Lip Man 1

The ghosts of Al Lopez or Chuck Tanner.

Exactly correct.

Nicky Lopez, .176 Robbie Grossman, .175 Eloy Jiménez, .167 Gavin Sheets, .255 Andrew Benintendi, .158 Kevin Pillar, .167 Lenyn Sosa, .132 Braden Shewmake, .143 Martín Maldonado, .053.

He had a bad screw up in the field today during that run down as well.

Because of how the Sox are categorized by MLB is the reason for the draft position situation.

MLB considers the White Sox a "major market" team....unfortunately the Sox owner doesn't think that way.

You just got your wish: “We’re 20 games in, our record sucks,” Pedro Grifol said. https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/04/21/runs-defense-pitching-all-lacking-in-latest-white-sox-loss

The MLBPA would immediately file a grievance and if they won the Sox would have to pay him. Plus the negative blowback among the players around the league could cause ramifications in the future trying to acquire talent.

Hiring an experienced manager with a winning background costs money and JR has gone on record as saying he doesn't think a field manager or head coach matters that much to a team's performance.

Depending on how far back you want to go: Paul Richards (Orioles; I think he won Manager of the Year) Chuck Tanner (Pirates; where he won a World Series / Braves) Bob Lemon (Yankees; where he won a World Series) Tony La Russa (A's; where he won a World Series / Cardinals; where he won a World Series) Jim Fregosi (Phillies; where he went to the World Series / Blue Jays) Jeff Torborg (Mets / Expos / Marlins; he wasn't fired but was forced out by Ron Schueler) Jerry Manuel (Mets) Ozzie Guillen (Marlins)

So much for that "momentum" from yesterday's ninth inning. Four hits today. LOL.

Most of these guys are in their mid-30's and have already made a lot of money they aren't playing for their careers in my opinion because they know their days are numbered anyway. When you are 33-34-35 how much of a career do you have left??? When you are 3-17, human nature kicks in, it may be unconscious but it's there.

And Pedro weighs in..... “We just strung some good at-bats together, it’s going to happen at some point." Maybe when they are 10-45??? ?

I admire your definition of what a win is.

"We have the right mindset here. The right players, the right guys doing everything they can to battle out of it. But we’ve had some tough breaks." -- Dominic Leone ? "Luck is the residue of design" - Branch Rickey

Hey they scored five runs! They have now set the franchise record for the worst 20 game start in history 3-17, breaking the old mark of 4-16 set in 1948. Don't stop now boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they already know the season is toast and are just going through the motions. They'll pick up a few weeks before the trade deadline in the hopes of leaving the Titanic.

https://www.southsidesox.com/2024/4/20/24134568/a-game-of-groans-chicago-white-sox-historically-bad-because-of-owner-jerry-reinsdorf

Option #3 - New ownership which will happen at some point in time. That is inevitable. It will open the possibility of having a competent front office brought in and result in positive changes on the field.

Memorial Day weekend

Seven times shut out in the first 19 games. Incredible. 62 Mets here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No the idea they needed to tank/rebuild was completely valid because with ownership and the front office they weren't winning s%*# with five good players and the rest AAAA fodder. Bringing in a bunch of young talent at least changed the dynamic and offered some possibility of better days (and they did win a division let's not forget). The issue wasn't the idea... it was the owner and the front office who refused to go the distance like the Astros and Cubs did.

Wound up with four home runs that inning.

Maybe because he's an accident waiting to happen in the outfield?

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