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QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) Nice segment raBBit, you sounded a lot more educated than the usual suspects on that show. For those of you who want a summary, there wasn't much more than we've already discussed here. He brought up the individual players, how the Pirates have budget constraints so they may need to deal McCutchen, discussed the Sox new moves internally with scouting and player development and discussed the packages that Hahn might come back with (likely four players). Futuresox.com was mentioned as well. It was a good segment Glasnow is legit, I have no issue stocking up on premium arms Too much talk about bell though. Pittsburgh likely wants to keep him and might be willing to move Newman or other prospects

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) If they are willing to give up McCutchen instead to get more prospects from the Yankees, more power to them. I am not particular about where the kids come from, but I am particular about getting a big haul for Q. If that means getting guys like Andujar and Rutherford from the Yankees instead, cool. Does cutch really make that much sense for the Yankees? That team really needs pitching

QUOTE (ChiSox1917 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) Am I the only one that would rather have Keller than Glasnow if the Pirates are truly saying Meadows is untouchable? Keller has great control, but Glasnow has the ability to flat out dominate hitters. If he can improve his control he could be an ace. Keller could become a mid rotation starter, but unlikely to ever be an ace

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:22 AM) not really. They have one in rodon. So they need 4 of the following Giolito Kopech Lopez Glasnow Dunning Newman Hansen Adams Only half need to perform and they should have a lower bust rate than the average prospects as many of them have had really good success in the upper minors. There is always a risk with pitchers however with the numbers, I think its a pretty good chance. What about fulmer, Stephens or burdi as well?

QUOTE (Moncada @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) We need potential elite hitter not more pitchers. Give me guys like Glasnow and Keller any day. You never can have too much pitching I obviously want position players as well

QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) Would you guys be happy with Glasnow/Diaz from the Pirates, and Rutherford/Andujar from the Yankees? Glasnow, Rutherford, andujar, Diaz would be a very solid haul

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 06:24 PM) I've also heard it's possible for Bell to move into a corner OF position 45 run tool likely limits him to 1b or dh He could possibly play a crappy left field if he had to though?

QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 05:37 PM) Glasnow or Meadows/Bell/Newman or Hayes/Escobar or Hearn is a great haul for Q Diaz being a defensive minded 26 year old back stop shouldn't be a priority for the sox right now, focus on Collins developing and potentially getting a Kelly/Stubbs/Severino/Barnes/Plawecki/Swihart with a later trade of Jones or Robertson. If the pirates are serious, the offer would have to be something like Glasnow, bell and Newman They keep meadows as their future center fielder. White sox compromise, but acquire three top fifty prospects. Bell can play 1b and do with a plus hit tool Newman also has a plus hit tool and would fit at second base Glasgow has ace potential Deal really makes sense for each team if glasnow, meadows plus more can't get done

QUOTE (Username @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 05:19 PM) Did Heyman have any indication of how far along anything is? I doubt any deal is close. White sox will insist Glasgow and meadows are in the deal. Glasgow, bell, Newman and Hayes would not be too shabby though

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 04:31 PM) Assuming no more moves, this how I think our lineup would shake out: 1B: Abreu 2B: Lawrie SS: Anderson 3B: Frazier LF: Cabrera CF: Tilson/Liriano RF: Garcia DH: Davidson Not that I agree with it, but I think they plan on giving Avi one last shot in RF. And with Melky unlikely to be moved, I don't see an everyday spot for both Tilson & Liriano. I actually don't see a way that San Diego is not the worst team in baseball That rotation is awful

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 04:31 PM) Assuming no more moves, this how I think our lineup would shake out: 1B: Abreu 2B: Lawrie SS: Anderson 3B: Frazier LF: Cabrera CF: Tilson/Liriano RF: Garcia DH: Davidson Not that I agree with it, but I think they plan on giving Avi one last shot in RF. And with Melky unlikely to be moved, I don't see an everyday spot for both Tilson & Liriano. I actually don't see a way that San Diego is not the worst team in baseball That rotation is awful

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) I think an idea for a #2 and a solid addition to pitch behind the resurrected Clayton Richard would be JAMES SHIELDS! Why not, they are paying half his salary anyway. Sox of course would pick up the tab for the flight back to SD. We still need Shields to go out there and get lit up for 200 innings per year Somebody has to go out there and pitch

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:53 PM) Lmfao legit laughed out loud on my train at this comment. San Diego does have the worst rotation in the MLB by a very long way It's not crazy to think that our AAA rotation might actually be better than their MLB rotation this season Clayton Richard is arguably their #1 right now

QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) I don't know he could develop into a Denard Span type of player and that would be awesome. Good glove, decent hit tool, solid speed Tilsen could end up being a quality fourth outfielder due to his ability to play center

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) I laughed more than I should at this post. I think as currently structured, were a bottom 5 team in the league. We trade Quintana and Robertson in the next few weeks, I'd be convinced we'll be having a top 3 pick. Trade Frazier and Melky at the deadline, were contending for the #1 pick. If Abreu gets dealt I am not sure how this team will score runs I fully expect Holland to get shelled Gonzalez was surprisingly decent in 2016, maybe we could flip him at or prior to the deadline?

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) Any rotationtnat relegates Hansen to the pen... wow. That pen could throw some serious smoke Hansen, Fulmer, Adams, Stephens, Diaz?, Dunning all can throw mid 90's plus

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) Guys I don't quite see us as the worst team (yet). We should also probably pump our brakes on a guy who won't be drafted for two years. Trade Quintana, Jones and Robertson and yes, we are probably one of the worst teams. Frazier, Melky, Abreu, Anderson are enough to keep us semi decent, but the utter lack of bullpen and pitching means we need to score 10 runs to win AL teams will run train on a depleted White Sox roster

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Fixed it for you, and all I gotta say is Woof. I don't know if I like the pitching potential, or the offensive juggernaut potential of that team more You would have power: Beer, Collins, Abreu, Moncada, Meadows, Basabe, Machado Speed: Anderson, Moncada, Basabe The ceiling of the rotation is absurd

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Fixed it for you, and all I gotta say is Woof. You just beat me to it! hahahaha

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) Balta, what is a good Pirates message board? Trying to get a feel for what they think. I found a few, but very little action on the Q talk. Total pipe dream here = That farm system would be absolutely locked and loaded to compete in the next few years Add in some other shrewd moves and/or free agent signings and you are looking at a playoff team if things go well 1) Rodon 2) Glasnow 3) Giolito 4) Kopech 5) Lopez Pen arm possibilities (or other starters): Burdi, Dunning, Stephens, Adams, Fulmer, Hansen, Clark, Cooper C- Collins (fingers crossed) 1B - Bell 2B - Moncada and/or Newman SS - Anderson 3B - MACHADO OF- Meadows OF- Basabe OF- BEER DH - ABREU As a Sox fan you can dream of a scenario like this... That roster projection is totally loaded

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) When ARod signed with Texas back in the day, I believe we had the second highest offer at $190M. With a new TV deal being in the works, I could definitely see Reinsdorf being very motivated to make a free agent splash to help boost its value. And clearly we'll have a ton of financial flexibility to fit such a salary in our budget. While it's unlikely we land a guy like Machado, I fully expect us to be in the mix. We will have tons of money to spend, plus free agents will likely notice the sort of team we will be building here

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Or somehow Tilson went really, really right. At age 26 with the money the Sox should have, I'm down of he'd be the last piece. Add Machado to that team = WOW Insane level of pitcher and position player talent. I'm not even sure they need someone on Machado's level, just a solid 3B and OF would be great

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) you shouldn't count on all of them being good MLB players. Many of them will not. I'm speculating big big time here, but we would not even need all/most of those players to pan out We have the draft, trades and free agency to build up the roster We would have an amazing amount of payroll flexibility to go out and sign a few big time free agents and try to contend I'm giving Tilesen the benefit of the doubt to stick around, perhaps as a fourth outfielder? He has no power and his arm is fringy, but his other tools are all solid or slightly above average

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:02 PM) I love how our 4th best prospect in this scenario was the 3rd best prospect in game a few months ago. That farm system would be absolutely locked and loaded to compete in the next few years Add in some other shrewd moves and/or free agent signings and you are looking at a playoff team if things go well 1) Rodon 2) Glasnow 3) Giolito 4) Kopech 5) Lopez Pen arm possibilities (or other starters): Burdi, Dunning, Stephens, Adams, Fulmer, Hansen, Clark, Cooper C- Collins (fingers crossed) 1B - Abreu and/or Bell 2B - Moncada and/or Newman SS - Anderson 3B - ? OF- Meadows OF- Basabe OF- Tilson? DH - ? As a Sox fan you can dream of a scenario like this... God forbid anyone else in our system pans out like Call, Fisher, Engel, Michalczewski, Schnurbusch, etc.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) If that happens god damn. We trade Q for Glasnow/Meadows and either Newman or Bell and I am popping the champagne Sox would easily have the best farm system in baseball by a gigantic margin. Zero debate. 1) Moncada 2) Glasnow 3) Meadows 4) Giolito 5) Kopech 6) Bell/Newman 7) Lopez 8) Collins 9) Fulmer 10) Adams 11) Burdi 12) Basabe 13) Hansen 14) Dunning 15) Tilsen Holy f*ck (dare to dream)