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Rodon cannot be traded ...

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 12:30 PM) Mess up on the box score I think... He went 3 innings, 3 K's, 2 hits, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts and didn't allow a run. Yes sir. I just checked back and said whaaaatt? It changed! Lol.

Rodon. 4IP 4 hits 1 ER 1BB 4K

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 08:44 PM) jake peter promoted to WS apparently So is Peter going to battle DeMichele?

Assuming both players stay healthy, a starting pitcher can only help their team win for roughly 33 games per year but a hitter can help 150+ plus games per year. The hitter has more opportunities to help the team so its a matter of odds so I chose Abreu.

I cannot believe this thread has made it twenty pages. I think maybe theres a few former captains of high school debate teams along with a few lawyers.

I like the idea of giving Sierra more at bats. Avi will be coming back and one of ADA,Tank or Sierra has to go which I'm pretty sure it will be ADA. Give Sierra at bats and let him determine his future with the Sox.

Wait, Davidson has clearly regressed at Charlotte and he's being penciled into the lineup next year? Come on guys!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) As a professional baseball organization, there is no good reason for them to give away players that they are still paying. If we had superior replacements available, that would be one thing. We don't. I'll just go ahead and agree to disagree.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 07:10 PM) When you DFA somebody, you pay them 100% of the salary they are owed but don't play for you. The only reason you do this is because you absolutely positively need their roster spot for somebody else. If the Sox decide they really want Semien to start playing over Beckham, they can option LGarcia to the minors, or perhaps Paulie gets a mystery DL trip until rosters expand September 1. Beckham is still hitting lefties very well, and if nothing else, he can platoon with Gillaspie at 3B. How can we expect Connor to hit lefties if he's platooned with Beckham? Now that's taking experience away from Connor and I'm sure we all agree Connor could use the at bats against lefties. Connor has improved over last season. Connor has an actual future with the Sox but not with Bacon. This team is rebuilding so it makes sense to get your future players at bats and not the has beens. Holding onto Beckham, ADA and Dunn gains nothing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 06:51 PM) None of those three will be DFA'd. None. Gordo and ADA might be non-tendered at the end of the year. That is as close as it would come. I guess we will find out. Barring the miracle of trades, I just don't see why the Sox wouldnt . I was looking at Bacon and Semien's stats on baseball reference and there very very little difference between what Semien gave the Sox and what Bacon is doing now. Difference is Semien could be gaining valuable experience while giving the Sox literally the same production.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 05:11 PM) He could dump Beckham's sorry ass at least. What a joke this deadline was. DFA the sorry sonf of a b**** Ultimately I think Dunn, Beckham and ADA end up DFA'd. I just don't see any takers. I know I wouldn't want them. As for the deadline, not too surprised since the Sox were essentially trying to acquire something for pretty much nothing.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 04:56 PM) We are rebuilding, have a string of injuries and are in the WC hunt. We also signed the ROTY and a possible MVP candidate. Hahn sucks. Seriously! Its not Hahn's fault these players aren't worth their contracts.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 04:49 PM) I still think the Sox pick up a little of Dunn's salary and get a live arm. I could also legitimately seeing them re-sign him too (or attempting to) and keeping him in this platoon situation. De Aza and Beckham, yeah, they're not much more than bench fodder at this point. Hope you're right about Dunn my man! If you are, I swear TUC and I should send a bunch of Chicago style pizzas your way!

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 01:08 PM) This thread is kind of ridiculous. Of course RH wants to get rid of these players. It is obsurd that you would say he failed the organization if he doesn't dump those salalaries. THEY ARE ALL PLAYERS NOT DESERVING OF THEIR CONTRACTS. Why would anyone want that? I don't see any of them getting traded today. Put them all on waivers in August and see what happens. Hopefully we can get rid of a couple of them and bring up some youngins to play the last month or two. This sums it up. If Dunn, ADA and Beckham cannot be traded then just flat out release them and move on. I think Sox fans have to finally realize the lack of value in the players they wanted traded.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 12:07 PM) If the White Sox thought they could get out from under Danks' deal, he wouldn't be pitching today. And yet scouts are in Detroit to see Danks pitch. Again, there are better pitchers on the market that teams are after and as those pitchers move, interest in Danks could pick up. Another thing is this would not be speculated if the Sox had a usual 6pm start time in Detroit. Teams are still dealing while Danks goes to the mound 3 hours prior to the deadline. One more point is that Danks start will likely be finished before the deadline which will give teams and their scouts one last chance to see him pitch before an offer is made. None of this means a trade will happen, just that a trade remains possible.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) Bruce Levine Multiple scouts still taking in John Danks start in Detroit today . https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/494881049302671361 There's still life to a Danks trade. Wonder what teams the scouts rep? Yanks I'm sure.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:59 AM) I am still incredibly interested in why the Sox were scouting the BoSox system. Could Boston be interested in Tank?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) The Sox have to scratch Danks, don't they, if they have any interest in making a deal. Not this close to game time. He's been warming up for a while now so all signs point to Danks starting this game.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:55 AM) John Danks is the poster child for "incremental upgrade, not a big piece." Add Tank to that mix as well. Come on Yanks, wtf!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:45 AM) I don't think they are the same markets. It's like people shopping for a Rolls vs. people shopping for a Chevy. Danks will be able to be moved after today, if that is what it comes down to. I think the speculation about teams' interest in him probably had to do with a little BS and a lot of having the White Sox eat enough money it doesn't make sense to trade him. I see what you're saying and they are definitely in different markets. I'm thinking more in terms of teams preferences and/or priorities. As guys like Lackey ( done deal) and Price are moved then the focus could shift to Danks rather quickly. Also agree on the bs part. Both the Sox and sports writers could be doing there PR to shake the tree.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:38 AM) If we get back an arm like Maurer then I'm okay with trading Tank. The next are worthless, won't bring in jack especially Dunn. We'll pay his entire salary in August and then he'll get a Jon Link or something, whoopie. But just think (salivating) at how awesome we'd be in the reverse standings should our OF consist of Danks-Eaton-Sierra with Andy Wilkins as the DH, Taylor as the 4th OF, Marcus Semien at 2B and a rotation of Sale-Q-Carroll-Noesi-Reclamation project/Triple A garbage. Man we would rocket up those reverse standings quick. s*** may as well dump Bellisario too on someone so that Taylor Thompson can see more time, wow what an arm that kid has (sarcasm). Hell, the Sox might then make a run at Boston for a top 5 pick next year! What surprises me is the supposed interest in Rios. IMO, Tank would be a better option seeing as how Rios has done nothing this year and carries a hefty salary when compared to his production,or lack thereof. I'm thinking Beckham, ADA and Dunn are very realistic DFA candidates.

I think we should keep in mind that pitchers like Lackey and Price likely get moved first before teams are forced to fall back on looking at Danks. There are still better pitchers available at the moment.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) Yep. Although I'm not sure I want to see a fatigued John Danks out there on the mound for us in the dog days of August trying to "build trade value" as that just sounds like a recipe for disaster. Hopefully by the time we hit the deadline he's gone. Beckham too, that would be nice. We lose those twio today, even if we get back nothing we can call this thing a win. Don't stop there. Dunn, ADA and Tank would be nice as well. I don't hold high hopes but one can dream, right?

Yeah,its looking like Danks will at least make this start. Who knows what happens from there. If Danks were to be pulled after say, 3/4 innings he could still start for his new team as soon as Sunday I'm guessing.