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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 11:10 PM) I do think Saladino at least has a chance, whereas I knew Conor had no chance. Saladino has a chance to be a great glove .250 hitter. He's one of our many candidates for 2B where .250 could be acceptable with a great glove. I kind of agree and disagree. Agree Saladino has a chance to be a great glove and .250 hitter but he will be a SS or 3B with his glove, range and arm strength. To me, its obvious Sanchez is the 2B for at least next season to see how his bat progresses which plays up just fine at second. Imo, Sanchez has GG potential at second so if he can hit .250 or better combined with his glove and youth (23), he sticks at second.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 06:12 AM) excellent, i was thinking of pretty much the same thing. coop has the rep of being some what difficult with a salty vocabulary. that is if i remember correctly on how he has been described. but still the grave has been dug, when it was said he disappointed he was not traded. oh well still offer his a QO, it is a win / win situations. It might be more like win/lose. Sox get to offer the QO and Shark bait rejects therefore the Sox get the comp pick, WIN! Shark hitting free agency with a comp pick attached after he s*** the bed in his last season before free agency that has numerous better pitching options, huge LOSS for Shark bait. From my Sox fandom perspective, Shark screwing himself over like he has would be its own compensation to the Sox for making a bad trade in the first place. Please let this all be true. Thinking back to sharks comments before the deadline, Kaplan just might be correct on this one.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 06:22 PM) Agree 100%. If they're not ROY candidates from the start, they suck or are backups. Guys can never improve. Look at the aforementioned Dozier. His first year, 84 games, he hit .234 with .271/.332/.603 line in 316 plate appearances. Saladino's number are pretty similar through 147 plate appearances at .233/.270/.326/.599 That's just it, too many fans are willing to write off young players if they do not produce right away. Most players struggle while they adapt to major league pitching so Saladino is no different. I'm not saying Saladino is the future for years and years to come but I'm not going to write him off based on less than 200 plate appearances. The Sox were getting horrible defense and hitting from 3B before Saladino so at least the defensive part has improved. He can also play good SS which is good since Alexei is aging and showing some regression. I really am happy to have Saladino.

Zangari with a 2B in his first ab for GF.

If true, this is good news. Good f***ing riddance Shark Bait and don't let the door hit you on your way out. Offer the QO and let him reject it so we can all move on.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 06:55 PM) Carson Fulmer is really good Nice outing indeed. No walks and threw 30 of 44 pitches for strikes. Well done Carson. QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:15 PM) Will the real Viceido please stand up. Nice!

Hell of a come back by the offense. Well done White Sox!

Happy to see the Sox get Johnson some starts. Been a long tough season for Sox starting pitching and a six man rotation for September is a smart move by the Sox, imo. Hopefully Johnson pitches well and makes it easy for the Sox to walk away from Samardzija this winter.

Man, the SoxTalk scouts are out in full force with their reports of writing off Saladino and Sanchez. Pessimism is a never ending swirl down the baseball toilet. Uh oh, seems the TP has run out too! Ohhhh s***!

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 11:02 PM) Man when did half the posts on this board just become complaining? It's been going on for a bit now and I understand losing will do that but I hear where you're coming from. It's just better to turn and walk away rather than get caught up in it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 07:48 AM) 5pm (PT), so 7pm Chicago. And they moved the game to Surprise Stadium because the field at Papago is messed up. Thanks for the update NorthSide. My wife used to live in Phoenix and she said it doesn't rain much but when it does its a monsoon so I guess it's no surprise the field is messed up.

Anyone know what time the AZL Sox game resumes? I looked around but did not find anything but its pretty early in the morning yet.

Nature can be so cruel. Hopefully the storms pass and the AZL Sox can win this one.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 09:16 PM) What I would specifically say is that those who didn't think the White Sox would spend lots of money last offseason thought that because they were of the opinion that the White Sox could spend about $30 million or so in new money at most and that would not be nearly enough to turn them into a competitive team. The White Sox spent about $25 million in additional money. Basically the numbers wound up right where they thought. The Sox payroll last year was just over $90 million, give or take, and Forbes had them making $30 million. They basically spent exactly what the Forbes numbers said they had available. That also fit very well with where they wound up in 2013 and 2012; if you've followed the money this team has spent, watched the ticket sales go down, and then counted the extra $25 million they got in TV money starting in 2014, you'd get within $5 million or so of what they actually spent. They could decide to go into the red, but they have very little history of doing so. That's all we can say - for them to spend additional money, they would be crossing a line they have previously refused to cross. Heck of a post and thanks for the insight Balta. You are better at breaking this stuff down than I am, that's for sure. So in the end, Sox fans really shouldn't get their hopes up? Unless of course a few GM's fall off their rockers and decide they want to trade for Danks/ LaRoche?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 09:23 PM) Huh? Having a guy like Olt on the roster would not stop them from being able to upgrade the position in the offseason. If they claimed him soon and kept him into the offseason and they ended up trading Q in a deal for a young 3B MLB ready player, for example), then Olt can be dfa'd. And I agree about Saladino at short. Cheap stop-gap as opposed to picking up Alexei's option and I've been pushing for this. Or the Sox can just not bother with Olt in the first place. Sorry, just cannot get on board with the idea of of acquiring a 27 year old AAAA player that has failed every time he's been given a chance in the majors. Over all, Gillaspie has had more success in the majors and most Sox fans could not wait for his time in Chicago to be over with. IMO. Saladino at 3B with Alexei at SS is better than Saladino at SS and Olt at 3B.

AZL Sox game now under way and the Sox are leading 1-0. Zavala 1-1 2B RBI.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) Add a triple to that list. Very nice! I'm really looking forward to seeing what Anderson and May do next year setting the table for Charlotte. Man, that ALOT of speed at the top of the order.

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 08:19 PM) i totally agree with you, there are options out there. it all depends on how creative the fo wants to be. btw..... here is a question..... i been reading up on Gary Sanchez from the yanks. it seems as he has some baggage.... any thoughts???? Baggage? I have not heard about that, not that I can recall but I do not doubt what you say. Maybe I've been too focused on his arm and power. What have you been reading about him?

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) in a way i agree. i would rather see saladino really get a try out at 3b. but then again, in this time, he has shown to me, that he can handle the position he is playing. claim him, and don't play him until spring. I see what you're saying. I just prefer to not use a roster spot on Olt in hopes maybe the Sox get a 3B over the winter to compete with Saladino in ST next year. Maybe (hopefully) even find a permanent 3B and give Saladino a shot at SS.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 07:30 PM) Was this caused by Cubs signing RP Rodney? I think it's from the cubs picking up Austin Jackson from Seattle.

Anderson with a 2B SB R

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) Crabbe pitching instead of Montas. Figure Montas is on his way up here now. Makes sense since Montas was already called up earlier this year. Maybe spending some time with Cooper will help. Micah not in the lineup for Charlotte, no surprise. Micah and Erik are probably sitting next to each on their flight to Minny.

Much prefer to stick with Saladino and see what he can do for the rest of the season.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) Ok, let's say we do have a lot of money to play with (which we won't, thanks to Balta for explaining)... it's not like there are any lucrative free agents on the market for us. Heyward and Upton are overrated and will be extremely overpaid by a big market team IMO I absolutely agree about Heyward and Upton but there are other free agents that could help too. The Sox can look at trade possibilities too and not trades that empty the farm either. An exchange of bad contracts (Danks, LaRoche) is certainly a possibility and Hahn has mentioned that a few times throughout the season. Maybe there's a team or two willing to take on one year of Danks or LaRoche since the risk is only for one season. I'm not counting on it but crazier things have happened. Since none of us work for the FO we don't know anything about the Sox budgets or their plans this off season so I will not rule anything out. Many on this board did not think the Sox would acquire the players they did last winter and yet they did. Things did not go according to plan this year but that doesn't mean the Sox will stop trying. Way to early to write off the off season on the last day of August.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 03:45 PM) I don't get why you, and other posters here, think that. It's not like we have that much money to spend, and the FA market (outside of starting pitching, which we don't really need) is unattractive. Waving goodbye to Samardzija saves 9.8M right of the bat. Looking at the contracts, there is potential for the Sox to save a few bucks here and there which can add up. I agree with LDF that this off season will be a very interesting one. The Sox will have some room to work with. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensa...cago-white-sox/