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    Trade Watch Rumor

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    30 minutes ago, raBBit said:

    Gave me confidence that Stone was referring to him as a bullpen piece moving forward. Stone's plugged in obviously.

    1.) Gio

    2.) Keuchel

    3.) Free Agent/Trade

    4.) Cease

    5.) Dunning

    Kopech knocking on the door in June.

    This makes sense. Sox should look to be aggressive this offseason to add a SP via FA or trade.

    Kopech/Stiever/Lambert/Flores provide additional SP depth

    Dane Dunning - Expectations now and going forward

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    12 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said:

    Not saying you're wrong, but I'm sure people have said the same thing about Kyle Hendricks his entire career.

    Hendricks has outstanding control, rarely allowing walks or HR's. 

    I'm not saying it is impossible for Dunning to develop into more, just saying it is unlikely he can become more than a mid rotation arm. Either way, he's a valuable piece.

    Dane Dunning - Expectations now and going forward

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    1 hour ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

    We have seen 2 starts from Dunning so far. He doesn't have an overwhelming fastball, but he has good offspeed stuff and very good control. Granted, he faced some lousy teams. 

    I for one am super excited to see a guy come up and have the control he has displayed. Stuff isn't overwhelming, but he can place it wherever he wants. 

    I'm really hoping he had the endurance to be our #3 in the playoffs if Cease doesn't step it up. Going forward, he can be one hell of a #4 and probably a #3 pitcher.  What are your early grades and expectations?

     

    So far Dunning looks like he can be a really solid #4 or 5 pitcher that keeps you in ball games.

     

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    Trade Watch Rumor

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    19 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said:

    Kopech still here...✅

    Vaughn still here...✅

    Madrigal still here...✅

    Dunning still here...✅


    I’m good!

    The fact the Rangers held onto Lynn should tell you all you need to know about how high their asking price was. It made way too much sense for them to deal him at peak value and the declined to. 

    Sox made the right call to not overpay

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    Trade Watch Rumor

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    1 minute ago, bmags said:

    maybe dodgers is a 3rd team being pulled in by sox with them getting Heuer?

    maybe, I think the Sox were active in all of these trade talks, but balked at what other clubs were asking them for. 

    Sox want to build a contender that will have mutiple playoff shots, not push too many chips in on a fluky 2020 mini season. Keep the long term vision intact.

    Trade Watch Rumor

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    Just now, hi8is said:

    Not Steve, 

    “Sox had deal completed last night for Lynn that included Dunning. After 5 innings of no hit ball, they decided to reverse course and stand pat its they increased their internal value of the budding right hander.”

    I do not believe that one bit^

    One start does not completely change how an organization feels about a player like that

    Trade Watch Rumor

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    Just now, Tony said:

    If they don't make a move and the price was too high, fine. We should be able to accept that. 

    But then you better make the necessary upgrades in the offseason. No slashing payroll, no COVID cop-outs. 

    I would rather the Sox stand pat than overpay for help right now

    The young core is going to need waves of prospect depth to use as trade capital and injury depth

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    Trade Watch Rumor

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    Posted

    Just now, ChiSox59 said:

    Roll of the dice, sure.  But he's historically been an average pitcher, and worst case you throw him in the pen or DFA him.  Acquisiton price would have been cheap.  Having insurance isn't a bad thing.  But moot point now.  

    I get that^

    I just do not think Ray would change or fortunes all that much

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    Trade Watch Rumor

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    Just now, NCsoxfan said:

    Trade deadline hits and people are in a panic to give up promising players for mediocre short term plugs. 

    I'm a little surprised to see how willing many are to deal away from our limited minor league depth at this stage of the contention window as well. 

    While guys like Stiever are far from untouchable, you really need to have that SP depth in your system moving forward due to injuries. I'd be cautious about trading close to the MLB talent right now. 

    Final guesses at the Trade Deadline

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    13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

    Just over 2 hours to go until the deadline.  Let's hear everyone's guesses.

    -Who do the Sox trade for?

    -What are the primary pieces dealt?

     

    I think Sox deal for Kevin Gausman and give up a guy like Gavin Sheets

    David Phelps could be a possibility for a low level guy? 

    Standing pat is not out of the question, but I think they make at least one trade. No major blockbuster expected. 

    Trade Watch Rumor

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    1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

    This is a great reason why Cease should get a chance to start in the playoffs.

    lots of people forget how terrible Giolito was in 2018 before eventually figuring things out. Sox fans need to give Cease time, it is not an issue of stuff, but rather commanding his pitches consistently and hitting spots. 

    Trade Watch Rumor

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    Just now, GermanSoxFan said:

    Whatever happens, no way a deal is done, as he claims, and they sit on it for like a whole day.

     

    Dude has always been full of shit and got lucky once. He is just reading tea leaves and doesn’t actually know anything, complete clown.

    very little White Sox smoke considering the deadline is less than three hours away

    Trade Watch Rumor

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    2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    They called Heuer off the plane, Collins isn't even on the taxi squad, the trade was made last night. Are you sure you want to risk going to lunch?

    have not seen that Heuer news. He is not traveling with the club? 

    Trade Watch Rumor

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    14 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

    What would be a fair deal for Gausman (29, free agent after this year) or Bundy (27, free agent after 2021 so same control as Lynn but not as successful in recent years)?

    4-5 starts of Gausman could not be all that costly I would be willing to bet

    He helps stabilize the rotation down the stretch and we do not part with anything we will miss

    Trade Watch Rumor

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    2 minutes ago, smellysox said:

    I imagine now that Cleveland has made there decision where Clevenger was going the dominos will start falling. If they fall at all.

    I'm still sticking by my Kevin Gausman rental prediction. It makes sense to acquire a short term solution and add longer terms pieces this offseason. 

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    Trade Watch Rumor

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    4 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

    If the Sox have a deal, I would think MIL makes the most sense. IDK if I believe the Woodruff rumors, but I bet it’s one of their starters and a pen arm.

    Could see Adrian Houser making some sense

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