Jose Abreu

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 10:43 PM) 2 year 10 mil+. Could be a good deal for Cleveland. Especially in this market. Believe it or not he's had a handful of pretty good years. I know he has, but it's still a risk. Keppinger-like, in a way, except Keppinger played well in 2012.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 10:35 PM) It was the 5th most home runs in the LEAGUE. And you just disproved your own Ozzie ball theory. Ozzie had teams that could hit it out of the park, period. Just because he gave away outs sometimes doesn't mean his teams didn't have power Well, we were also discussing strikeouts, and if you compare Ozzie's time to Robin's so far, we have far more strikeouts per season then we used to with Ozzie ball.

His stats and MVP results- www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/thomafr04.shtml

That's right, good point ^^. Hell, he could've even won in 06 with Oakland.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 10:01 PM) Really? http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...ml?mobile=false 200 isn't a lot? Well, compared to other Ozzie years, no. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...8-batting.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...6-batting.shtml

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 09:55 PM) Ozzie ball contained a lot of home runs Not in 05

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 09:45 PM) Why do people put De Aza on the sucked/ship him out list? He's a 2 to 3 WAR guy who's cheap. What is wrong with this? If you dont like him leading off then the problem is just him leading off. For what he costs, the problems lie elsewhere on this team. I agree. If he could just fix that god-awful baserunning and maybe get a slightly better glove...

David Murphy to Cleveland. *crosses name off just-in-case-we-totally-blow-it-list*

He also said, "I have confidence in Rick Hahn," Thomas said. "He's a good guy. But maybe he's lacking the heartbeat of the locker room. I always thought baseball guys should be assistant GMs. But he's not the only one. There are lots of guys out there who study all the statistics."

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/frank-...-four-more-mvps I think maybe two more. One for sure in 2000. Not so sure about four, though. Which years do you think he's referring to? His stats and MVP results (in right column): www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/thomafr04.shtml

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 09:24 PM) With 100 home runs, sure I'll take that many Ks. Have we forgotten the ways of Ozzie Ball?

Keep in mind that Abreu and Dunn will combine for 400 strikeouts as well. Do we really want to make that 575/600?

O's interested in Gavin Floyd. Seems like a Baltimore kind of guy; their whole rotation is pretty much a bunch of #3 and #4 starters every year (rare exceptions such as Tillman who is a #2).

Alright, it's good that Konerko's decision hasn't "hamstrung" our plans. Hinting at a Paulie hamstring injury, Hahn?

Are we still likely to make a run at him like we were the day this thread was posted? Did the Abreu signing completely diminish the chances of a Granderson to the White Sox signing?

Minor league contract; left had a great 2.13 ERA in 2013 but walked 6 batters per 9 innings. Alex Liddi followed by David Purcey? I think that's all we need. We're ready to contend.

Ray Olmedo? What exactly is the point of this thread?

.272, 111/527 over 8 minor league years. Has seen glimpses of the majors. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/p...id=liddi-001ale

Having a switch hitter in the starting lineup would be nice, though

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 11:51 PM) And what does Viciedo think of that? I'm pretty sure he doesn't like his either. But I don't think either will change.

Sorta OT but Quintana wants his number changed to 24 apparently.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 07:02 PM) C'mon, Scot Gregor. http://bbwaa.com/13-al-cy/ QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 07:17 PM) Both Detroit voters included Greg Holland as 5th? Really, Scot Gregor? And Greg Holland? I'd even put Koji U above Holland.

Sale finished 5th, Dodgers beat write gave him a 1st place vote

Dan Hayes: "What that means is anyone not named Jose Abreu, Avisail Garcia, Sale and Jose Quintana can be acquired in a trade, those executives confirmed." Jose Quintana will be here next year.

I'd love a 2009/2010 Kurt Suzuki. But a 2013 Suzuki? No thanks. I'd rather stick with Phlowers.