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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) The Rockies seem like they want to compete. Deal them whoever they want for a package around Rodgers and Dahl and I'd be ECSTATIC. Wow, 5 years / 70 million for Desmond He might play first base for the Rockies

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) I'm not saying it makes a ton of sense, just that its been hinted about in different places. There was something put out a while back that said everyone is on the table including Rodon. So when they called him out specifically and Rick has been puffing him up as TOR starter even in his PC yesterday, that there is some chance. It also could be that I am reading too much into what they have said too... Moving Rodon would not make sense right now. He is a piece you keep as he is under control for 5 more seasons and can get better.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) I agree. Sign him to a one year deal or one year with an option and see if he can rebuild value. Wieters is not going to take a one year deal in this market. He is going to get overpaid

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) From what I understand, they have C- Murphy 1B- ? 2B- DJ SS- Story 3B- Arenado LF- Desmond/Parra/Dahl CF- Blackmon RF- Gonzalez Basically, Dahl is now freed up to be traded. The Rockies pitching currently is not good enough to compete Trading for any of Quintana / Robertson / Jones would help them alot

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) Rockies signed Desmond. Per Rosenthal Interesting. Signing Desmond indicates that the Rockies are trying to compete now I'd see if they are interested in Abreu, Quintana, Robertson, Jones, etc

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) Suzuki is a bad idea. He is a horrible defensive catcher. We need real catchers to help what is likely to be a very young staff. Current options include: - Trade for a young catcher - Chris Ianetta - Ryan Hanigan (bad defense) -Kurt Suzuki - Al Avila - Welington Castillo (likely going to get overpaid and has several teams interested) - Matt Wieters (would make no sense for us)

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:13 AM) I would not be shocked if Rodon gets moved. There have been little hints about it in the past, even yesterday when RH was talking about Sale he said he has "others" that fit the description of front line pitchers that teams can plug into playoff rotations. I know that Rodon seems like the kind of asset you hang on to, but given his agent and his performance in the second half, I could see the Sox moving him to try to build a core at the lower levels. Kopech is likely two years away as is Hansen, Burdi would be too if they decide to make him a starter. If they get the right deal for him, I think Rodon could get moved soon as well. Why look to move Rodon right now? He is under team control for 5 more season and is exactly the type of arm you want to keep around. He could still be on the team in a few years when you are ready to compete and just be entering his prime

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:45 AM) My first thought with Puig on a bad team was good god no but if that dude comes over here and produces along with playing nice in the clubhouse we could get a nice return on that investment at the trade deadline somewhere down the line. That is how you rebuild. The front office's entire focus must be to completely clean house, torpedo the next two seasons and get young The White Sox are probably the only team that currently is willing to sell off all of it's major league talent over the age of 25 Robertson, Quintana, Abreu, Eaton, Cabrera, Jones, Gonzalez, Lawrie...all of them should go to restock the farm

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:48 AM) If its Yankees ....how about Torres, Rutherford, Kaprielian, Adams, and Torrens(really want catcher) for Q and Robertson. No way New York parts with that much for Quintana and Robertson Torres is not going anywhere after destroying the Arizona Fall League

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) I am all for that if we are unable to nab a decent ML catcher in a deal. Avila, while horrifically frustrating to watch at the plate, is a decent player. Just can't expect more than 60 or so games from him. Problem is, Sox literally have no one behind Narvaez. Honestly signing Ianetta / Suzuki or Avila to go along with Narvaez is probably what we are going to get right now Unless we can swing a trade for a close to mlb ready catching prospect

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:45 AM) I have zero interest in Giolito from his mid year performance and concerning Fangraphs article. I would rather have Lopez/Robles I agree Give me Lopez and Robles and one more lower level player and done deal

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) I say Wellington Castillo, or just bring back Avila. Let Narvaez get good playing time. I do think the Sox will probably acquire a ML ready catcher in one of these deals though. Tom Murphy from the Rox or Pedro Severino from the Nats are two to keep an eye on. Several other teams are in on Castillo, and unless we pay him the most I don't see why he would not want to go elsewhere considering we are tearing it all down

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:34 AM) So does Pittsburgh. Quintana's cheap four years of control make sense for a TON of teams. There actually might be more suitors for him than there were for Sale

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:19 AM) "He's not Navarro this is spectacular!!!" Narvaez did a pretty decent job during his 34 games at the big league level I thought. Probably not starting catcher material, but certainly could be a quality backup He's only 24 years old as well, worth hanging onto. Collins should absolutely be developed as a catcher in the minors for a few more seasons. Since we are going to suck the next few seasons anyway all we need is a serviceable defensive catcher. Is Chris Ianetta available?

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:16 AM) In a heartbeat. But it seems NY is attempting a different approach with holding onto prospects at this point. The Yankees farm system is so stacked. I could see them being an excellent team in 3-4 years at this rate coupled with a few free agent signings

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:09 AM) I think you would take that. Having said that, I'd like to get a hold of Bird. Having 4 of the top 30 prospects in baseball would be an amazing start to a rebuild, although I don't see the Yankees being interested in trading their future away If I can't get very close to the same value for Sale as Quintana (especially with 4 years of cheap control) then I won't trade him

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:49 AM) Q and Abreu for Rogers/Dahl and mid- level MiLB pitcher? Rodgers or Dahl, or Rodgers AND Dahl? No way they trade both players

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:25 AM) A lot of other guys in our system have potential too- the Jake Peters of the world. Wouldn't be surprised to see someone like that become good enough to start for us. Eh maybe, but unlikely sign me up for a couple years of tanking for draft picks

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:22 AM) Good to see I'm not the only one that wants Reed. Since Houston would not be including Bregman in any deal I would want multiple nice pieces coming back to the White Sox Reed, Tucker, Martes would be a solid return

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:48 PM) I'd need the Cards Top 5: Reyes (#7 MLB), Weaver (#81 MLB), Bader (#82 MLB), Flaherty (#4 STL) and Perez (#5 STL). If you do a reverse rankings formula of sorts where #1 = 100 points, Sale netted 170+ points (Moncada = worth 100, Kopech worth 70). The Cards deal above nets 130+ (Reyes 93, Weaver 19, Bader 18) No way st Louis parts with that much for Eaton. I read a st Louis fan article that wouldn't part with weaver for Eaton and I laughed

QUOTE (Username @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:18 PM) Yep. Should have an absurd amount of flexibility for that crazy 2018 FA class, could speed the rebuild up dramatically and not lose any young talent. Sox likely won't be players in 2018, but come 2019 I could see a rebuilt team ready to compete with more moves and quality drafts We are heading for a top 5 draft pick the next two years in a row

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year We will have TONS of payroll flexibility as a result of the rebuild Once Melky and Robertson are off the books the payroll will be tiny

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana? If I am Washington I would trade Turner, Giolito and Robles for Eaton and Quintana right away Eaton and Q are under cheap control for years and both have been 5+ WAR players

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana? Interesting, but I don't think that would be the best use of Q and Eaton. It would likely be better to trade them individually for nice packages Abreu has a solid amount of value as well

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:06 PM) Tough for me. Sox have had trouble developing bats, and think that Moncada's power profile will lead to a player with a better bat. But benintendi will be a very good contact hitter with totally respectable power numbers and probably one year of 20-25 home runs that if he sticks as a CFer may have made him a more well rounded guy. I loved benintendi, him and anderson had the same quick wrists to catch up to anything. But pretty sure Moncada is gonna be the bat we needed. Moncada has shown the ability not only to hit, but also get on base in the minor leagues as well with a .395 OBP in two seasons. If he puts it all together we could be looking at a player that does not exist in most organizations