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Frank lasted as long as he did because JR had a different mindset back then. I get your viewpoint but the Sox are between a rock and a hard place with no way out until new ownership arrives. JR is dead-set in his ways and his thoughts on how things should be done and at age 88 he probably isn't changing his philosophy.

Flush watch is on!

Even a club as bad as the White Sox can't lose them all.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/06/07/white-sox-pedro-grifol-tony-la-russa-jerry-reinsdorf-ken-rosenthal

That's been the Sox history, they have good teams, like in the 50's and from 63-65, but no expanded playoffs.

As long as you have the current owner around the answer is yes.

I think it is his dad.

Very true. Dombrowski was hired as an intern and Roland Hemond quickly saw his potential. He moved up in the front office. When Hawk took over, given that Dave was Roland's protegee, he fired him. I'm guessing Hawk just wanted his own people in all positions. This is from the chapter I wrote on Hawk's tenure for Dr. Fletcher's next White Sox book: "Hemond protegee Dave Dombrowski, who was an administrative assistant, was let go because of philosophical differences. (Dombrowski would go on to a stellar front office career with Montreal, Florida, Detroit, Boston and Philadelphia making the World Series five times, winning twice)."

As I wrote I don't see how it is possible to turn things around in one season.

I was thinking about this yesterday. In 1970 the Sox lost 106 games, the very next year they went 79-83, one of the biggest turnarounds from one season to the next in baseball history. Both Roland Hemond and Chuck Tanner told me the basic philosophy was, 'we'll trade a good player we have (Aparicio, Berry) for two players you have.' The Sox were getting back solid major league players (Andrews, Alvarado, Kelly, Reichardt, Johnstone, Egan, Bradley). Like I was told they weren't superstars but they were solid players that gave the Sox depth and experience. But times have changed, would Seattle give the Sox say three of the guys on their big league roster for Robert? Would the Padres give the Sox two of the guys on their big league roster for Crochet? I don't see how that would be possible. I just don't see how the Sox could turn things around so dramatically in a single season like you do.

You wonder if starting Brandon McCarthy to the rotation to take some of the load off the regular starters would have made a difference. I remember reading how it was suggested but I don't think Ozzie was for it.

He said in the past that he doesn't believe in paying for "potential." and it shows.

“It was harder as a White Sox player last year. It was not a fun experience to be around. It was not a great situation to be a part of.”--Liam Hendriks speaking to DVS of the Sun-Times tonight.

According to sources familiar with the vibe and conversations going on among them, players themselves were speculating about Grifol’s status even before the Orioles. They’ve also wondered about some of Grifol’s lineup choices, a lack of continuity in them and the need for so many meetings called in the first two months. And while, as one player put it, Grifol is “very respected as a good man,” that he didn’t wear a major league uniform as a player is something that will be talked about, especially after a loss to a dominant pitcher. https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/06/06/misgivings-or-not-in-white-sox-clubhouse-players-support-for-grifol-must-be-at-an-all-time-high

Jerry Reinsdorf was a “source of intrigue” and in the future could become a “source of controversy.” –From a story by reporter Linda Kay, Chicago Tribune January 30, 1981.

The "sense" is that this entire operation is going to suck for the next 3-5 years. Assuming JR is still around he won't pay those guys the market rate so you have no choice but to deal them. That's the reality under JR.

14 runs allowed and 14 straight losses. Symmetry don't ya think? Don't stop now boys! Go for 20!!!

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports-media/2024/06/06/chicago-sports-network-white-sox-bulls-blackhawks-jerry-reinsdorf-nbc-sports-chicago-stadium

Owners that don't think they know it all when it comes to baseball. They have hired some good front office types (especially Cleveland) as well.

Never said I could do a better job, simply passing along what I see on the web sites for your edification and enjoyment. And given I've been in the sports media business since 1978 and have worked on TV for 14 years and been doing radio play by play for decades...yea what goes on in the broadcasting booth is of interest to me. And speaking of which, did you read the Hawks TV news today?????????????????????

AND wasting a LOT of JR's "precious" money (with at least till now, no blow-back)

https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/john-schriffen-white-sox-go-cubs-go.html

Was told last week by a mainstream media member that JR is still showing up for home games. Hope he is enjoying the show.

Can we trade for a new owner instead? Inquiring minds want to know.