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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) If that RF is Ethier, then someone needs to face LHP for him as well. That's my point. You realize that there aren't a huge amount of LHP starters in the central and really not alot in al. There might be only 4 in central but most of them might not be fully starters. Hence the reason if true Sox are looking at LH bat.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) For a guy who now supposedly doesn't provide enough from the left side, Fowler has a career .351 OBP left handed and a .761 OPS. And he can play against LHP. Fowler is the better option. I think they are using the press to try to get Fowler to sign. Yes that's good for fowler but looking at career stats there's a nice difference vs RH pitching for the 2. Fowler .252, .351, .410, .761 Ethier .308, .383, .507, .889

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 11:32 AM) Assuming Ethier is acquired and Avi stays, what would the outfield situation look like on Opening Day? Eaton, Ethier, Melky, Garcia, Shuck, and Sands would all be in the mix for a spot. They would never have all 6 of them on the roster at the same time. It'll only be 4 of them most likely and I don't know who would be left out. Sands and Shuck probably, but I don't know. What a fustercluck. Right now Shuck has to stay as 4th outfielder since he can back up cf. Ideally if the Sox were to aquire Ethier the best back up and platoon with him would have been Trayce but he's gone. Avi probably gets sent down if someone else gets acquired for outfield unless a miracle happens were they move Laroche and Avi maybe dhs

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 11:22 AM) Nobody has answered my question. Lets just pretend that we added Ethier to the team for a minor leaguer. vs RHP 1. Eaton CF 2. Ethier RF 3. Abreu 1B 4. Frazier 3B 5. Cabrera LF 6. Lawrie 2B 7. LaRoche DH 8. Avila C 9. Saladino SS vs LHP 1. Eaton CF 2. Cabrera DH 3. Abreu 1B 4. Frazier 3B 5. Lawrie 2B 6. Garcia RF 7. Navarro C 8. Sands LF 9. Saladino SS This team would have a bench of Sands, Catcher Spot, Sanchez, and Garcia. It doesn't work. One of Garcia or LaRoche has to magically go somewhere if they add Ethier and they'd need a RHH OF. Probably need to replace sands with Shuck. Shuck can backup cf. Garcia would either be traded or most likely optioned since he has one option left. Might be more of leury Garcia since he can play some outfield along with infield but that kinda makes weak bench

You know Ethier might be a platoon player but for starting pitchers in the central most right handed he might be a better choice. Last year fowler didn't hit well vs RH pitching

QUOTE (Finkelstein @ Feb 2, 2016 -> 10:03 AM) LaRoche and Putnam for Ethier and 2.5M (covers the 2018 buyout). Why does everyone keep trying to give them Laroche. They absolutely have no need or room for him. You might have been more likely with Danks before the Dodgers went on a bringing in a ton of pitching but probably not now. Most likely you are probably taking about a bullpen arm at this point for Ethier.

With Jean Segura in, Dbacks also have Nick Ahmed and Chris Owings at SS and are in need of relief, which is area of depth for #WhiteSox. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/693599566596325376

With Jean Segura in, Dbacks also have Nick Ahmed and Chris Owings at SS and are in need of relief, which is area of depth for #WhiteSox. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/693599566596325376

Rick Hahn: "We're going to have to tighten up a few areas" in reference to defense, base running. #WhiteSox https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/693466752202772480 Hahn: "If this is the 25 we go with, the ingredients are there." But he wants to tweak roster. https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/693466953478971393

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/rick-h...white-sox-moves

Rick Hahn on last month of offseason: "It’s frustrating from standpoint in that we haven’t been able to convert on any targets." #WhiteSox https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/693250466453536768

Rick Hahn referred to Yoenis Cespedes in the town hall session and seemed to suggest they were in on Alex Gordon, too. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/693250317799051264

Hahn: "We have to be creative to make something work going forward. That was part of even those pursuits of the bigger name guys." https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/693247514041016320

Big focus on White Sox poor starts to season, a problem for a while now. Ventura said players might play longer in Cactus League games. https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/693231071220121601 Ventura said regular lineup might play together more as unit in spring training. Also more ABs for starters. https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/693231279047884801 Ya they need to get more at bats together. Last year I kept wondering when the actual lineup was going to get more time together and they didn't

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) White Sox don't really have a guy comparable to McGee unless they moved Nate Jones. Plus the prospect that went to the Rockies is supposed to be pretty decent. Mcgee probably won't be around to long with the Rockies and there were alot of teams after him before the trade. So figure the Rockies will be getting back more when Mcgee gets traded at some point.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/163127848/ml...rd-basemen-list Here's the article from mlb network

Says MLB Network. #WhiteSox #Cubs https://t.co/EoNcrTnFTb Will post the mlb network article when I can find it. So at this point Sox have 4 players in the top ten at each position in cf, 3rd base, 1st baseman and starting pitcher

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 08:53 AM) It's hard to argue against your point. I just prefer trying to improve the clean up spot, rather than the #2 hole. It's pretty hard to be optimistic, with La Roche there, again. Wouldnt the clean up spot be Frazier.

Corey Dickerson career splits: Home: .355/.410/.675 Road: .249/.286/.410 Always the danger in trading for a Colorado position player. https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/692815779125788673

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) So much for Dickerson to the Sox. Unless the Rox plan on flipping McGee for more, I don't understand this move at all for them. Alot of people are saying Mcgee will probably be trade bait down the line

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/01/27/cubs-w...-dexter-fowler/

QUOTE (CyAcosta41 @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) I have no problem either with the Sox signing Fowler. When the so-called Big Three were in play, I was most interested in Gordon because I felt his overall skill set best fit what the Sox needed. Granted, part of the Gordon package was near-elite play in LF and Fowler is at best an adequate OFer (but Avi is currently so bad out there that bringing in anybody that results in less defensive innings for Avi is an overall net gain). But on the offensive side, Fowler brings many of the same offensive gifts that Gordon would have brought -- high OBP, lots of doubles, 13-17 HRs, and left-handedness (when he isn't hitting right-handed). I recognize I'm in the minority, but I have no problem giving away our comp round pick provided we still have our first and second round picks to play prospect lottery. When we kept Samardzija post trade deadline -- knowing we'd give him a QO and wind-up with a comp round pick -- it gave us an asset. Great, one way to use that asset is to use our superior amateur scouting capabilities and turn a top 30 pick into a can't miss stud player. Except wait -- we don't have a superior amateur scouting system, do we? Not by any metric. And what's more, even if we did, once you get past the top 10-12 in any given draft there are many, many more misses than hits on the major league prospects of the selected player. Yeah, it's valuable, but that pick is not THAT valuable. Losing that pick to pick-up a Dexter Fowler brings value too. In this case, certain value because he WILL play in the bigs, and at worst he adds skills we don't already have, and at best he turns into the missing link that ignites a lineup that for the first time in a few years has some actual overall offensive capabilities. And ... we still have the customary full set of draft picks (we just lose that extra overall #28 pick, or whatever the current high 20s number is). By the way, while it makes a good story, the Cubs don't get THE PICK we were given when Samardzija turned down the QO and was signed by the Giants. Nobody gets that pick. If we sign Fowler, we lose that pick, but it just disappears into thin air. The Cubs get A PICK (not OUR pick) when their guy Fowler is signed by anybody. The most we're doing to help the Cubs is you can say that their pick is one pick higher than it otherwise would have been because our pick disappeared. But that would happen if virtually any team signed Fowler -- and somebody will. Sign Fowler. OR, sign Desmond AND Jackson. Lose one pick and one only. We started a plan and have yet to finish it. There are ample ways to still improve in the OF, or just generally on offense. Finish your plan, Rick. And couple corrections to you post. Sox could have a good scouting department unfortunately it's the player development group that's the issue. Sox get guys with potential but unfortunately can not develop the players to get the talent out of them. Secondly cubs dont don't get a pick for fowler. They get one but will be lost right away. Remember they signed both lackey and Heyward which each cost a pick. So they loose their 1st round pick and also the comp pick tied to fowler. They just will get their second round pick.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) That's freaking hilarious. Doubt that bum has an ERA below 4. Why is that hilarious and why doubt he wont have an Era below 4. Towards the end of the season it was figured out he was tipping his pitches. If that's fixed along with one of teams better defenses in the league and being in a park that isn't homer happy he could be a below 4 era.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 09:35 PM) Last year, the Sox went 32-44 against the AL Central. In the offseason, an already-stacked division got even better. All five teams may contend for first place. While I am happy with the acquisitions of Frazier/Lawrie/catchers etc., I am still unusually pessimistic entering the season. The reason for this pessimism is our division. Detroit's power bats, Kansas City's all-around team, Minnesota's young hitters, and Cleveland's pitching are all very scary, especially considering that 47% of our season will be spent playing these teams. This leads me to ask, how will we fare against our division rivals in 2016? I fear that our intra-division record may be what stops us from making the playoffs. Last time the Sox had a winning record vs the division was 2012 and that was the chance for making the playoffs before falling apart the last 2 weeks. If Sox are going to compete they need to probably have a winning record against the division.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/162550838/cl...top-10-starters MLB Network's top 10 starting pitchers 1. Clayton Kershaw 2. Jake Arrieta 3. Zack Greinke 4. David Price 5. Chris Sale 6. Max Scherzer 7. Corey Kluber 8. Dallas Keuchel 9. Felix Hernandez 10. Adam Wainwright