where this franchise is today. For a final time I'll try to make you understand. KEEPING FEDDE, KEEPING CROCHET WON'T DO SQUAT because the Sox are going to suck for the next few years at least. Why? Because ownership refuses to put the talent around them needed to win as others have expressed accurately and in what specific areas. The ONLY way, under current ownership the franchise has any hope of winning is getting literally as many talented kids as possible through trades and the draft and hope they can produce, come up to the big club and win games. That's it Greg, that the only possible way and frankly even that is a long shot. "Hope" generally is not a recipe for success. Feel free to continue thinking as you will but it is akin to tilting at windmills. Having two good pitchers, maybe a good hitter or two may win you 65 games. And I'd be curious to know who this "baseball expert" is? Care to share their name?