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I like the Drabek idea a lot. I'm tired of reclamation projects but Drabek's stuff combined with Cooper's eye is intriguing. Drabek does have sick movement.

I can see him as a reliever but in the Sox rotation, no. Tired of reclamation projects.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 12:09 PM) A high 2nd round draft choice as a relief pitcher? Stranger things have happened. The Raiders drafted a field goal kicker in the first round.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) Has it been determined if he is going to start or relieve? From what I've read, scouts like his upside as a starter so I'd guess the Sox stick with him starting and see how he performs.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) You guys remind me of the Westerosi south of the wall ignoring the carnage about to erupt. Surkamp is coming. Surkamp is a 26 year old career minor league pitcher that has more hits than innings pitched and a 4.54 ERA to boot. I fail to see why we should be excited. If anything it shows how desperate our pitching staff is need of potential help, any help.

Curious when Spencer Adams will make his debute for AZL. Maybe today?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 04:38 PM) This should be the goal. No reason to hover around .500 when you have the chance to unload again and draft another quality class of players. This just might be the case with the way things are going right now. I won't cheer for another high draft pick but I have accepted the fact they may have another one next year.

Lol. If the Sox do make some trades, they could end up with another top five pick in the 2015 draft.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 09:31 AM) The question is "can we get in enough due diligence to properly assess the risk and upside?" It's much harder with younger guys than with vets, but like SS2k5 said, I'll give the Sox the benefit of the doubt here. The biggest bust so far is $10m or whatever to Viciedo, and while he's bad, he's at least a ML player. If the scouts say the kid is worth the risk, that's cool with me. I have much more faith in the Sox scouting than in years past.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 09:16 AM) That is pretty much what everyone does. Most relief pitchers go with the number 1 and 2 pitches exclusively. Most of the time that is why they are in the pen. The obvious advantage here is that he could work with Cooper, Thigpen and Salas on the change up if he was with the Sox. Look what the change up has done for Sale's game. Rodon, take note!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 09:19 AM) Given the Sox record with Cubans, if they spend it, I will be OK with it. they have earned the benefit of the doubt from me. Exactly. Would rather risk money on younger talent than middle aged vets.

Get on it Rick!

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 08:43 AM) Not can't. If they offered him slot value, he'd sign eventually. It would be insanity if he didn't. OK, I see. If the Sox are offering slot value ( im sure they are) and Rodon is willing to accept slot or a tick above, then this really is a non issue. Just need to be patient. I really don't see Rodon turning away from 6M, Boras or not.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 08:30 AM) Failing to sign Rodon would signify a mega failure on the White Sox front office. Failure as in the Sox drafting a guy in the first round they can't sign?

I think Wite is spot on with the Rodon/Borass business. Let's face it, the Sox really are in a better position. If Rodon walks, he carries this draft baggage with him next year and has to try to improve upon a #3 draft status. The Sox would get the #4 pick next year plus they are currently a top ten team for next years draft which could leave them with two top ten picks in 2015. Two top ten picks for a rebuilding team combined with negotiating with Boras might enough for the Sox to give Boras and Rodon both the finger. Edit: just to clarify. When I say give Boras and Rodon the finger, Im saying draw a line in the sand and not budge. I really think Rodon has more to lose than the Sox.

Sanchez homers again? Davidson, meet your new power hitting instructor Carlos Sanchez. I noticed Brett Austin in Kanny's lineup tonight. Good to see some of the draft picks getting started.

As long as the Sox have two gaping holes in the rotation there's no way you trade Danks. Stick with trading Beckham, an outfielder or Alexei if the offer is too good to pass but keep Danks. We can't fill the two holes that are open right now, how the hell does creating another void help this team? What? Trade Danks and sign a more expensive Shields and still have two holes to fill? Come on.

Wouldn't the point of trading for an outfielder be to upgrade that position? The Sox have enough scraps already.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 09:01 PM) Beer has everything to do with anything and anything to do with everything, and everything to do with everything and anything to do with anything. If Hahn had put a down a couple refreshing Miller High Lifes ™ prior to calling AA (or more realistically, AA calling him) when AA offered the propostion of Matt Tuiassopsopso for several if not many thousands of dollars of cash money, Hahn would have angrily slobbered out something like "f*** you motherf***er you stupid piece of s***!" or something along those lines. As it was he was obviiously drinking that Crappensteiner junk and thought the whole thing was a great idea. I bet his next course of action (after throwing out all of his razors/shaving equipment and resolving to not only grow a massive beard but to buy organic hemp shampoo for it like a total wuss) was to head out to the nearest Nissan dealership to buy a new Nissan Cube ™ to impress all his other heavily-bearded hipster friends he just met at the last Decemberists ™ concert. Next time you see him he'll be in sandals wearing golf pants and he'll be holding his poodle on a leash talking about penguins or some stupid s***. Thats what happens when you drink that crap. Holy f***! Would the poodle's name be Paris Hilton?

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 03:34 PM) Money for humans? Are Hill and Tuiasosopopopop prostitutes? No, just humble slaves. Money for humans is part of the the Trans Pacific Partnership agreement.

Spencer should take the money and start his pro career. If things don't work out he has more than enough bonus money to go to college with.

After 3+ years of b****ing about Dunn and his production, were on the verge from getting out from under his contract to move on and some would consider bringing him back? Oi! Would rather sign Paul Reubens to handle the DH duties. Who knows, maybe we could get Cowboy Curtis in the deal as well.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 07:17 AM) I'll reluctantly buy into the hype of Saladino out of most likely to stick at SS it would be Saladino, Sanchez then Semien in my opinion. He is age appropriate for AAA and he has always had enough tools to be dangerous. For the notion of a "white flag 2.0", I don't buy that and I don't think the fan base would buy that either. Hahn set the expectation that this was going to be a rebuilding year and we would be foolish to hold assets(Ramirez, Beckham, Dunn, Belisario) that would be better served bolstering our minor league rosters with depth and major league ready prospects then be in the hunt for a potential wildcard spot where we could go one and out. I'm sure Hahn will be very active on the offseason as we will need another OF ideally CF or RF and move Garcia to LF. How about this. Move Micah to CF in Charlotte, when Avi comes back his new position will be LF with Eaton and his strong arm going to RF. See how Micah plays out the rest of the season, if it turns out Micah doesn't fit the mold then we trade for a CF this winter.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:06 PM) It was Rock, so the exact poster you'd want to have made that claim ( or bucket, as well) That's who it was, just couldn't remember for the life of me. Rock knows his s***.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) Jokes. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) He's joking QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) The sarcasm detector in this thread is apparently broken. Thought I missed something. QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:57 PM) Raw with upside, no problem with that pick either. Rodon is playing hard to get. Month my ass. Negotiations will start immediately & a shot at MLB time this year is a big deal for anyone. I forget who, but a poster last night said the Sox already had their lawyers on it.