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Dalbec also had the benefit of the left-field wall hitting 25 that year.

If we are trading Crochet, I would prefer that the Number 1 return is ready to start next year. But not Abreu from Boston since he is not proven to be an everyday OF.

I don't think the Red Sox are the frontrunners for Soto. I think the New York teams will battle it out . So I think Crochet is the trade the Red Sox will want. They just need to squeeze the Red Sox for a Number 1 attraction in their package not Abreu as a Number 1. If Red Sox do get Soto, I think Boston will go for a lesser SP target than Crochet.

Agree as long as Abreu is the #2 piece in a trade. He is pretty much only reliable hitting against RH pitching. But he is young and going against lefties should be the next step in his offense. Boston has a need to find a hole for one of their young OF prospects so Abreu should be a nice 2nd piece

I would assume Boston's pursuit of Soto will put Crochet talks on back burner until Soto makes a decision. I think he stays in New York but we shall see.

Speaking of the Red Sox, Boston already has a starting LF in Duran and CF in Rafaela. So Abreu is the 3rd outfielder especially since he only had had success against RH. So with the soon arrival of Anthony, Mayer, Campbell and Montgomery Abreu would be a perfect target for Red Sox to offer in a Crochet trade. White Sox need to get a better main piece than Abreu

Agree. Abreu had a very good year but he is still adjusting to hitting lefties. He cannot be the headliner. Abreu may be great in the future but right now the White Sox need a player who can offset, to some degree, if we are trading a potential number top 5-10 starter. Some team, desperate for an ace, will trade a headliner to offset Crochet

Abreu was solid last year but only against RH pitching. He really struggled against lefties and was eventually sitting against left handed pitching. Now Abreu is young, hit well, good base runner and he has a solid RF arm. But it is a little scary that he is the best player on our side in case he keeps struggling against lefties. Maybe he just needs time to adjust to LH pitching but it is cause for thought.

I said Crochet is a Number 1 or 2 starter. Are we sure Getz is a "no brainer" to get "a very good return "for Crochet. Also , if the intention is to keep Crochet and still lose 100 games then you absolutely should trade him. If the Sox keep Crochet and add significant players from free agency then that is a different conversation.

Crochet is a Number 1 or 2 starter for many teams next year. The White Sox should listen to all the offers but only trade him if they get a great offer and "someone" in the Sox office is smart enough to realize that. A number 1 or 2 starter should only be traded if there is a haul coming back.

Actually most MLB draft expectations in 2016 had Moncada as #1, Devers as #2 and Benintendi as 3rd with Kopech as 5 and Basabe 6-8 depending on who did the rating. But I agree that Moncada was #1 and it wasn't that close since Devers was only 19. Unfortunately Devers or Beni was not the 2nd get. It was Kopech at #5 and in fairness maybe Boston wanted a pitcher as the 2nd choice . Dombrowski said Moncada would probably have 15 good years but...........................

It didn't which was my point. Moncada was another disappointment. Why I say resigning Crochet may be a better sign than doing say a trade for Anthony. But, I am not sure if Crochet would be an even trade for Anthony.

We traded Sale and the crown jewel coming back was Moncada. Ironically Devers was supposedly an option but Moncada was "higher" rated. Sale really wasn't a steal with all his injuries but Moncada was no bargain either. Maybe resign Crochet and we don't have to worry about Anthony being a bust again.

The question is are the Sox trading Crochet. If they are, they need at least a number 2 starter back as part of that deal or a Robert deal. There is no way the Sox are trading Robert, Benintendi and Crochet unless the Orioles are including Holliday and a number 2 starter in return.

The Orioles have 3 in the Top 30 prospects and some surveys have them in Top10. I would prefer resigning Crochet but if he Sox prefer trading him the Oriols and also Red Sox need a number 1 and have a bunch of Top 50 prospects. Like the Orioles, the Red Sox keep their top prospect this year but now maybe they will trade via some of their prospects.

Royals went from 106 losses in 2023 to knocking out Orioles in 1st round in 2024. Maybe we can have a much better start in 2025. But that takes major changes and a bankroll to pay for it.

I can understand why a White Sox fan would be of the opinion that they do not intend to go to and will barely watch the team going forward. But a fan who has "signed up" to be an " admin" on the Pale Hose Talk website,would sound odd to say they intend to "barely watch the team" next year. I would think that a person that intends to rarely spend time time watching the team should really quit their admin role. Maybe I am missing something. ?

Crochet is already dominating so we should get him under a long term contract. But Smith and Schultz look good on paper but some scouts say a young player is not a "real prospect" until he is tearing it up in at least AA

Red Sox have been struggling especially with RH power. But yesterday, the Red Sox were taking batting practice. The LF wall looked like a Jai-Alai wall. last night. Maybe Crochet should retire for this year before his value runs out.

Agree other than he hit 3 batters during the game, two in the back foot. The other one got hit right in the middle of his back. The Boston dugout and crowd got a little upset especially the last one.

He may be a "decent baseball mind" but so far his record is worst than Grifol despite playing more home games so far.

I think we have to see the record after the season ends. It would be great if the team has a solid couple of months to finish off the year.

The Cubs and Sox actually played 2 -1 game series in each park then played 2- 2 game series in each park which resulted in no game today. I am sure it has happened before but like you I can never remember it happening resulting on Sunday off?

I would assume he won't be traded now until the winter. Hopefully he fixes any issues so his trade value is high.

I think it is important for a player to be healthy before we judge their ability to perform. I have no idea if Robert is really healthy or not. I assume he is close to healthy since he is playing pretty regularly but maybe he is not.