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  1. QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 11:09 AM) Gotta include Turner for Sale. We can listen on Q without him but you've gotta put together a lot of value for him otherwise. Dodgers are considering Seager based package for Sale... so Turner isn't an unreasonable starting point. We've told all teams this year we want proven major league talent and at least 5 total top end players for Sale. Quintana holds similar value but potentially we may find ourselves with more of an ability to move on him. With that said, and more along the lines with our long term value projections, there may be an interest in all our assets that warrants your serious consideration. Excuse me, wife said the toilet is plugged again. -Rick Hahn Rick, Can't deal Turner, especially after the numbers he put up in just 73 games this year We are willing to put Giolito on the table as a centerpiece though. -Rizzo
  2. QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) Dodgers and GM Friedman are interested in Sale, Frazier, and Jones..... Rick, I'm interested in that Sale guy, or possibly Quintana Turner is off the table, but I'm open to discussing minor league players in a swap -Rizzo
  3. QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) Dont see any way the jays get that deal done with prospects alone. You'd need to probably start around Travis. Travis and Stroman would start the package coming back to the Sox, plus another prospect or two Eaton is a gold glove, all start right fielder with plenty of control left While not untouchable at all, he would be very expensive to trade for
  4. QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:15 AM) Not sure why Toronto would empty their already mediocre system for a guy like Eaton when they could just sign Fowler and give up 1 pick. Fowler would seem to make more sense for them than Eaton, although it depends on his contract demands
  5. QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:00 AM) If the Braves won't offer Swanson, I doubt they can acquire Sale without a 3rd team. I would insist on Swanson being in the package plus alot more Swanson, Albies, Newcomb, Allard or Maitan plus one more lower level prospect starts to get close The offers being floated around of seven guys for Sale aren't realistic. Sox will be looking for 4-5 players with 3-4 of those players being elite prospects
  6. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) Mike, We won the World Series. We aren't giving Jake Arrieta a 7 year deal because of the contracts we are going to sign in the future. We have enough offense and I think we have the prospects to acquire another pitcher on the level of Arrieta with some of those pieces. And we just won the world series, and our fans will get over trading Jake Arrieta. Jed, I get not resigning Arrieta I'll offer you Erick Fedde, Dane Dunning and Austin Voth for Arrieta
  7. QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 09:38 AM) I looked at their top 30, and it wasn't overwhelming. However, they might have the pieces. Does anyone know if McGuire could be a legitimate catcher in the majors? Eaton was a 6.2 WAR Gold Glove Right Fielder who gets on base and is under team control through 2020 The return would have to be overwhelming for me to move him They have some interesting players in their system, but many are considerably far away from being in the majors
  8. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) I have a strong Braves offer for Arrieta. Any other takers? You get 1 year of one of the best starters in baseball and you also get a 1st round draft pick if he leave snext season. The Cubs are absolutely in win now mode Jed, why would you ship out one of your top starters for two players that are years away from cracking a major league roster??? That leaves you needing to replace two quality starting pitchers -Rizzo
  9. QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 09:29 AM) https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/799634740630474756 Not sure Toronto has the farm system to get the Sox interested enough to deal Eaton. His value is extremely high right now and he is on a cheap contract.
  10. QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 09:27 AM) Hi Jed, John Coppolella here. It's no secret that Arrieta only has one year of control left. Therefore, I'll give you Ian Anderson and Joey Wentz. How would that make sense for the Braves John? Arrieta is a one year rental and you should be looking for assets under longer term control than one year with your rebuilding team -Rizzo
  11. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) As Jed Hoyer: I'm looking for young cost-controlled starting pitching. I'm looking to trade Jake Arrieta. Make me some offers. Jed, A one year Arrieta rental would net you a decent return, but nothing earth shattering Keep drinking champagne, you broke the curse. Congrats -Rizzo
  12. QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 11:57 PM) If Boston: Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, Kopech, Groome If Atlanta: Swanson, Inciarte, Albies, Newcomb, Blair If Yankees: Sanchez, Frazier, Torres, Andujar, Sheffield, Tate If Washington: Giolito, Turner, Robles, Lopez, Cole, Fedde If Dodgers (w/Puig): Urias, Puig, Bellinger, DeLeon, Alvarez If Dodgers (w/o Puig): Urias, Bellinger, DeLeon, Alvarez, Calhoun, Lux I know, "not realistic", but this is the type of return the White Sox need for Sale. I intentionally did not include Houston because my hope is they'll build a package around Bregman for Q. If all of these posts were on the table, I'd have a tough time choosing between BOS and NYY. Pretty sure Rizzo gets fired if he traded Giolito, Turner, Robles, Lopez and Fedde for any MLB player
  13. QUOTE (SCCWS @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 07:39 AM) I would like to be Katsuhiro Nakamura, the general manager of the Hanshin Tigers. Rumors are swirling in Japan that Rick Hahn has approached the Tigers about a potential trade for Chris Sale.......................... I'll take Rizzo
  14. QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 01:13 PM) Sox had better get a real good haul for Sale or you just don't trade him. I'm thinking Sale and Frazier to the Dodgers for Seager, De Leon and Puig. Seager and De Leon are good young pieces to build on and from the Dodgers standpoint: Sale and Kershaw, are you kidding? They'd maybe be able to beat the Cubs next year, they'd have to be tempted even giving up Seager. Seager is not going anywhere, lets be honest
  15. QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 12:27 PM) I thought about that but I think the value we get back is really good with Rodriguez, Benintendi, Kopech and Devers. Jones is more than just a throw in player in a Chris Sale deal. He was excellent this past season and arguably deserves a chance to close On his own Jones would have solid trade value
  16. QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Speaking of a Cub player. Eaton would be a perfect fit to take over for Fowler and the Cubs have the prospects to get a deal done. Unfortunately, I get it, the Sox won't trade with them, but I disagree with that line of thinking. Your job as a GM is to make your team better, who cares if it makes the crosstown team better as well. Whatever gets us closer to a WS title. Eaton is unlikely to be traded. Her is under team control through his prime and the kind of player the Sox can keep through a rebuild for when they are ready to compete
  17. QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) Matt Spiegel on the Score was talking about how he loves them as a destination for Sale. They need a front of the rotation arm to go along with the great youth around the rest of the field. Him and Jim Callis were saying Bregman could be expendable since Correa and Altuve are up the middle and Gurriel is at third. Would love to get Bregman. It would take more than Bregman to get a deal done Bregman, Tucker and Musgrove/Martes/Whitley/Paulino plus one more B+ prospect starts to get close to an acceptable return for the White Sox
  18. QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) I think they would have the trade off for lesser propsects on the backend of the Chris Sale trade. Which I personally would gladly do. It's less risk for us because we're getting an established player signed through 2020 + others. Defensively the OF just improved a bunch. So what do you propose as a framework then? Inciarte / Swanson + two quality pitching prospects?
  19. QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) Feels like less talk about Houston as a potential partner than I would think. They'd seem to be a type of team looking to make a big splash and get to the next level - especially with an affordable contract like Sale (maybe worth more to Houston than a Dodgers type with inifinite $) Don't see Houston being willing to deal what it would take to get Sale They would be looking at a firm request of: Bregman, Tucker, and two more of Martes/Whitley/Paulino/Musgrove/Fisher/Cameron
  20. QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Seems everyone is avoiding Inciarte for some reason. I'd rather have him headlining the deal than anyone else. +15 DRS this past year +29 the year before that Add that with Eaton in the OF and your in business defensively He's just a really good 26 year old baseball player I don't see Atlanta wanting to trade Inciarte because who do they replace him with then?
  21. QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) http://m.braves.mlb.com/news/article/20890...for-chris-sale/ I don't see any way the Sox make a deal without Swanson headlining it. I like Albies, and there is alot to be said for a 19 year old making it to AAA, but his numbers did take a dip at AAA after the promotion Albies + Newcomb plus filler does not get it done like the article suggests, especially with other suitors involved Blair and Wisler profile as back of the rotation starters and do not excite me
  22. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) Swanson would be the centerpiece and the low floor player of the deal. Maitan would be 1A in the deal. Perhaps I don't actually see Atlanta being willing to part with what it would actually take to get a deal done though A package of Swanson, Albies, Newcomb and Soroka certainly gets the conversation serious That would round out the Sox infield with some combination of Swanson/Anderson/Albies covering 3B, SS and 2B plus two young pitchers with starting potential Zack Collins will need time to develop, but ideally he could stay at catcher
  23. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) Swanson would be the centerpiece and the low floor player of the deal. Maitan would be 1A in the deal. Perhaps I don't actually see Atlanta being willing to part with what it would actually take to get a deal done though A package of Swanson, Albies, Newcomb and Soroka certainly gets the conversation serious That would round out the Sox infield with some combination of Swanson/Anderson/Albies covering 3B, SS and 2B plus two young pitchers with starting potential Zack Collins will need time to develop, but ideally he could stay at catcher
  24. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 02:22 PM) This kid is being billed as a once in a generation talent. He is absolutely someone who is a must if the Sox do indeed swing a deal with Atlanta. He would instantly be our top prospect, with no one else particularly close, even at age 16. http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...s1tVklhESAKj.97 His ceiling is very high, no doubt. I am concerned about the risk of having such a young player be a centerpiece of a deal though. The Sox farm system has not had great success in developing this sort of player from a young age all the way to the majors I like Swanson + Albies as a centerpiece of a trade that includes pitching as well Maitan is too raw and the bust potential worries me too much in a Sale deal unless he is a 3rd or 4th piece
  25. QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 11:29 AM) Any deal has to start with Swanson and Maitan. Would nice to see Acuna or Albies in there too, but just a base of those 2 guys would be a great start. Maitan has a high ceiling, but I would rather receive more proven talent that has less risk than a teenager I get multiple teams involved and let the bidding WAR commence. You never know what you might be offered, but it's a given that the Sox will end up receiving a king's ransom if they choose to move him
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