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QUOTE (gatnom @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 06:25 PM) He's still a >2 WAR pitcher. He still has value even if it's not worth what he thinks it is. He could just as easily destroy his value next year by sucking as he could rebuild it by rebounding a bit. For a guy who will turn 31 next year, it would be crazy not to take the maximum total dollars he can get this off season IMO. That's the thing, it won't be easy for him to maximize total dollars with the plethora of pitching available combined with the season he's had and will be 31. In a sense he has already screwed himself by rejecting the cubs offer and going for FA all the while s***ting the bed in his last year before FA. I guess what I'm saying is, his value is already in the process of being destroyed. The best hope he has at maximizing his value is to take the QO and hope like hell he can rebound and hit paydirt after the 2016 season. That said, I really hope he rejects the QO and is able to sign elsewhere. I cannot wait to be done with Samardzija.

QUOTE (gatnom @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 04:51 PM) Even if it's lower AAV, I can't imagine a guy in his 30's wouldn't take the guaranteed money he would get with a multi year contract. With so many quality FA pitchers available, Samardzija just might need to take the QO in an effort to rebuild his value to get the big contract he seeks. Right now, he's not even worth the 5/90M he rejected from the cubs.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) Can we resign Samardjiza to a friendly contract and then trade him? Yeah I would like that best. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) My guess is he takes the one year QO, unless he goes on a hella run the last two months. Extend the QO. If Samardzija rejects, that's fine, take the comp pick. If he accepts, the Sox can trade him over the winter or the 2016 trade deadline. The only downside to him accepting is that the QO will cost somewhere around 16M+ , which is kind of expensive for a pitcher that's basically an innings eater at this point. If for some reason Samardzija accepts, I really hope another team is willing to take a chance on Danks for one season. This would open up a slot for EJ. Shaping up to be a rather interesting winter.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 09:54 AM) The Killer Z's I like it! QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) We need to make that Killer Z's thing stick. Absolutely.

Zangari 2-5 2R 2RBI Zevala 2-4 2B 3B RBI R

Spencer line tonight: 4.1IP 8H 4ER 2BB 4K f*** it, bad days happen. Cody Daily with a 2B for Kanny.

Looks like Adams is taking one on the chin tonight, ouch. Basto and Engel with solo HR's for Winston.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 05:02 PM) All that's left for me then is what other team has gotten swept in two 4 game series in the same year and when? I think if Sox lose tnight Robin should be fired. That would be an 0-8 record in a pair of 4 game series. You can't win divisions doing s*** like that. Team is too erratic. What good is a damn draft pick? It's not like the Sox are close to winning anything with draft picks. Are you seriously asking this question or joking around?

Sale has 9 starts left in the season so he would have to go on another run to get the 92 K's to put him at 300. That's just a tick over 10 K's per start which he is capable of so who knows. At least Sale gives us fans something interesting to watch while the rest of the season unwinds.

Good to see Adams back in Winston. Keep it up Spencer.

Lmao at the Angels impersonation of the Sox offense. Bases loaded, nobody out, a struggling pitcher on the mound and he gets out of it. Nice job Samardzija.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 08:00 PM) I'd be more willing to consider it if people weren't bringing up things like "Quintana" for him. If we're going to take him it's because Boston is dropping him for much less than what he's worth. While you say "he can still rake", he's been a negative value player this year and that can't be ignored. There is a solid chance he'll recover next year, but there is also a solid chance that his bat will slowly decline from here while his glove gets worse from here. If Boston was throwing in lots of money then I could maybe be convinced to give up the kind of deal for him the White Sox gave up for Samardzija, a deal where we sacrifice more of our thin minor league depth for him, or maybe clear out something like Robertson, but I'm not going to give up top flight pieces even if Boston is chipping in a lot of money, given that risk, and Boston IMO isn't likely to dump him for such little value that I'd be interested unless they are 100% convinced he's finished. Seriously man. What is with Q's name always being thrown around? I remember when Sox fans were willing to trade Q for Jason Castro less than two years ago.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Nope. He was an above average defensive shortstop 2 years ago and an acceptable one last year. There's little to suggest he couldn't handle third base. I'm not arguing that Hanley's without warts or even that this is the best solution. More arguing against dumb counterarguments at this point. With a team that has been deficient offensively and in need of upgrades at least somewhere, and with a glut of middle infield options under control, and with the virtual non-existence of catchers who can hit, so far I've seen the suggestion of no human who could/should play 3rd base for the White Sox in 2016 other than Tyler Saladino. Anybody who is smart and often has interesting things to say have any other possible thoughts? Eminor? Anyone? So a good idea is to plug the 3B hole with an aging veteran like Ramirez that has not played 3rd consistently since 2012? You're asking for suggestions to a problem that involves trading for another teams player that we do not know is available. I can throw Chase Headley's name out there as a viable solution to the Sox 3B hole but how viable is that solution if the Yanks want to keep Headley? You are correct in saying there's nothing to suggest Ramirez cannot play 3B but there's nothing to suggest he can either. I'm not against having Ramirez bat in the lineup, just not in favor of his salary nor am I willing to take a chance on his glove at 3B. Ramirez turning 32 in December does not help his case either. I would rather have Saladino at 3B with Hanley at DH than LaRoche at DH and Hanley at 3B.

Unless Boston is willing to pay a majority of Ramirez's contract, no thanks. Also, Ramirez would have to DH as there is no way he should play 3B. Thankfully, Boston is stuck with that bad contract.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 07:20 PM) Call him up to the majors. September 2016! Delmonico HR BB 2RBI

Anderson with 3SB on the day and a BB! That's right, a BB!

I cannot believe there are Sox fans that want to sign Samardzija. I'm counting the days until his departure.

Jordan Guerrero with 6 shut out innings so far, 7 K's too. Exit: make that 7 shut out innings.

Add Flowers to that list.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) Thing is, while it's tempting to let all the arms develop and have them pitch on the big league club, there's only so many spots. They need to start trading some pitching depth to get hitters. Yes, this right here. ^ Just taking a guess but I'd bet we see some minor league trades this winter that swap pitching for hitting talent. If the Sox cannot fit Micah Johnson into the mix then I'd trade him for some kind of 3B, C or RF talent. Going by comments made at the trade deadline, the Sox seem to have certain minor leaguers on a no-trade list. Namely Anderson, Montas, Adams and Fulmer appear to be the players. After those three pitchers I think any other pitching talent could be traded for some hitting. I assume the Sox keep Erik Johnson to take Samardzija's rotation spot in 2016 as well.

Viciedo's playing 1B tonight. Viva LaRochiedo!

QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 10:47 PM) What an incredible stat line from Matt Cooper's last 10 games: 13.2 IP, 3H, 1BB, 0ER, 31K. That's just ridiculous, in a good way. I think it's time to find room for Cooper on the Winston roster.

Lmao. Matt Cooper 2IP 0H 1BB 6K.

Bad night for Montas. 3.1IP 6H 4ER 4BB 0K.

Terry Bevington as manager, Oney Guillen for bench coach, Jaime Navarro for pitching coach, Joe Borchard for hitting coach and Mike Caruso for base running coach.