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http://www.southsidesox.com/2013/11/17/511...ite-sox-payroll "During the general managers meetings, Hahn estimated the current payroll at $80 million, so that probably means he's lumping Jose Abreu's $10 million salary bonus as part of the 2014 budget, although only a prorated portion will be accounted for on the official Opening Day payrolls." One more time...

According to the budget it won't happen without alleviating some salary like Danks or Dunn.

Found this at SSS... http://www.southsidesox.com/2013/11/17/511...ite-sox-payroll This tells the tale.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:08 PM) Man f*** that. Losing seasons suck. I don't wanna go through another season like last year and I don't wanna be like the Royals - constantly waiting until "next year" for the young talent to mature enough to compete. No s***! Chicago already has a " wait til next year" team.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:06 PM) If the budget Hahn has quoted is anywhere close to true, their budget this year is about $90-$100 million. They're already at that number. Signing Cano would push them well past their quoted budget. This should alleviate the Granderson talk. Guess all we have is more possible trade speculation/guesstimation.

Didn't think so but thought I would ask.

QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:01 PM) Seriously folks, let's settle down. On December 9th (or whenever his "I'll let you know" date is), the Sox will re-sign Paul Konerko.... so we've got that going for us. Can we sign the Dalai Lama instead? Supposed to be a big hitter what from I hear.

Do the Sox have room in the payroll for Cano?

I would actually like to see this happen as I think it would be a b****-slap to Cano and co. seeing as their asking price was so ridiculous to start with.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 07:22 PM) So why are people freaking out about trades not getting made? Because were like kids at Xmas watching everyone else open their presents but there are no presents for us to open. I'm not knocking us Sox fans as I'm feeling a bit of it myself. As others have said it will take patience on our part while the dust settles. As more FA's sign more players will become available through more trades due to these signings. I definitely sympathize with those that are anxious.

FWIW per MLBTR 6:52pm: Saltalamacchia will get $6MM in 2014, $7MM in '15, and $8MM in '16, according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald (on Twitter)

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 07:00 PM) Seriously. If the Sox major league team sucks so badly, why do any other GMs want them? If the Sox minor league system is so bad, who is going to trade major leaguers for them? Unfortunately the players teams would be most interested in are the same players the Sox are trying to build around. With a possible few exceptions of course.

I think MAYBE the Sox would have been more interested if not for already having players in the lineup that strike out a lot as is. just a guess is all.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 06:18 PM) yawn. ^^ this ^^ Especially after seeing Lobaton threw out 14% of base stealers in 13'. No thanks!

Throwing out 14% of base stealers is far worse than what we already have! Let's hope the rays pitching played a part in that! http://m.bbref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXlXXlobat...andard_fielding

Uhhhgggg! I like a switch hitting catcher but he only threw out 14% of base stealers in 13. OUCH!

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 01:49 PM) Did that article really say our payroll is expected to be in the mid-to-high $80M's range? Yup and basically said nothing we didn't already know. Is Hahn really this stealthy or is there little interest in what is actually available from the Sox? I think the Sox are constipated.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 01:43 PM) I stole it from the popular Spiderman-masturbating memes. Well on a day I feel like utter s***, I thank you for the laugh. Good stuff.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 12:55 PM) All these teams are making moves these past couple weeks while the White Sox just sit there, masturbating. Ha ha this is priceless! Great way of wording it. Cum-on Hahn, blow this wad already and give fans something to talk about!

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 10:57 PM) Going 63-99 the year after AJ leaves, should be an indication of who likely won that argument or "beef". Robin really is not manager material and AJ seems to be getting better with age. (At least offensively) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 11:03 PM) Don't disagree on that, but he still can't be undermining his manager in front of teammates. It's simply a headache and risk not worth taking on a stop-gap player. Agree with ya both here so let's just fire robin!

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 11:00 PM) Sounds reasonable. He's a lefty, younger than I always think he is. I think the Mets will nab Arenciba though. Damn, I just looked up Marson and he's a RHB and the same age as Tyler (27). I'd say youre right about Arencibia being a fit for the Mets, which is good news for Sox fans.:-)

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 10:44 PM) Lol...this is only about what's best for the team. You can't have players openly questioning the manager's decision-making in front of other teammates. It can create rifts in the clubhouse and effect the manager's ability to effectively lead his team. I know, you're right but I have to admit Robin leaves me scratching my head a lot so I guess I can see where AJ would be coming from. AJ does know the game pretty damn well.

Thank for... leaving, that's it! Time for another appreciation thread!

I like the idea too, get it done Hahn!

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 10:22 PM) Seriously! Playing him literally blocks no one, there is no one in the minors coming up. If he was in a strict platoon with Flowers or Phegley, it would be effective. Him on a one year deal (or one year plus option) would be much better than going 4-5 years with Salty. And with a deep draft this year, maybe we end up taking a good catcher in the first couple rounds. It would also be great not giving up anyone from our system to fill the need. Absolutely what I'm thinking too! QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 10:27 PM) Didn't Robin have beef with A.J. while he was here? If so, I don't see any way in hell he's coming back. Who cares? This is about the Sox and not Robin. Robin only coaches the players Hahn gives him to coach and that's it.