TheFutureIsNear

I’ve tried to defend Vaughn in the past…but yeah it’s over. Cut ties and move on. It’s bad for all parties to continue to put him out there everyday at this point.

His best/only full season was a year he had a .315 OBP. He is/was always an extremely flawed free swinging hitter. The league adjusted and it’s painfully obvious he’s not capable of counter adjusting and will continue to flail at pitches out of the zone. And cool, he’s athletic and a good fielder…when he’s not missing 50+ games a year with nagging injuries. Luis Robert Jr is on his way to a Kevin Pillar type career. The sooner you accept that the less it will hurt.

I see most are still delusional about Robert? There’s a better chance he gets released at the end of the year than traded for any meaningful prospects. How long of a stretch do you need to see of a guy not being good at hitting a baseball before reality sets in? Are we also waiting on the turn around for TA, Eloy, and Yoan? Or is Robert special for some weird reason?

At what point do we accept the sad reality that we are slowly marching towards Robert being released/option not picked up and never traded?

I advocated to take the gamble and wait on a Cease trade for a better return. Obviously we’ll never know how well Cease would have pitched for the Sox, but also hard to defend the Cease return…even without the Thorpe injury. But other than that? No idea what he is expected to do. I don’t believe he has a bigger budget at his disposal and just doesn’t want to use it. In a full rebuild you pretty just have to cross your fingers and hope. The real test will be if/when the young guys develop and it’s time to add the finishing pieces….if Getz is around for that (hopefully the team is sold and a new GM is brought in) Overall a “C, for now” seems about right.

Getz should take a shot on Buddy Kennedy. No idea what the Phillies want back, but he’s out of options and not making their roster.

At some point in the future I’d love to get to see a list of “This guy played in the majors??”, just from this 2-4 year stretch of Sox ineptitude (who knows, it also may never end)

I think it’s fair to say they just don’t consider Colas

Apparently the plan is to pick up every below average lefty and see what sticks. Most likely none

I guess Getz had a plan for SS that didn’t work out and now needs to double back? Don’t get me wrong, it’s an extremely low % chance, but I’d rather bet on DeLoach being useful than Amaya. Maybe Colas will actually get a chance at RF/DH now though

This seems about appropriate for the Sox

Show your books or shut up…that’s where I’m at with these owners crying poor. I don’t expect every team to be the Dodgers, but I’ll never believe these teams can’t turn a healthy profit spending $120+M on the roster

Very little MLB talent to trade, a bad farm system (arguably Getz’s own doing), and new asinine draft lottery rules…trying to rebuild that is going to be a long difficult road for anyone. Reality is that if at least 2 legit free agent hitters aren’t signed at some point and the payroll doesn’t get back up to $160+M I don’t see how Getz could possibly dig out of this hole in less than 5 years. And I’m not even trying to defend Getz. I never thought he should have gotten the job to begin with. Just important to acknowledge how dire the situation really is.

Crazy how 1 second you’re discussing trading for a top prospect and then you blink and he’s being signed as a 30 year old minor league free agent.

Sosa, Vargas and Ramos should be given every opportunity to play before a guy like Rojas. Hopefully it will play out that way

I get that, but at the end of the day aren’t the guys he will be sharing a locker room with day in and day out going to determine that level of comfort? The whole not wanting players thing at his meetings thing throws me off a bit. But now that I’m looking at the list of teams in the last article posted I guess it’s not all that weird. And my original post was for sure worded poorly, idiot was too harsh of a word. He for sure should take whatever time and process he wants. Just doesn’t seem like he’s going the typical route is what I was getting at

I can’t tell if this kid is very smart or a complete idiot. Very odd how he’s gone about this whole process. Pretty obvious it’s not about the $, so I wonder what the main sticking point is for him?

Vargas sure, why not Fletcher should have to earn his playing time. There’s still a small part of me that would rather see Colas honestly. And not like Fletcher has significantly better pedigree than DeLoach either. Hopefully 1 of those 3 can step up and earn playing time in RF and we don’t see too much of Tauchman and Slater

The Orioles obsession is getting a little weird…

I think the Sox will be a MUCH more respectable organization and get their act together this coming year…. 55 wins for the over

Mehh sounds like it’s a behind the scenes role doesn’t it? I don’t doubt that Nevin is capable of identifying talent…just as long he’s not the guy being hands on teaching his style of baseball to them.

Damn apparently Cleveland is that hard up for cash that they’re trading Naylor for a draft pick? Also, how the hell did the Yankees not beat this offer instead of signing 37 year old Goldschmidt?

Apples to oranges. Our payroll is so low that Robert’s contract isn’t hindering a single thing. And our roster is so bad that adding prospects that don’t have the potential to make a big impact is almost meaningless. We shouldn’t be looking to move Robert to save money and potentially get slightly closer to mediocre.

REALLY hot take- Benintendi hits something close to .270/.350/.410 and is tradeable (with some $ added) at the deadline for a decent prospect