Lip Man 1

Eventually our time will come. It has to because of the laws of the universe and nature related to humanity.

It has been shown in numerous studies and detailed accounts from economists, that this doesn't happen in reality. People are getting wise to this.

December 7, 1984 - Another small move but it was important. The Sox sent Vance Law to Montreal for relief pitcher “Bullet” Bob James. James would come of age in 1985 with 32 saves, eight wins and a 2.13 ERA. He’d remain with the team through 1987 but was never the same after a knee injury in Baltimore in July 1985. December 7, 2005 - Frank Thomas, probably the best hitter in team history became a free agent after the Sox declined to pick up his 10-million-dollar option. Sox G.M. Kenny Williams had no choice in the matter...Thomas was coming off back-to-back injury plagued seasons. At his age and weight and with the addition of slugger Jim Thome and the resigning of first baseman Paul Konerko, there was no longer a place for him in the lineup. Thomas would eventually sign an incentive laden deal with the A’s in late January and continue his Hall of Fame career. December 7, 2020 – He was credited by some, including Sox G.M. Roland Hemond, as being the man who saved the franchise. Dick Allen, the 1972 American League M.V.P. died at the age of 78. Allen was acquired in a trade with the Dodgers by Hemond and manager Chuck Tanner, from the Dodgers at the 1971 winter meetings. His impact was immediate as he played the 1972 season at a near Triple Crown pace leading the league in home runs and RBI’s and finishing third in batting average. He was named the M.V.P. that November. In three years with the Sox Allen led the league in home runs twice and was named to the All-Star team three seasons. His exciting play kept fans attending games at Comiskey Park and helped keep the team financially solvent. Twice Allen has missed induction into the Hall of Fame by one vote. In one of his last interviews he said if ever he was elected, he wanted to go in wearing a White Sox hat on his plaque.

https://soxmachine.com/2023/12/jerry-reinsdorf-meets-with-nashville-mayor-who-doesnt-seem-likely-to-help-him/

Not happening. https://soxmachine.com/2023/12/jerry-reinsdorf-meets-with-nashville-mayor-who-doesnt-seem-likely-to-help-him/

Exactly correct.

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2023-winter-meetings-summary

You are correct with the capital gains tax hit and that doesn't even count the Illinois state tax hit.

https://soxmachine.com/2023/12/white-sox-select-shane-drohan-in-rule-5-draft/

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/12/6/23990963/white-sox-chairman-jerry-reinsdorf-meets-with-nashville-mayor "Most people in the baseball industry don’t see major league baseball approving a move by the Sox to Nashville, which wants an expansion team." "Mayor O’Connell has stood against private funding for a hypothetical major league baseball stadium."

But for many years in his stadium deal, I don't know if this still the case, the state of Illinois actually PAID the Sox if the attendance fell below a certain level. Why the state would agree to this is beyond comprehension and it basically pays ownership not to try to win. So why would you leave an area with this type of deal, you think you'd get that in Nashville?

December 6, 1959 - In an effort to try to repeat as American League champs Bill Veeck and Hank Greenberg decided to make a series of moves to bring in hitters at the expense of some of the top young players in the Sox system. Veeck originally tried to get young stars like future Sox coach Orlando Cepeda from the Giants and Bill White from the Cardinals but was turned down. So, he went in the only direction he felt he could. The first deal brought the Sox back outfielder “Minnie” Minoso at the cost of future All-Star, power hitting first baseman Norm Cash and future All-Star, power hitting catcher John “Honey” Romano. Cleveland also got John “Bubba” Phillips. Sox manager Al Lopez was quoted after the controversial deal as saying, “Some of us, like me, are not worried about next year because we might not be around then.” Cash and Romano alone would combine for 506 home runs and six All-Star appearances in their careers. Minoso though would have an excellent season in 1960, hitting .311 with 20 home runs and 105 RBI’s to go along with 17 stolen bases and make the All-Star team. December 6, 1984 – It was one of the most brilliant and gutsiest deals even completed by G.M. Roland Hemond. It was a deal that paid dividends immediately and 20 years down the line. Hemond sent former Cy Young Award winner LaMarr Hoyt to the Padres in a package deal that netted the Sox a 20-year-old shortstop named Ozzie Guillen. The Sox also got valuable utility player Luis Salazar and two pitchers, Tim Lollar and Bill Long. Guillen immediately went on to fill a gaping hole in the infield and was named Rookie of the Year. He’d win a Gold Glove and become a three-time All-Star before coming back as manager in 2004. He’d then win the World Series in 2005 and make the playoffs again in 2008. Hoyt would be out of baseball by 1987 after battling weight and drug addiction issues. December 6, 2016 – It was one of the biggest winter meeting trades in memory as the White Sox sent Chris Sale, one of the top pitchers in the game to the Red Sox for a number of prospects. The deal included the number one ranked minor league player in the game, Yoan Moncada. Sale was brilliant in his six plus years with the team winning 74 games with an ERA of three. He made the All-Star team five times, pitching five innings and winning the 2013 contest. He set White Sox records for most strike outs in a season with 274 and had four consecutive years with over 200. After four straight losing seasons, the franchise decided it was time to rebuild and Sale was in demand so the painful decision was made to trade him and hope for a better future.

If memory serves in 2001 he had something like 22 home runs.

I don't know of any Sox fan openly hoping for his death, if for no other reason because every one of us is going to wind up in that position someday. However I do think all Sox fans will feel grateful that now a new situation/ownership is going to come into play and that it may work much better than before.

Because Gio and the organization disagreed on salary this past year, the Sox took him to arbitration over 50,000, pocket change and it left hard feelings. Plus on the other side, Gio was the MLBPA union rep and those never sit well with JR who still thinks he can break the players union and get a salary cap. I'd like to get him back but I don't think it will happen.

Yes.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/12/5/23989614/call-it-what-you-may-it-sure-looks-like-a-white-sox-rebuild The White Sox won’t call it a rebuild, but there’s no getting around the truth. They are rebuilding. Retooling, reshaping, reconfiguring, re-anything is preferred to rebuilding, which spells not trying to contend, even in a weak division. New general manager Chris Getz and his boss, chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, are looking at a minimum of two years before they can begin to expect to compete, even in the soft American League Central.

From MLB.com: The Angels and Cubs have been considered the other finalists to sign Ohtani, though USA Today's Bob Nightengale heard from one high-ranking official on Tuesday who said Chicago had balked at Ohtani's price tag. The Cubs "appear to now be out of the bidding," Nightengale writes. However, MLB Network insider Jon Heyman heard differently, reporting that the Cubs have "not been informed that they're out on Ohtani." Heyman followed that up by saying it doesn’t mean that the report is untrue, but the Cubs haven’t heard that they're out on Ohtani.

I'm guessing the market is waiting for some other guys to sign and Getz is playing teams off against each other which is a smart thing to do.

They had the 4th worst record so dropping a spot isn't a big deal. In the end it won't matter much anyway. Here's who MLB.com has ranked as the #5 selection just FYI: 5. Jac Caglianone, 1B/LHP, Florida Mayo: “Two-way player at Florida. He’s really interesting even if we are not sure what he is. Most people like him as a hitter. There are holes on each side. He has a ton of power, but tends to chase a little. Big, huge lefty. On the mound, he’s up in the upper 90s and misses a lot of bats. But, some command issues. We’ll see what he is. 6-foot-5, 290-pounds. He’s a lot of fun. I think it’s great for college baseball to have a legitimate two-way guy at that level, at the very least.” Yep...another first baseman LOL ?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/12/5/23989525/white-sox-sign-free-agent-pitcher-erick-fedde

Billy Pierce, Jeff Torborg and Roland Hemond immediately come to mind.

That is a definite possibility

You have that absolutely correct sir.

The banner in right field said it all about him: "Washington slept here..."