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And what value was that? At best you were trading him for the hitting version of himself…a lotto ticket that hasn’t realized any minor league success. Every organization has 5 Mena’s, never was, nor ever will be, a legit prospect. Takeout the undeserved early promotions and no one cares about Mena

Christian Mena continues to be the most over hyped prospect without ever actually producing on the field. Don’t get me wrong, I get that Fletcher has little, if any, value…but robbery implies that you gave something up of value. We’ll see if Mena ever adds value to a major league roster

There will always be an option for a 26 year old former top 10 pick. Not saying he’s going to be handed a starting job, but you’re also only looking at it from 1 perspective. You don’t think Vaughn wants a fresh start from this hell hole of an organization?

Why on earth would Vaughn choose to come back if he’s DFA’d? Why wouldn’t Houston (or any other team) sign him for $2M if that’s all it takes? It’s DFA Vaughn and say your goodbyes OR overpay him by $4M(ish) for 1 more year and pray for a miracle with a new coaching staff. Like I said, I don’t really care either way, but I don’t see a world where an in between exists.

Vaughn stinks and isn’t worth $6M…but there is still a 1 in a million “what if” chance he figures something out. I don’t think you can say the same for any of the alternatives. And I don’t care if Jerry saves $3-4M on the bottom shelf budget. Not like that $ is going to be used productively. Don’t get me wrong, I won’t be sad if Vaughn goes, but the $ part of it is meaningless to me

Rodney Linares is a name that fits somewhere in between up-and-comer and coaching staff lifer that I like. Son of a former player and coach that started out with the Astro’s as an instructor at the age of 21. Has been with 2 stellar organizations in the Astros and Rays in a variety of ways from Minor league Manager, 3rd base coach, and bench coach. Also managed the DR in the WBC.

So lower body soft tissue injuries are preventing him from making contact with a baseball?…For the majority of his career? Also, he’s a grown man and a professional athlete. Does he not take any responsibility for keeping his body ready to perform? There’s plenty of other guys in the organization that haven’t had the injuries he’s had. More or less just Robert, TA and Yoan that have had constant soft tissue injuries…and that’s not great company

As much as I want to blame the Sox for everything, I’m not sure how plate discipline and pitch recognition is on the coaches after a certain point. Robert’s lack of on base ability is actually pretty impressive. Take out his great, yet short, stretch in 2021 and Robert’s career OBP is like .305 in 1600+ PA’s…just can’t have sustained success like that and eventually it’s on him to figure it out. But of course I do think the Sox are to blame for some of his troubles, I just don’t like taking away accountability from a professional not doing their job

3 year deal starting now. Figure out what 2 years of Arb is worth + fair amount in year 3. Guessing somewhere between 40-45M for 3 years? Again, I don’t think this will actually happen. Just could make sense for both sides.

I could maybe see a 3 year deal happening. Crochet wanting to cash in now to guarantee his long term future incase of injury makes sense. He would still hit free agency before 30 with a 3 year deal. Who knows if the 2 sides could agree to a # that works for both tho. Most likely not given that Jerry won’t want to spend more than ever after a year of down attendance.

I know nothing about the guy, but the resume seems good enough. Although “never being associated with the White Sox organization” is the clear #1 priority

Eloy, TA, Moncada…remember when we thought we had the start of an amazing core? Crazy that isn’t possible all 3 of them won’t be able to find a job on a MLB roster next year.

Yeah I’ll take an attempt at humor (could have been much better) over keeping the status quo as if something insanely bad isn’t happening Also nothing worse than seeing the few good moments of the season posted to social media. Really not necessary to post about an Andrew Benintendi HR while the team is in the midst of a 2-17 streak. Read the room

Maybe this is ignorant, but is it normal to hire a guy named David to handle international scouting? I get that this is probably a desk job with scouts bringing him info, but I would still think someone more familiar with Latin American baseball would make sense. Then again I of course couldn’t name a single person with this position in other organizations so maybe it’s not abnormal

Definitely C. Especially for Peavy, he clearly wasn’t going to come out and trash the organization unprovoked. Even in this he was still saying how much he liked the people in the organization despite them being bad at their jobs. And articles like the Athletic? If you give people a reason to dig they will find stuff. And quite frankly, no one should be quiet about the utter disaster this organization is. JR deserves to be embarrassed.

I ALMOST feel bad for Pedro. Don’t get me wrong, he was obviously vastly under qualified for the job, but what an insanely bad situation to walk into. His agent for sure should have talked him out of this job. He’s going to have a stink on him forever. Which makes me extremely nervous for this off-season…who in their right mind wants to walk into a 4 year (that’s probably generous) rebuild? Any young/1st time coach would be crazy to take the job which means it’s almost definitely going to be a retread/place holder at manager.

I’m just preparing myself for when Kopech is somehow a good starter for the Dodgers next year. Lopez Version 2.0

Francona would be damn near 70 by the time the team even has a shot of competing. Doesn’t make sense for either side. Going to have to be someone that is in it for the long haul and prepared to build a new culture from scratch…which is going to be much easier said than done of course.

Sad state of affairs when I check the box scores and see the Sox win and I’m disappointed. I don’t think it’s possible, but these jerks better not rob us of the record season. I want the embarrassment for everyone involved

Rodney Linares is the guy they should go after. But he may have other options, which pretty much eliminates us

They need to just give up on him his a starter. Stick him in the big league pen next year and see if he survives. If not just move on. He’s about to be 26, pretty much in “lost cause” territory.

Curious to see if he can continue the high level D in CF with Robert out now. A .700 OPS (still a big IF he’s capable) and strong CF D is actually a pretty useful player

The most sickening thing about this whole disaster is the fact that we are going to get the 10th pick in the draft after having to suffer through this nightmare MLB should be making rules that specifically hurt garbage owners like Jerry. Instead they made a rule that saves him $ on a draft pick and further punishes the fans. Hit Jerry where it hurts him the most, his wallet. Or force the clown to sell (I know that will never happen). Instead, they made a rule that will make it even harder for the team to pull out of this tail spin. And Jerry still won’t give a s%*#. Unbelievable. Forget there being a light at the end of the tunnel, there is no tunnel. This franchise is buried 6 feet under until Jerry is the same…and even then it will still be a long road back.

Yeah I’d happily take Hahn back over Getz any day. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s a good GM. There were for sure A LOT of bad moves, but there were some good ones as well. Going into 2020 this team was set up with a good amount of young talent that SHOULD have worked out. Organizational failure to develop players is probably the #1 issue for this team’s demise. Moncada, Robert, Vaughn, TA, Kopech, Cease, Lopez, Gio (probably missing some)…I don’t think anyone saw all of those players failing in some way or another. And I don’t know how that was the GM’s fault. But again, there were definitely bad moves and Hahn deserved to be fired…but he for sure had the team looking like it was going in a very good direction at 1 point. Given Getz’s track record of identifying talent (and his poor job of directing the minors) to acquire so far I have pretty much 0 faith in his ability to ever get us close to that point.

Flexen quickly says hold my beer…I’ll show you how to lose games