TheFutureIsNear

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that’s what I want to happen, but that’s what I can definitely see happening. Hopefully that’s just my beaten down brain, but I do also struggle to see a team giving up any kind of “blockbuster: top of the rotation” type package for Crochet. Caba, Abel and Buckholder. I can see something like that being enticing to Getz while also being ideal for the Phillies. And it’s honestly not terrible, but would rely a whole lot on being able to “fix” Abel and get the best out of him. But that also seems to be a Getz theme of his targets.

My prediction: Crochett to Phillies for 3 prospects NOT named Miller, Painter or Crawford

Not really newsworthy, but crazy Dunn is 29 already. Seems like only a few years ago he was a top prospect

Gotta roll the dice sometimes in life…can’t live scared. The only realistic shot the Sox have to be competitive within 5 years (outside of the team being sold) hinges on the return from Robert and Crochet. There’s literally nothing else outside a small handful of prospects. Getting a mediocre return for Robert is going to do nothing to change that.

Unless a team blows him away with an offer I don’t think Getz should be looking to deal Robert this offseason. His value couldn’t possibly be lower. Sure, there’s risk of injury, but it’s not like he could possibly be worse than last year. With getting healthy in the offseason + a whole new coaching staff there’s more reason to believe his value will go up rather than down. I thought trading Cease during the offseason last year was a bad move, Robert would be an even worse.

I wonder if an inter-division trade could happen? Definitely shouldn’t be a deterrent with the Sox and our realistic window of getting back into contention. Detroit and Minny have a few hitting prospect that will work as trade partners. Basically, I think a smaller market team that knows they will never sign a top FA pitcher getting aggressive for Crochet would be ideal for the Sox. Dbacks would be another example

It’s not Nevin and doesn’t seem to be a guy that Jerry/TLR would have pushed. About as happy as a Sox fan can get Venable’s main job isn’t going to be winning baseball games for at least 2 years, but hopefully he’s able to build a positive culture in the clubhouse and bring us up to at least a somewhat modern baseball franchise. Unfortunately Venuables long term future and not being a stepping stone manager relies on Getz being able to make good baseball moves and build a team. Not promising…

Nevin is for sure going to be hire. Probably the only candidate that I had a negative opinion on. Just doesn’t feel like a guy that is going to move this franchise forward out of the Stone Age.

The crazy thing is there really aren’t any big name high $ managers available other than maybe Skip. Is Jerry really going to make this decision based on like $500k savings? And as soon as I typed that I realized it was a dumb rhetorical question. Of course he will.

Skip left the Marlins because he didn’t want to be part of a full rebuild with a new GM. What makes you think he was ever going to come to the Sox? All the rumors are saying he’s waiting until ‘26 for the right opportunity to open up

The Sox having a historically bad season and then being sold with the intention of being moved sounds like an appropriate Old Yeller like ending to my Sox fandom. But hey, ‘05 was fun.

A national media guy isn’t going to be aware of a managerial interview? Could be wrong, but doesn’t seem likely. Wouldn’t a potential manager’s agent want that public for his client? I also could say you have a lot more faith in the Sox competence to keep an apparent secret (no idea why it would be) from leaking. No way they have everything in that tight of order. I’m not saying there has to be a grand conspiracy behind this. They just might not have conducted interviews YET.

Has there been a single report of an interview happening though? I know is still a little early with the playoffs still going on, but I feel like we would have heard SOMETHING if an interview occurred. Hell, if it was a different franchise we would probably know the flight # the potential coach flew in on.

Obviously no one is going to be able to turn bad players into good players, but a manager can definitely bring a culture shift to the locker room and dugout. That’s really the most important part, bringing in someone that is going to change the way this team has been doing things for a decade +.

And what value was that? At best you were trading him for the hitting version of himself…a lotto ticket that hasn’t realized any minor league success. Every organization has 5 Mena’s, never was, nor ever will be, a legit prospect. Takeout the undeserved early promotions and no one cares about Mena

Christian Mena continues to be the most over hyped prospect without ever actually producing on the field. Don’t get me wrong, I get that Fletcher has little, if any, value…but robbery implies that you gave something up of value. We’ll see if Mena ever adds value to a major league roster

There will always be an option for a 26 year old former top 10 pick. Not saying he’s going to be handed a starting job, but you’re also only looking at it from 1 perspective. You don’t think Vaughn wants a fresh start from this hell hole of an organization?

Why on earth would Vaughn choose to come back if he’s DFA’d? Why wouldn’t Houston (or any other team) sign him for $2M if that’s all it takes? It’s DFA Vaughn and say your goodbyes OR overpay him by $4M(ish) for 1 more year and pray for a miracle with a new coaching staff. Like I said, I don’t really care either way, but I don’t see a world where an in between exists.

Vaughn stinks and isn’t worth $6M…but there is still a 1 in a million “what if” chance he figures something out. I don’t think you can say the same for any of the alternatives. And I don’t care if Jerry saves $3-4M on the bottom shelf budget. Not like that $ is going to be used productively. Don’t get me wrong, I won’t be sad if Vaughn goes, but the $ part of it is meaningless to me

Rodney Linares is a name that fits somewhere in between up-and-comer and coaching staff lifer that I like. Son of a former player and coach that started out with the Astro’s as an instructor at the age of 21. Has been with 2 stellar organizations in the Astros and Rays in a variety of ways from Minor league Manager, 3rd base coach, and bench coach. Also managed the DR in the WBC.

So lower body soft tissue injuries are preventing him from making contact with a baseball?…For the majority of his career? Also, he’s a grown man and a professional athlete. Does he not take any responsibility for keeping his body ready to perform? There’s plenty of other guys in the organization that haven’t had the injuries he’s had. More or less just Robert, TA and Yoan that have had constant soft tissue injuries…and that’s not great company

As much as I want to blame the Sox for everything, I’m not sure how plate discipline and pitch recognition is on the coaches after a certain point. Robert’s lack of on base ability is actually pretty impressive. Take out his great, yet short, stretch in 2021 and Robert’s career OBP is like .305 in 1600+ PA’s…just can’t have sustained success like that and eventually it’s on him to figure it out. But of course I do think the Sox are to blame for some of his troubles, I just don’t like taking away accountability from a professional not doing their job

3 year deal starting now. Figure out what 2 years of Arb is worth + fair amount in year 3. Guessing somewhere between 40-45M for 3 years? Again, I don’t think this will actually happen. Just could make sense for both sides.

I could maybe see a 3 year deal happening. Crochet wanting to cash in now to guarantee his long term future incase of injury makes sense. He would still hit free agency before 30 with a 3 year deal. Who knows if the 2 sides could agree to a # that works for both tho. Most likely not given that Jerry won’t want to spend more than ever after a year of down attendance.