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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:51 AM) Hope you're right, I'd be ecstatic with Soto and Kieboom and a flier, maybe even more so than Robles I think the NYY is less likely than the BOS deal but both are iffy, I'd love that kid Fowler (even being severely hurt) and Tate has been sharp pitching low levels, not rated very high due to age likely BOS I'd like to get at least one Top 100ish prospect from, Groome is filthy but has off field issues that may point BOS to dealing him, Chavis is a pretty good prospect as well... I'd like Chavis and a flier or two I think you are overestimating what a Frazier rental would be worth on the trade market. Sox will likely take a B-/C+ prospect for him at this point, even with his improved play. Chavis has nearly a 1.000 OPS in the minors this season and is not likely to be dealt for a rental.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) Quintana, Robertson, Frazier, and Melky look to be gaining the most interest so far as well as Swarzak and Kahnle Quintana to MIL for Brinson, Hader, Phillips, and Bickford/Kirby Robertson and Kahnle to WSH for Soto and Severino Frazier to BOS for Chavis/Groome, Cosart, and Callahan Melky and Swarzak to NYY for Fowler and Tate NY and Boston would not make those deals either

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) I'm all for Phillips but he'd have to be the third piece in a deal for Q, criminally underrated Brinson, Ortiz, Phillips gets it done for me, maybe a flier Brinson, Ortiz and Phillips would be a strong return in my opinion

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) Quintana, Robertson, Frazier, and Melky look to be gaining the most interest so far as well as Swarzak and Kahnle Quintana to MIL for Brinson, Hader, Phillips, and Bickford/Kirby Robertson and Kahnle to WSH for Soto and Severino Frazier to BOS for Chavis/Groome, Cosart, and Callahan Melky and Swarzak to NYY for Fowler and Tate Robertson + Kahnle should bring back more than Soto and a catching prospect who can't hit, especially when the Nationals are desperate. I'd insist on significantly more, and start the ask with Robles.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) I think they can make a trade without making a huge dent. Especially if the center-piece is an OF. I doubt they are willing to move Brinson considering his high upside, and I'm not that high on Corey Ray or Hader. A Brinson + Ortiz + 1 or two lower level prospects would be a solid haul

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) Especially since they also have some nice IF guys in Isan Diaz and Lucas Erceg that would look really good in our system. I have my doubts the Brewers make the splash for a big time starter like Gray or Quintana. They have built up a solid farm system and I can't imagine a small market club blowing that up at this point. Unless they view this as their chance to sneak past the Cubs and win the central division? I'd likely have to either insist on Brinson headlining the deal, or would need 3-4 very good prospects back.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:47 AM) Instead of Brinson, see if they'd compromise on Ray-Hader dual headliner. I don't love that Ray and Hader are both not performing very well in the minors this season. Ray has speed, but has not shown much power or ability to hit for average yet. Hader still walks too many guys. I just do not have a great feeling for either of those prospects to want to deal Q for them.

QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) I feel like Brinson would all but be off the table. Brewers get: Jose Quintana White Sox get: Corey Ray, Brett Phillips, Trent Clark and Monte Harrison. Who says no? Why would the White Sox or Brewers trade or trade for four outfield prospects?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:11 AM) They would have been wrong. Turner is gasoline and Albers will be shortly. He was the star of the meme last week showing yet another blown save Agreed, there is no way they rely on Albers come the playoffs. He's due to implode.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 12:16 AM) Thank you. Ynoa has talent but right now, he sucks. They may lose him to a non-contender, like the Phillies, but it happens. If the Nationals claimed Ynoa thinking he will fix their bullpen woes, I'd be surprised. If they claim him and he DOES fix their bullpen woes, I'll buy everyone beef sandwiches from Portillos. Pretty sure we will all hold you to that one haha^^^

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 07:26 AM) Yeah I shouldn't have wrote that when they were only in the third. It was a very good night for Birmingham. Rarely do you see multiple multi-hit games from them. Charlotte and W-S both scored quite a few runs but nobody had that pretty of a box score, except for Saladino's 3 run home run. Adams appeared to be strong last night and is really turning the corner this season

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 08:54 AM) This was Longenhagen's profile before his bat exploded this year. Sees 3rd.: "Scouting Report Though he was drafted as a shortstop and took 100% of his reps in the GCL at shortstop after signing, I have Kieboom projected to third base. He was a fringe runner as an amateur and was posting below-average times from home to first during instructional league, where he was also taking reps at third. I just don’t expect the range necessary for shortstop to be there at maturity, though he has left-side arm strength and should be fine at the hot corner. Offensively, Kieboom’s value is largely tied to his bat-to-ball skills. He has smooth, comfortable stroke, average bat speed and tracks pitches well. He projects for average raw power at maturity. I think the approach to hitting, which is more geared for gap-to-gap contact, will limit the game-power output. It’s not an awe-inspiring offensive profile at third base, but an above-average hitter with fringe-average game power and solid defense there is still an above-average everyday player. I think that’s Kieboom’s ceiling." http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-20-pros...gton-nationals/ Makes sense to me. Kieboom profiles as a solid mlb player, but does not seem to have star potential. That is totally fine with me. Soto or Kieboom would be very welcome additions to our farm.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017...58tpo9qmuEHb.97

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 12:05 PM) This is a good post. The velo readings are huge for Adams and his profile. He's not a TOR guy but definitely a guy to be excited about. The one thing I'd nitpick is him getting a look in Charlotte at the end of this year. He already has 24 starts in BHam between this year and last. Let him get his 2-3 starts in Charlotte in August to end the year assuming we see more of the same moving forward. Another thing with a slight thread derailment - it's gotta suck for the Sox to have starters in Charlotte. It plays really tough to pitch there. Other than guys with less than a handful of starts, the Knights haven't had a starter with less than 4 ERA this year or last. I'm glad to hear the velocity is up to 92-94 for Adams and he's showing good sign of improvement. I can't help but get the feeling that eventually the Sox will look to start building a competitive team, and guys like Adams could be very attractive as trade chips to acquire mlb players when the time is right. Not sure he makes it to Charlotte this season, but certainly at some point in 2018 he should be there. It's a brutal park to pitch in it seems.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) I agree Flowers probably does suck still. His BABIP of .387 is coming down and he's only just eclipsed 200 PAs. What's interesting is his K rate is down 19.9%. This season has brought his career K% down to 30.9%. That's a remarkable improvement. No way Flowers continues with a .387 BABIP the rest of the way. He's having a great season, but there's too much evidence to suggest he is a fluke to believe the bat he is showing now is legitimate. Same goes for Avisail Garcia. Is he improved? Probably, but he is definitely not keeping a batting average over .300 by the end of the year

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) I don't think either guy is worth anything. Shields maybe you could get a C- prospect for if you pay the rest of his salary. These guys are just .5 WAR starters at best. ZIPS sees .3 the rest of the way for each. Pelfrey and Shields are worth nothing on the trade market at this point. As long as they eat innings and lose us games they are doing their part to aid the rebuild though. We are at the point where every loss is vitally important to our draft position and draft bonus pool allowance. Screwing up and winning a few meaningless games can be the difference between picking in the top 3 and picking #9 - 12

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) Burdi is so far ahead of where he should be in the minors right now, it isn't even funny. The Sox need to just leave him alone in AAA, and even if it takes a couple of years for him to catch up, so be it. It is also worth pointing out that with the increase in the value of a reliever, the old thinking about drafting relievers probably needs to start to change. They have WAY more value than they did 10, heck even 5 years ago. The value of quality relievers is certainly valid, but if he doesn't cut it in relief he cannot be even attempted as a starting pitcher. A starting pitcher who doesn't pan out can still be tried as a reliever.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) If he becomes an elite reliever, he'll likely be worth much more in trade than whomever we wouldn't have drafted instead. I'm still more than ok with the pick. Nothing against Burdi, but I would not have selected any reliever in the first round. Dunning, for example, was selected shortly after Burdi and is turning out to be a considerably better prospect because of the possibility that he sticks as a starting pitcher. Again it is too early to say for sure, I just feel position players and/or potential starting pitchers are better first round gambles

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) Hansen Top 50! Glad to see him getting some recognition. Is Dunning anywhere to be found? Dunning does not have quite the same level of pure upside as Hansen does, but he is a quality prospect in his own right. I think he has the upside of a #3 starter, but could end up as an innings eating #4 or 5 starter.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 09:23 AM) Wow, thanks for all the positive feedback everyone. It was fun to write, and I'm not too worried about Kopech. Kopech only recently turned 21, so he still has plenty of time to improve in maturity and command. He will absolutely have to cut down on the walks, but at this point I am not overly concerned.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) Following up on the Kopech piece, here is a post covering the other five pitchers I saw in Birmingham. Spencer Adams gets a deep look with videos and quotes. I also put up a few words and at least one video for each of four relievers, including a surprising look from Jace Fry. The hitters piece is coming soon, along with interview transcripts. Glad to see the progress that Adams has been making. He only turned 21 in April and has already had some success in AA. Very glad to hear his velocity is up in the 92-94 range, with the potential for more to come still. Repeating AA to start 2018, with a possible AAA promotion mid season would not be bad for his development. I still think he has considerable potential to end up being a solid starter sown the line.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) Really hoping Soto headlines a Robertson deal. We all would love a Robertson for Soto deal, and the Nationals inability to acquire Robertson or Holland is going to end up costing them at the deadline. If they are moving Soto they likely would prefer Hand to Robertson, but it's rumored the Padres want a huge return for him.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) Really hoping Soto headlines a Robertson deal. We all would love a Robertson for Soto deal, and the Nationals inability to acquire Robertson or Holland is going to end up costing them at the deadline. If they are moving Soto they likely would prefer Hand to Robertson, but it's rumored the Padres want a huge return for him.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) While all true, I highly doubt this will happen. This team could look drastically different on August 1st, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Moncada gets two full months with the Sox this year. My concern is that Moncada is not really a finished product yet. Defense is still fringy and he still strikes out quite a bit. Waiting until May/June 2018 to call him up might end up being better for his development overall and help us gain another season of control.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 09:57 PM) The guy is more than ready. I would not mind keeping Moncada in the minors until next June or so to gain additional control. It's not as if he could not use some more time in the minors before being moved to the majors full time. His defense still needs work and another few months in the minors can't hurt him. We have to remember he only recently turned 22 years old and we have no reason to rush him up and burn service time on a rebuilding club.