Lip Man 1

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/09/23/sox-truly-hideous-season-offers-opportunity-witness-history-making-sizemore-grifol-telander

Maz Stassi says "hello...remember me." That would be SO White Sox.

Until the Sox get new ownership they'll do neither of your options correctly.

https://awfulannouncing.com/twitter/white-sox-trolled-own-social-media-team.html https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/jon-greenberg-athletic-chicago-bears-white-sox.html https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/white-sox-by-the-numbers-how-offensive-futility-record-losing-streaks-combined-for-a-120-loss-season/

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/09/22/chicago-white-sox-fall-to-such-depths/

They have had one this year in April at home vs. Tampa when they scored two in the 10th to win 8-7 if I remember correctly.

For the 27th time the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later and lost. 27 times. Mind blowing.

You are probably right but given the shitshow the last week nationally and locally and given JR's age anything could happen between now and next season.

I think they can tie the record at 120 losses in San Diego if they lose Sunday. They can break it Tuesday at home vs. the Angels.

😆 It wasn't Chris. Never met the guy.

This was posted a few years ago for what it's worth under what Peavy just said and no I didn't post this: "No good place to put this so I'll drop it in here. I have very limited 'inside' connections these days. I used to - back when I was in sports broadcasting - but that was 20+ years ago. Anyway, last week I spoke to a friend who is in a position to know quite a bit about the inner workings of the Sox. Not just whispers but actually knowledge. He told me, "don't believe anyone that tells you that Herm Schneider is a good trainer." He then went into some detail as to why this isn't true and how the Sox are basically playing checkers while teams like the Astros are playing chess. He meant in terms of conditioning, training, game preparation, etc. The Astros even have customized sleep plans for their players to make sure they are at their peak during games. Meanwhile, the Sox are just now coming out of the dark ages and guys like Schneider are almost untouchable because of their relationship with Reinsdorf. I only bring it up because it underscores one thing that will come as a surprise to no one - Jerry Reinsdorf is fiercely loyal to his employees, sometimes to the detriment of the team. It makes me somewhat nervous that Renteria will get a longer leash than he would get anywhere else. I'm okay with him finishing out this season, but I don't think they can afford to keep him next year. I don't think waiting to hire a manager until the Sox are ready to compete ('20?) is a good idea. Ideally, that person is already on board and getting to know the locker room and putting his brand on the team. One other thing - he thinks we should be thankful that Chris Getz is running the minor leagues. Apparently, he's more of a new school guy and is trying to modernize the Sox approach in terms of player development, prep, coaching, etc. Anyway, thought I'd share. I gave Lip a hard time about the injury thing but he may have been on point."

If you look at my posts I always quote DVS of the Sun-Times. I forgot to do it this time, I apologize.

From DVS Sun-Times story today: Moncada wants to play Third baseman Yoan Moncada wasn’t in the lineup a fourth consecutive game since finishing his rehab assignment, and he’s not sure when he’ll start in the last eight games. “I don’t know what the plan is,” Moncada said. “They don’t talk to me. I don’t know anything, really.” Asked if he’s unhappy about not playing, Moncada said, “Yeah, I’m here. I know it’s hard. It is what it is.” “It’s not easy,” Sizemore said. “And it’s not an indication of him as a player or anything like that. It’s just where we are at as an organization, what the priorities are.” Moncada entered as a pinch runner in extra innings of a 4-3 loss at the Angels on Wednesday, then struck out in his only at-bat. On Friday, Sizemore reiterated the team’s priority to play Bryan Ramos and Miguel Vargas, knowing Moncada likely won’t be with the Sox next season. “He’s taking it well,” Sizemore said. “I should probably still be talking to him more about what the plan is. But at the same time, we have to see what these guys have. We have limited games left to really evaluate them.”

Dish Network no longer carries any regional sports channels.

Another story on what "famous" Sox fans think about this season. Dennis DeYoung (Styx) had some direct comments: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/09/21/chicago-white-sox-fans-losses/

Sox are now 3-10 in extra inning games and 11-29 in one run games.

"Luck is the residue of design." -- Branch Rickey

It's called getting a paycheck and if you get fired there is a reasonable chance that you can qualify for unemployment insurance.

I liked Chuck a lot but Paul Richards and Marty Marion were better managers. Regarding Ozzie: September 26, 2011 – He was considered the face of the franchise for eight seasons but on this night after a 4-3 win over Toronto, manager Ozzie Guillen announced he was leaving after owner Jerry Reinsdorf agreed to let him out of the final year of his contract. Guillen, who was the 1985 A.L. Rookie of the Year with the White Sox, won the World Series in 2005 and also got the club into the playoffs in 2008. He had five winning seasons in the eight years as manager and was named Manager of the Year for his work in 2005. In that magical season of 2005, “Ozzie Ball” resulted in the Sox getting off to the best start in their history and with a perfect blend of pitching, speed, power and the ability to execute the fundamentals the Sox were in first place from wire to wire. Then they blitzed through the post season putting together an 11-1 record that was the third best post season record in baseball history. Guillen’s passion and enthusiasm for the franchise was unparalleled but at times he was his own worst enemy. Over his final years in Chicago, he became increasingly thin-skinned and defensive when criticism was directed his way and he lashed out at Sox fans on more than one occasion. Among his famous rants against the fans were one where he said that they could ‘‘Turn off their TVs and stop watching the game if they don’t like the [bleep]ing lineup’’ and another in May 2011 where he claimed Sox fans would not remember him, “As soon as you leave the ballpark, they don’t care about you. They don’t. The monuments, the statues…they pee on them when they get drunk.” On the afternoon of the day he left the team Guillen told reporters that he would not want to return to fulfill his 2012 contract unless he got an extension and more money. Ozzie’s relationship with G.M. Kenny Williams also deteriorated over the final few years because the two men appeared to have different viewpoints over how the roster should be constructed and the style to which the Sox should play. The Jim Thome/DH controversy was an example of the different ideas. Guillen’s family didn’t help the situation with social media comments derogatory to Williams. Many felt when Ozzie was hired in November 2003 that he was the right man for the right team at the right time and for a few years he was. Unfortunately, the manager with the longest tenure since Al Lopez let some personal foibles override a good situation and it was best for all that a parting of the ways took place. Greg: Don't forget the Sox actually were still in the race before a crucial series with Detroit when before the game Ozzie met the press and started talking about not wanting to stay unless he got a raise and a contract extension. He doubled down on that the day he was allowed to leave.

To DVS of the Sun-Times: "But when asked if the Sox can turn things around as is, there was a long pause. “I’ll answer it this way,’' he said. “Pedro Grifol is not the White Sox’ problem anymore. And the White Sox are not Pedro Grifol’s problem anymore.” https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/09/20/as-white-sox-close-in-on-62-mets-record-for-futility-ex-manager-pedro-grifol-hurts-for-former-players

"Billy was starting to slip a little bit. He never complained but I think his arm was bothering him a little bit. Just before we clinched the pennant that year, Billy had pitched against the Yankees in Yankee Stadium and had beaten them 4-3. He pitched a good game. Then he pitched again and hadn't looked good. Now our last series was in Detroit. I stayed in Chicago because the Dodgers were coming in to play the Cubs, so I put Tony Cuccinello in charge of the club. And I said, 'I want you to pitch Billy in Detroit, get him ready for the series." Because it was going to be Wynn, Shaw and Pierce for the series." "I told Tony, 'Let him go seven innings and give me a report on how he looks.' Tony came back and said, 'Al, he wasn't throwing good at all.' So that's one of the reasons we switched to Donovan in the third game."--Al Lopez to the Tribune's Bob Vanderberg. Pierce started the first game of the Detroit series, September 25, 1959. He gave up three runs on five hits in two innings. So that's

Not always, just this year the place was half empty for Oakland. As late as 1983 they were closing the upper deck.

I used to think that would happen, I don't believe that anymore, the Cubs would scream about territorial rights.

Remember JR said the Sox wouldn't get into bidding for him! 😆

From my interview with Billy: ML: Your career continued to roll along culminating with the pennant year of 1959. For the city and the team it was the pinnacle of success, but for you personally, it wasn’t your best season. You missed six weeks with a hip injury and when it came time for the World Series, Manager Al Lopez passed you over for a starting assignment. Older Sox fans still insist, if you start Game #2, instead of Bob Shaw, and win, the Sox take the Series. How difficult was that for you being relegated to only four innings of relief work? BP: "It was very tough. It was a real hard thing. I appeared in three games and pitched well but it was a disappointment. I still wanted the Sox to win, after all, they were my teammates but I was very glad when it was over. Let’s put it this way, I left town pretty quickly to try to forget about it all." ML: Did that affect your relationship with Lopez, and what did you think of him as a manager? BP: "Al was a real good manager. His record shows that. He was a solid percentage baseball guy. I honestly think the controversy affected Al more than me. I wasn’t the culprit; all I could do was what he told me. He had to listen to the fans who wanted me to pitch but I couldn’t do anything about it."