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Actually both of them have been saying Anderson has been part of the problem and in my opinion they are right. Guy has a world of talent and a 10 cent head. His distractions and off the field antics can be someone else's problem. The Sox are going to be brutal next year so at least try to get some guys who care.

November 4, 1965 – “The Senor,” manager Al Lopez, resigned his position with the White Sox for health reasons. Perhaps the greatest manager in franchise history, Lopez had nine winning seasons in his nine full time years as field manager. He won the 1959 American League pennant and was coming off of back-to-back-to-back 90 or more-win seasons in 1963, 1964 and 1965. The Sox averaged 96 wins a season during that time span. His 840 wins are second most in team history. He returned to manage for parts of the 1968 and 1969 seasons.

Best thing for all concerned, if Liam really wants to return to the organization he'll have an opportunity to work out a new agreement. And this gives the Sox some "financial flexibility" (so they can waste it on injury-prone, retreads and stiffs) ?

November 3, 1983 – Tony LaRussa, who guided the White Sox to a 99-win season and their first playoff appearance in 24 years, was named the Manager of the Year by the Baseball Writers Association of America. It was the first year the organization handed out that award. LaRussa received 17 of a possible 28 votes to take the honor. He beat out the Orioles Joe Altobelli who picked up seven first place votes. LaRussa would also take Manager of the Year honors from The Sporting News and the Associated Press. November 3, 1988 - The Sox named Jeff Torborg as the team’s new field manager. Torborg, a former Major League catcher, and Indian’s manager, gained notable success with the club. His ‘team and family’ philosophy took hold and a young group of players stunned the baseball world by winning 94 games in 1990. He would be named Manager of the Year that season. He followed up that year by winning 87 games in 1991 before being forced out by then Sox G.M. Ron Schueler who wanted to hire his own man. Torborg by the way is the only man in baseball history to have caught a perfect game from Sandy Koufax and a no-hitter from Nolan Ryan as he played for the Dodgers and Angels from 1964 through 1973. He also caught a third no-hitter courtesy of the Dodgers Bill Singer. November 3, 2003 - Former Sox All-Star shortstop Ozzie Guillen was named the team’s manager replacing Jerry Manuel. The “Wizard of Oz” immediately set about changing the fortunes of the franchise. His “Ozzie-Ball” philosophy of pitching, smart/aggressive base running, defense and doing the little things instead of just waiting for the home run would help lead to a World Series title in 2005, the season he would be named Manager of the Year. He’d return to the playoffs with the club in 2008. Before being allowed to leave in late September 2011, Guillen appeared to be headed for a very long career on the South Side but his relationship changed with then G.M. Kenny Williams and a parting was best for all concerned. November 3, 2022 – The White Sox named former Royals coach Pedro Grifol the club’s new manager replacing Tony LaRussa who officially retired due to health concerns in October. Grifol who played college baseball at Florida State and got as high as Triple-A, but never spent a day in the Major Leagues, spent 10 years in the Royals organization and before that had a lengthy stay in the Mariners ranks. His hiring as an ‘outsider,’ someone who had no connection to either Jerry Reinsdorf or the White Sox organization, marked the first time that had happened in the managerial search since Jerry Manuel got the position before the start of the 1998 season. His first year however was a disaster as he appeared overmatched on numerous occasions. The team went 61-101 and that mark placed Grifol as the worst skipper in franchise history among those who lasted at least one full season.

Some talk among some of the talking heads this may be a guy the Sox should look to. Not happening. Resigned with the Dodgers today, two years, 24 million. I just have a feeling the Sox free agent possibilities are going to be very slim pickings. This is just an awful situation, just brutal across the board in all areas. How quickly everything went downhill and completely fell apart. Truly remarkable.

https://soxmachine.com/2023/11/white-sox-hire-paul-janish-as-director-of-player-development/

But he probably works cheap! ?

November 2, 1993 - Sox pitcher “Black” Jack McDowell easily captured the American League Cy Young Award. He beat out Randy Johnson. McDowell went 22-10 with a 3.37 ERA. He led the league in wins and shutouts. He was second in innings pitched and third in complete games. Jack got 124 points to Johnson’s 75. From 1990 through 1994 Jack won more games than any pitcher in the American League, 73 to be exact.

The name I was told went along the lines of "Comiskey Park at Wintrust Field." And I was told the same thing that there was a higher bidder that certain members of the organization withheld some info from JR.

November 1, 1950 - All-time great and career White Sox standout Luke Appling officially announced his retirement after 20 years with the franchise. He was undoubtedly the greatest player in franchise history at the time, boasting a career average of .310 with 2,749 hits. He won two batting titles and in 1936 drove in 128 runs. Later he would manager in the White Sox minor league system and also returned as a coach for the Sox in the 1970 and 1971 seasons. November 1, 2016 - A name change went into effect at the stadium formerly known as U.S. Cellular Field. The Guaranteed Rate mortgage company, based in Chicago, signed a 13-year agreement with the team for naming rights. The stadium would be called Guaranteed Rate Field. The announcement was met with a storm of ridicule by many including the Chicago Bears and Chicago Cubs who tweeted out negative comments. The downward arrow logo for the company also was met with criticism by many Sox fans who felt that was not an appropriate connection with a baseball team, particularly one who had been struggling for several seasons. According to reports the White Sox asked the company to change the logo’s direction but were refused. There were also reports another company made a better offer to the Sox for naming rights but wanted the stadium name changed back to Comiskey Park which Jerry Reinsdorf, White Sox owner objected to.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/11/1/23932977/sox-prospect-jake-eder-is-looking-to-deliver-burger-getz-farquhar-birmingham-barons-lefty

Garfien had MLB Network broadcaster Dan Plesac on for his latest podcast. Plesac grew up in Chicago, grew up a Sox fan, always wanted to play for them. Garfien asked him about the season and what would it take to turn things around. Plesac said the Sox have to spend money and they have to hit on some of the young kids developing and contributing. Talked about scouting. So Garfien said the Sox have four areas that need to be fixed, right field, second base, catcher and starting pitching. He listed four or five names for each position, all free agents (he didn't want to get into trade possibilities) and asked Plesac who would you sign and why. Plesac's answers were: RF: Michael Conforto 2B: Whit Merrifield C : Austin Hedges SP: Lucas Giolito / Jack Flaherty Plesac said if the Sox signed all those guys he'd guarantee they'd be 15 games better this year, the play on the field would be better, the clubhouse situation would be better. Garfien then said if that were to happen they may be "in it" in the division at the trade deadline and perhaps the organization could convince JR to spend at the deadline.

October 31, 2005 - Happy Halloween! As the White Sox were winning their first championship in 88 years, Sports Illustrated put Scott Podsednik and his winning home run from the second game on the cover. The long caption read, “World Series. In a Match Up of Two Title Hungry Teams, The White Sox Struck First, Dramatically Downing the Astros in Games 1 And 2.” Sports Illustrated then basically ignored the White Sox winning the series by only putting a small circle shot of the team celebrating in the corner of the following week’s cover, breaking a long-standing tradition. The cover that week was Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as the magazine previewed a regular season NFL game….not a Super Bowl matchup, not a playoff contest…but a regular season meeting.

October 30, 1959 - He was acquired before the start of the 1958 season and part of the cost was trading the popular “Minnie” Minoso. Pitcher Early Wynn didn’t start out on the right side of things with a lot of Sox fans. Compounding the issue was a mediocre season. In 1959 however Wynn turned back the clock leading the Major Leagues with 22 wins and he had an ERA of 3.17. That won him the Cy Young Award. He got 13 of the 16 votes. This was a time when only one award was given to the best pitcher in baseball as opposed to now when the award is given to a pitcher from each league. Sam Jones of the Giants got two votes with Bob Shaw of the White Sox getting the final one. Wynn also led the league in starts, innings pitched and batters faced. October 30, 1967 - The White Sox announced that nine regular season games in 1968 would be moved from Comiskey Park to County Stadium in Milwaukee. In nine dates in Milwaukee, the White Sox drew 265,552 fans, averaging 29,506. Meanwhile, attendance was just 538,203 in 72 games at Comiskey Park averaging 7,475. In 1969, the second and last year of the experiment, the White Sox drew 196,784 over 11 dates at County Stadium, averaging 17,889. At Comiskey Park in 70 games, the White Sox averaged just 5,611. A franchise hadn’t played ‘home’ games outside of its home park in the American League since 1905. What was suspected at the time of the experiment, and later shown to be true, was that Sox owner Art Allyn was testing the Milwaukee market speaking frequently with Allen “Bud” Selig who was attempting to get another Major League franchise to relocate to Milwaukee which lost the Braves after the 1965 season. Selig thought he was close to getting the White Sox after getting a handshake to move but Art Allyn decided to sell the club in September 1969 to his brother John thwarting Selig’s efforts and John kept the team in Chicago. October 30, 1986 - Larry Himes was hired as the new Sox G. M. replacing Ken “Hawk” Harrelson. Himes drafted and signed Sox future stars like Frank Thomas, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Ray Durham and Alex Fernandez as he rebuilt and guided the franchise through the possibility of moving to Florida. He would be fired in September 1990 after philosophical differences between him and ownership, in particular Jerry Reinsdorf, made working together impossible. At the press conference announcing Himes’ firing Reinsdorf let his feelings be known loud and clear. "Larry Himes took us from point A to point B. He was very successful in getting us to point B. We need to get to point C. It’s our opinion that Larry Himes is not the best person to get us to point C — a world’s championship." October 30, 1990 – White Sox manager Jeff Torborg was named the Manager of the Year by the Baseball Writers Association of America after guiding the team to a record of 94-68. The Sox shocked the baseball world after being picked to finish no higher than fourth place. Instead, they challenged the eventual A.L. champion Oakland A’s right into September and were the only club in the league to have won the season series from them. Only the A’s and the Pittsburgh Pirates had better records during the season than the White Sox. Torborg got 23 of 28 first place votes for 128 points. The A’s Tony LaRussa, the former Sox skipper, picked up the other four first place votes and finished up with 72 points. Joe Morgan of the Red Sox got the final first place vote finishing third with 28 points. Jeff was the only manager to be named on every ballot. October 30, 2005 – Literally days after the White Sox won their first World Series since 1917, Al Lopez, arguably the greatest manager in team history died at the age of 97. Lopez took over for Marty Marion before the start of the 1957 season and through 1965 led the club to nine straight winning seasons, five of them with 90+ victories and the 1959 American League pennant. He returned to the team in the managers capacity for parts of the 1968 and 1969 years. Lopez was a fundamentalist and as a former All-Star catcher knew the game. He worked through his assistant coaches as a game progressed but wasn’t shy about calling players out if he felt they weren’t giving a best effort or were constantly doing something wrong. Among Sox players who felt his wrath at times were All-Stars Nellie Fox and Jim Landis. But under Lopez the team got results and because he got along well with the media, positive publicity even at times when things weren’t going as well as could be on the field. Lopez, “The Senor” won 840 games with the Sox and had a winning percentage of .564.

I have been critical in the past about Garfien being to close to the organization and JR. But in the last few years he hasn't been afraid to call out the incompetence and the dysfunction. And I have to give him credit for that.

October 29, 1956 - Al Lopez replaced Marty Marion as field manager. Marion who did a fine job in replacing Paul Richards had missed an important board meeting to be with his family at an event. It was all the excuse the Sox needed to let him go despite third place finishes and winning records in 1955 and 1956. “The Senor” though would prove to be a most able replacement. Lopez had nine straight winning seasons with the club and copped the 1959 American League pennant. Many say he was the finest manager in team history. He holds the franchise record for the highest winning percentage for any manager who lasted at least five full seasons at .562 Lopez eventually won 840 games over nine full seasons and two partial ones with the Sox. October 29, 2020 – In a move that stunned the baseball world and angered many White Sox fans, Hall of Famer Tony LaRussa was announced as the new manager signing a multi-year contract. LaRussa began his career with the Sox from 1979 to 1986 posting four winning seasons and taking the 1983 Western Division championship. But he hadn’t managed since retiring at the end of the 2011 season with the Cardinals and his age was a concern to many given the global pandemic. LaRussa though was at the forefront of the analytical revolution in baseball, was the first manager to set up a bullpen to bridge things to a ‘closer,’ and won World Series titles in Oakland and St. Louis. Since 2011 he worked in the front offices for Arizona, Boston and the Angels. With the White Sox feeling they had moved into serious contention for championships with a young, talented team, LaRussa appeared to be, in their minds, the man to take them to the next level. At 76 he became the third oldest person to manage a Major League team behind “Connie” Mack and Jack McKeon. And under his guidance the Sox despite crippling injuries won 93 games and the Central Division title in the 2021 season before losing to the Astros in the A.L.D.S. The 2022 season though was another story as he was heavily criticized for some bizarre managerial decisions, unusual line up combinations and his awkward rambling press conferences. It culminated with him having to leave the club before the game on August 30 due to health concerns and retiring for good.

As has been stated when the "face of the franchise" seems to get into numerous confrontations with umpires. gets suspended multiple times, flips off fans, is almost always injured, has off field issues that appear to impact his on field performance...yea...that's a problem.

October 28, 2005 – It was one of the largest turnouts for a championship celebration in Chicago sports history as nearly two million people lined the parade route, according to the Chicago Police Department, in the downtown area/South Side to honor the World Series champions. White Sox players and management addressed the crowd and Paul Konerko presented the last out/game ball to owner Jerry Reinsdorf.

Being a White Sox fan proud of a competent, functional, winning organization?

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-prospect-jake-eder-shows-growth-in-arizona-fall-league?t=arizona-fall-league-coverage

According to Merkin: https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-offseason-questions-2023

October 26, 1931 - Sox founder and owner Charles Comiskey died in his home in Eagle River, Wisconsin. He left his entire estate to his son J. Louis Comiskey including the White Sox. His estate was valued at over one and a half million dollars at the time. He died in his sleep. He was 72 years old and had been suffering from heart and kidney ailments that had kept him confined to his home for weeks. He was the last surviving owner from the formation of the American League who was still active in the game. (The Indians former owner Charles Somers was still alive but had been out of baseball for years.) October 26, 1994 - Even though his quest for the Triple Crown was cut short by the labor impasse shutting down baseball six weeks early, Frank Thomas still did enough to garner his second straight M.V.P. award from the Baseball Writers Association of America. Thomas outdistanced future Sox outfielder Ken Griffey Jr. and future teammate, Albert Belle and finished with 24 first place votes out of a possible 28. He ended up with 372 points to Griffey’s 233 and Belle’s 225. Thomas, in 113 games, hit .353 with 38 home runs, 101 RBI’s, 106 runs and 109 walks. With the award, Thomas became the first back-to-back A.L. winner since the Yankees' Roger Maris in 1960 and 1961. October 26, 2005 - On this night the Sox became World Series champions for the first time since 1917. Freddy Garcia and three relief pitchers shut out the Astros on five hits 1-0 sweeping the best of seven series four games to none. The Sox shut out Houston for the final 15 innings in series play. Outfielder Jermaine Dye drove in the game’s only run and was named the M.V.P. of the series. The South Side of Chicago exploded in an orgy of delight as fans celebrated all over the area.

It's all about making money and JR claims you can't do that in baseball (LOL) which is why he wants his family to keep the Bulls and sell the Sox.

"The scout added that Eder might be better-suited as a middle-inning reliever unless he curbs his wildness soon." https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/10/25/23931316/sox-gm-chris-getz-says-pitching-prospect-jake-eder-is-close-to-the-majors

Haven't heard about this, could you link to a story or something? That makes some sense, JR would want no possible complications when he's gone and the family sells.