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Hinch has a year's suspension to serve. So, in the words of our Hall-of-Fame announcer: "He gawn!"

What would it take to acquire Josh Hader? I know the Yankees picked up 4 lottery tickets from Cleveland for Andrew Miller and 3 lottery tickets and Gleyber Torres from the Cub in 2016. Would Hader make the bullpen too LH? ps: can I fix spell correct so Hader doesn't automatically switch over to Vader?

One of the great what-ifs: What if Kirk Gibson could have stayed healthy? When he came up he looked like the next Mickey Mantle — or Mike Trout.

I saw Dick Allen hit a George Offman-esque "towering," opposite field, line drive off a Royals pitcher (I think it was Paul Splittorf). If the upper deck wasn't in the way, the ball would have sailed onto the Dan-Ryan Expy.

Jim Kern's injury in '83 was one of the most gruesome moments that I have ever witnessed. Thanks for the memory. Rocky Colavito in '67 was one of the most gruesome additions to the White Sox that I have ever witnessed.

We know the price (no pun intended) for pitchers nearing free agency from the Corey Kluber deal: Delino DeShields (White Sox equivalent, Adam Engel or Leury Garcia) Emmanuel Clase (White Sox equivalent Zack Burdi) That's for a pitcher, Kluber, who's turning 34 next year. (I know, Cleveland would have demanded more from the White Sox as a premium for dealing within the division. But that's the basic price. That should be about the price for David Price, if Boston picks up a significant part of the salary. Because he is entering his age 37 season, Happ should cost significantly less. That Boston is asking for Madrigal and Vaughan for Price and Benintendi makes me think that any Price deal is DOA. Happ is an innings eater who would provide some value next year. But there are still some valuable pitchers who could be had via trade: Matt Boyd, Tigers; Robbie Ray, D-backs; Blake Snell, Rays; these are the pitchers I hope that the White Sox are looking to acquire. It's possible that the Yankees could include a couple of prospects if we paid the Kluber price for J.A. Happ — I could see the Yankees having some interest in a versatile player like Leury Garcia. If we were able to flip the prospects we might get from a Yankees trade with Dane Dunning or Jonathan Stiever, we might be able to get one of the better pitchers available in trade.

QUOTE (glangon @ Mar 11, 2016 -> 05:07 AM) 103 wins. La Roche to have a career year. Cabrera to win MVP. Quintana to win the CY Young. Royals to get more suspensions after trying to throw at Lawrie. Cubs to go 82-82. Now who wants to drink my Coolade? I'll shove my chips in. 96 wins in the regular season, 11-2 in the playoffs, and a White Sox World Series Championship. Its March, let's dream big. I'll start sulking mid-May.

The end of the Veeck era was a turbulent time for the Sox. If you google "Marvin Davis to buy the White Sox," you can read about oilman Davis' attempt to buy the White Sox and Comiskey Park, move the Sox to Denver, and lease Comiskey Park to the Oakland A's (probably after Charley Finley sold the A's to a new ownership group). Next came the DeBartolo fiasco—and I apologize that I got the city wrong, it was New Orleans—and finally Veeck sold the club to Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn. You can google "Ed DeBartolo to buy the White Sox" and read articles about that non-sale as well. While Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn have made some mistakes and stepped on some toes over the past 35+ years, they did bring us the 2005 World Series Champions.

When Jerry and Eddie bought the team back in 1981, Bill Veeck was flirting with the idea of selling the Sox to the DeBartolo family. They were going to relocate the Sox to Tampa-St. Pete. So, thank you Eddie Einhorn (and Jerry Reinsdorf) for getting involved, buying the White Sox, and keeping the team in the South Side of Chicago. Rest in peace, Eddie.

Johnny Bench from the 1972 Reds: 8.6 WAR Mickey Mantle from the 1956 or 1957 Yankees: 9.3/9.4 WAR respectively I'll take my chances with the pitching we have if we had those two on the team up the middle. If I have to dump one of the position players for a pitcher, the 1968 Bob Gibson was was-inspiring. I saw him pitch in person (my uncle took me to Wrigley—he was a die-hard Cub fan, what can I say!), and I don't know how the Cubs were able to score a run off him. He was intimidating. If I'm looking for past members of the White Sox, put 1972 Dick Allen (8.6 WAR) at first base and Jose Abreu at DH. For the outfield, how about 1966 Tommie Agee: 6.6 WAR.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 05:53 PM) It def makes sense for rebuilding teams to take on expensive soon to be done deals as long as they get some prospects/young controllable players. I like it from their standpoint as well. Do they still have Sardinas? I assume he would play short. By the middle of 2016, the Brewers shortstop will be Orlando Arcia.

QUOTE (chisox802 @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) Hi everyone, first time poster here. I have been following the board for a long time, never posted though. I think the FO is going to look to make another trade before they sign one of the remaining free agents. I live out in Colorado and the consensus out here is that the Rockies are definitely going to try and move one of their outfielders... While this is nothing new, I think this is the best avenue for our sox. I personally don't want anything to do with any of the remaining free agents (for so many reasons). If we could somehow can swing a deal without giving up Anderson or Fulmer, go for it. I know all of this has been mentioned before, but I think one of the Rockies OFers would be a good fit. I know I am going to get killed with the "split stats" debate..... http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/colorad...e-rumors-012516 Welcome aboard, and thanks for your post. Upgrading in the outfield is not just about improving the offense. The White Sox outfield defense was about as bad as I can remember and I go back to the days of Walt Williams, Buddy Bradford, Ken Berry, and Tommy Agee roaming the old barn in 1967. There are no "split stats" on defense.

Here's a partial list of the veteran outfielders who may be available through trade: Atlanta Braves: Michael Bourn CF, Nick Markakis RF Cincinnati Reds: Jay Bruce RF Col Rockies: Corey Dickerson LF, Charlie Blackmon CF, Carlos Gonzalez RF LA Dodgers: Carl Crawford LF, Andre Ethier RF Miami Marlins: Marcell Ozuna CF Milwaukee: Khris Davis LF, Ryan Braun RF New York Mets: Juan Lagares CF, Curtis Granderson RF Oakland A's: Coco Crisp LF-CF Philadelphia: Peter Bourjos CF San Diego: Matt Kemp RF At this point, I'm more intrigued by Yadiel Hernandez, the free agent out of Cuba. He bats lefty, and he has played both LF and RF (although I have no clue as to how well he plays defense.)

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) i am being honest, i don't get it. i have never been high on him, i never thought the sox will get him, i am ready to come back on this thread, if the sox did sign him for me to eat some over cook crow. but i do not think he is the right guy for the sox. on the other hand i have wanted jackson, murph, francoeur for a short salary in yrs until J May can come around. but that signing will also help out in a SP kind of a signing for a second position help. just me. How much time in AAA does May need before he comes up to help the big league ball club?

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:01 PM) This is a good point. I would much rather hang onto Abreu long term as well. If he is arb eligible now he will be an FA during the proposed Cespedes contract. That could be the determination for the 3 year contract. Isn't that when Abreu would become an FA? According to Baseball-reference, If Abreu doesn't opt out of his contract and apply for arbitration after this year, he is scheduled to receive $12.17M in 2017 (age 30), $13.17M (age 31) in 2018, $13.67M (age 32) in 2019, and then become a free agent prior to the 2020 season. I don't see anybody in the White Sox system that can produce as well as Abreu can, so they will be forced to pay him a huge salary - either through arbitration or through signing Abreu to a longer term deal. Abreu might opt for arbitration after this year with thought of seeing what the new collective bargaining agreement might mean for player's salaries in the future. That's why all the free agents have been securing opt outs.