steveno89

Honestly, if the Sox ink Rendon do we really care what happens with Madrigal? Shift Moncada back to 2B and I'd look to deal Madrigal for pitching or RF? I really like Madrigal as a prospect, and think he can be a solid 2-3 WAR guy each season, but Rendon is an absolute stud who can anchor a championship roster. He changes your entire offense, and the lineup would be intimidating with Robert/Moncada/Grandal/Rendon/Abreu/Jimenez/DH/RF. Sprinkle in some pitching and that is a team that can win the AL Central.

I could be wrong, but I thought Rendon rejected a 7/210 offer by Washington, right? Do not love moving Moncada off of 3B, but adding Rendon would be such a game changer for our offense.

If he's cheap, I'm on board. Smaller market teams are the ones who should roll the dice on a player like this.

The K% rate is alarming, and would only likely rise against MLB pitching. Would he be a better option than Kole Calhoun? I'm not sure

He's going to leverage Ryu's 5.3 WAR (Fangraphs) 2019 into as much $$$$ as possible, both in terms of years and dollars. While sitting here now, 3/65 might sound right, I know his agent has much higher aspirations.

I do not think the Sox are in on MBum, but I do they they would try to drive up the price for Minnesota.

With the way this pitching market has been shaping up, Keuchel might be able to squeeze a four year deal out of a team. I'd have to imagine his asking price will be $18-20 million per.

Do Sox fans realize the asking price for Ryu and Bum is currently exorbitant? Boras will get Ryu a 4/110 deal out of a pitching starved team, and given the injuries I'm not sure we should roll the dice on that.

Ryu is a Boras client, so you know he's going to drag negotiations out and leverage his strong 2019 into a four year agreement for big dollars. Boras is smart and know this is a pitching starved market. Do not be surprised if the asking price for Ryu is 4/$110 million like spotrac suggests. That is a gigantic risk considering his injury history.

Sox would be wise to approach Giolito/Moncada/Robert about early extensions. Pitching is getting more and more expensive in free agency, and will likely only continue to do so.

I'm really happy we at least managed to land Grandal, a legitimate quality free agent. We tried our best for Wheeler, but family does play a factor on decision day.

Four years for Ryu would be crazy town, he will be 33 years old in march and has an extensive injury history. I think Ryu gets three years because of how good he was in 2019, but fingers crossed he remains able to stay on the mound. 3/60 ish is a reasonable ask in this market

Cole to the Angels would not exactly be a shocking position. Rumors that the Angels would pay nearly any price to ink him have been around for months.

I do not think the Sox are in on Bumgarner, and for good reason. He’s a quality #3-4, but wants to be paid like a #2 for the next 4-5 years. We are better off looking into other options.

No way I give Bumgarner $100 million. Max I’d go is 4 years, $80 million. Anymore than that would be a huge overpayment.

This is not the end of the world, so long as the Sox have strong contingency plans. Our whole offseason does not revolve around Wheeer, but they had better pivot to other quality options quickly.

I’d rather have Joc than Calhoun, but not by a gigantic amount since each would only be in one year deals. hypothetically we add Grandal, Joc/Calhoun, Encarnacion, we will have added a ton of pop to our lineup and also retained future financial flexibility. Sprinkle in Wheeler plus a solid backend starter and a pen arm and we are cooking in 2020.

Sox wouldn’t trade Bummer for a one year rental

I can’t handle more of that BS. All the smoke suggests the Sox have put 5/100+ million in the table for Wheeler, and are a top suitor. I cannot see the bidding going way higher than that.

Pederson is worth more than that on the trade market, especially coming off a 3.0 WAR season. Sox clearly are assessing the free agenct prices of Ozuna/Castellanos, compared to trade prices of guys like Joc and Starling Marte.

I just retweeted that article as well! interesting that he mentions Joc Peterson again as a possible trade candidate?

Im not concerned with super 2 for a player like Madrigal. If he’s good enough to warrant that concern then great, but he does not have the power to make himself into a true superstar. He can be a darn good glue player for a championship team up the middle though.

I cautiously optimistic, but man it will sting if the Sox fail to ink Wheeler. They could still have a solid offseason, but I feel a quality #2/3 starter is badly needed on our roster.

Pitching staff and bullpen is still pretty questionable. Wheeler (figure $21 million) and Betts ($28 million) would pretty much prevent us from being able to add much in the way of bullpen/bench/another starter help. we would have to give up significant assets as well, and the roster is not championship ready considering Robert and Madrigal have yet to play a MLB game yet. 2020 should be a big step, but true contention is likely 2021.

I do not want Betts on a one year deal though. He will cost $28 million and we still will not be realistic contenders in 2020 even with Betts and Wheeler hypothetically.