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QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Apr 18, 2018 -> 06:39 AM) Last evening's game is the biggest example of the upside of Moncada. 2-3, HR, 2B, BB, SB. If we get to see that guy more and more as the season goes on, we'll all look back at this thread and laugh. Moncada just needs to continue getting reps against major league pitching before he figures it all out. Once he gains a better understanding of what pitchers are going to do against him the success will come. His current hit tool is a 30/40 grade, but scouts really feel it will be 60 grade with time.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 08:30 AM) Or maybe it's a reminder that development isn't always linear. Would it be out of the question to consider sending Moncada down to AAA for a bit?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 03:57 PM) I just don’t see a need to be aggressive with Adolfo. Booker & Call are 24 & 23 respectively and will likely be pushed ahead of Micker no matter the results. And while Basabe is also 21 like Micker, he’s also spent quite a bit of time in High A and should also be prioritized in terms of promotion. I think best case scenario for Adolfo is getting a brief stint with Birmingham to end the season and that’s assuming he does not require surgery. I agree with this plan for Adolfo. He still has to continue to prove his improvement at the plate before I would even think about promoting him above high A ball.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 08:25 AM) Im all for drafting Madrigal. Above average to plus tools pretty much across the board. I want a guy I know is going to hit at the next level and I have the least doubts about him. His small size shouldn't deter teams from selecting him in the top 10. His bat and plate discipline are for real, as is his speed.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 11:33 AM) http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/...-in-cooperstown This article on ESPN today gives no mention of Jose Abreu. Yes, yes - I know - it's ESPN, and they love ignoring the White Sox at every turn. I also know that Abreu started old, and has borderline numbers with an expected dropoff as he gets older. Nevertheless, I think this is an interesting question - if Jose has 6 more years identical to the average of the previous 4, how borderline is he then? I don't think that's necessary unrealistic. An .882 OPS puts him in the top 100 all time in that category, and he'd have 300 homers, 350 doubles and a .300 batting average with 1000 RBIs. Would he be close? Or just in the hall of "very good"? Abreu will not come close to sniffing the hall of fame due to his late arrival. Non discussion really even if he puts up another great 6-8 seasons.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 09:18 AM) The bullpen sucks. Agreed, this bullpen is hot garbage right now. Fortunately, we do have a slew of interesting arms in the minors right now who should be ready to contribute soon. We still will need to add some veteran bullpen help in the offseason.

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 07:32 AM) Noticed they have Bohm listed as a 1B. Drafting a Bohm in the top five seems like it would be a mistake. He's likely a 1B only player being 6'5" and 240 lbs, which forces the bat to play big time. I'm not wasting a high first round pick on a first baseman unless he projects to have enormous power potential.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 07:05 AM) Full draft top 125 from 2080 baseball. They have an interesting take on Turang. Also there seems to be some consensus forming on the top tier. Interesting that initial projections of De Sedas and Turang going in the top ten picks seem to have fizzled. We should absolutely be looking to take BPA regardless of position at #4. Underslot might be good in theory, but I want premium talent if drafting in the top five. I hope we don't get too cute come draft day.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 4, 2018 -> 08:36 AM) I'd be really thrilled with Mize, just don't think he's there. McClanahan is nice, just don't really want a TJ guy. There are also just a lot of high school pitchers that are quality, and not so many position players. So it's a question of getting the top of a pretty stocked class, or getting the top of a weak class. It seems like arms are going to be the top of this class, we should not be foolish and reach for a lesser player out of need. With a top 5 pick we should take the best talent.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 04:56 PM) Well so far in his career he has posted fielding percentages of .859 | .959 | .925 I know fielding percentage isn't a great measure, but he is pretty consistently low (the second year was probably inflated by playing ~20% of his games at first base) and he doesn't look great on video. I also don't really understand why everyone is talking about him having massive power when he has put up good power numbers, but nothing spectacular. Unless its something they see and think they can change to bring out more power, but that seems like added risk to such a high pick. Did not read far back to see if this was discussed, but how are we not all over Casey Mize with the amazing season he is having? 47 ip 25 h 11 er 4 hr 3 bb 70 k's 2.11 ERA 0.60 WHIP He might not even be there at #4 overall at this point Shane McClanahan is also havign a very strong season, along with Brady Singer I know most of us want to see a SS or a bat, but I would strongly consider adding another high end arm to our system.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 09:16 AM) Elite will mean different things, but I don't see either Abreu or Avi bringing back elite returns. Doesn't mean anything of worth can't come back, but would abreu or Avi bring back something like the Kahnle/Robertson/Frazier trade? I personally doubt it. There isn't a big group of teams they are fits for and that will suppress returns. Too soon to assess what a potential trade market will be like in a few months. Injuries can completely change how valuable one of our pieces might be.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 1, 2018 -> 08:12 AM) I believe that is still the draft date unless it changed in the new CBA. I'm sure he'd still see some live pitching (players he knows around the league that aren't with a team, former teammates that may not be playing, etc) and working on defense during that time. If there was no draft pick compensation attached, I would be interested in a 1-2 year deal on Moustakas. As things are currently, I am not interested in giving up the #45 pick in the draft and bonus pool.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 27, 2018 -> 11:04 AM) Because it was 2/$15mm, and the only guy who stands to lose PT is Narvaez. I think most of us would take Moustakas at 2/$15mm, even if it meant fewer ABs for Yolmer. Moustakas at 2 years/$15 million would be a solid value

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 27, 2018 -> 10:59 AM) If Jake Burger makes his debut the same age as Todd Frazier did, he’ll debut in July, 2021. Just saying, Frazier has had a decent career debuting at age 25, and Burger still has a chance to be up way before that if his rehab goes well. The prognosis for athletes is not great coming back from an Achilles tear. I wish him the best, but sadly I do not feel like we can realistically consider him a core part of our future plans anymore. Anything he provides the mlb club moving forward would purely be a bonus.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 26, 2018 -> 03:46 PM) Yeah this is a devastating injury for him. Devastating injury. Praying it's not a torn Achilles, but this sounds bad.

QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 22, 2018 -> 08:42 AM) The answer is: You would take out no months, because they all actually happened and you need to use as much information as possible to evaluate a player. I can't see the Sox handing a player like Moustakas a five year deal. Why would we be bidding against ourselves for a player we may not even want? His low OBP frightens me, as he is a career .251 avg, .305 OBP hitter. Any slip in that batting average and we are talking about a hitter who majorly struggles to get on base. His defense is not good enough to offset that either.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2018 -> 09:25 AM) Micker is among the top offensive ceilings in the entire system. He just is young, and has lost a lot of time due to injury. He has a long way to get to that ceiling, but he also has made very big progress in 2017. If he keeps up the pace in 2018, he could well enter top 100 lists. He has huge power potential and Aaron Rowand compared his arm to Vlad Guerrero in RF. Hit tool has a long way to go before he will sniff top 100 lists. 149 k's in low A ball is a big red flag to me for what is to come against better pitching in the high minors.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Feb 21, 2018 -> 08:10 AM) Recently I've seen Micker Adolfo's name surface more frequently in Sox coverage and it's always been VERY positive. It makes me wonder why we don't talk about him more and why he's not on more people's projected lineups in our contending years. For those of you who are up on this sort of thing...is there a bigger reason (other than injury history) why he's not mentioned more in our top prospect conversations? Seems like this guy is healthy and a beast in the making. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0220-story.html https://sports.yahoo.com/chris-getz-describ...-194919118.html Up until 2017, Micker had really underperformed considering his lofty international prospect status when we signed him. He has tons of talent, but will need to prove himself against better competition in high A Winston Salem this year. Strikeouts are still and issue, but the increase in home runs is encouraging. His first half of the season will tell us alot about his future as a prospect.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 21, 2018 -> 08:09 AM) It’s not just about the pick, but the bonus pool as well. The 2018 draft is supposed to be deep and it doesn’t sound like there will be a ton of seperation between the guys we’ll be considering at #4 (still early obviously). Therefore, there may be a legit under-slot play to made there, which could allow us to allocate bonus pool later on and take advantage of this draft’s depth. We’ll be in a much stronger position to execute such a strategy if we keep the #45 pick and it’s corresponding bonus pool. This is not the year to blow a high draft pick IMO, especially since we can stack penalties next year and lessen the overall impact if we sign multiple tendered guys. I agree^ Having more flexibility in an important draft is important for the White Sox. The #45 pick lat year had a $1.523 million draft pool along with it. Potentially going underslot #4 opens up the possibility to go overslot in the second round to snap a top talent.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 01:39 AM) With the A's or some s***. Many of the players we audition this year will not be with the team after 2018 I'm feeling. The ones who prove themselves will stick, but many of the fringe guys will be replaced with better players via free agency, the farm or trade.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 12:24 PM) My BA handbook came in the mail last night. The White Sox top 30 is interesting. There are a bunch of relievers and they apparently love the 2017 draft. Sox are ranked as the #4 system in baseball. 1. Eloy Jimenez OF 2. Michael Kopech RHP 3. Alec Hansen RHP 4. Luis Robert OF 5. Dane Dunning RHP 6. Zack Collins C 7. Jake Burger 3B 8. Blake Rutherford OF 9. Gavin Sheets 1B 10. Dylan Cease RHP 11. Zack Burdi RHP 12. Spencer Adams RHP 13. Carson Fulmer RHP 14. Luis Gonzalez OF 15. AJ Puckett RHP 16. Jordan Stephens RHP 17. Micker Adolfo OF 18. Luis Alexander Basabe OF 19. Lincoln Henzman RHP 20. Thyago Vieira RHP 21. Alex Call OF 22. Ian Clarkin LHP 23. Ian Hamilton RHP 24. Tyler Johnson RHP 25. Jordan Guerrero LHP 26. Bernardo Flores LHP 27. Tito Polo OF 28. Lenyn Sosa SS 29. Seby Zavala C 30. Connor Walsh RHP 31. Yeyson Yrizarri SS Sheets above Cease is a surprise for me^ Why are they so low on Zavala? How many minor league catchers hit as well as he did last year?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 08:24 PM) And pitchers just don’t have the longevity anymore. One more major Giolito injury and Lopez/Fulmer going to the bullpen and we’re suddenly back to Kopech/Hansen/Cease/Dunning and a bunch of unknowns, especially with Rodon’s status so up in the air. That would require filling at least one major rotation hole in free agency, instead of filling two holes in the starting lineup with the MLB equivalent of LBJ and Paul George. If you could pencil in All Star next to Tim Anderson and Carlos Rodon’s names in 2019, it would be much easier to feel 100% confident. Being realistic, I can see us being in the market for a significant position player, starting pitcher and bullpen help next offseason. Our payroll will be low enough to allow for several marquee signings to be made. Ideally we can fill the rotation from within, I just doubt that happens without us going after a top free agent starter like Keuchel for example.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 07:23 PM) If they have a lower payroll in 2019 than in 2018 you may brag and consider yourself vindicated because I'm going to be seriously pissed off too. I do not believe that will happen at all. If the Sox do not open up the checkbook next offseason then I would fully expect the pitchforks to come out.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 06:23 PM) Great points above. I feel like our window will be open much longer than the cubs’. The waves of arms will just keep coming. I’m skeptical that we will be able to replicate the cubs success until we see these top prospects producing. The talent is there, but they did not miss too many times. I’m absolutely willing to be patient, but the front office better be aggressive when the time comes.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 06:34 PM) 1) They are rebuilding as cheaply as possible. 2) They are rebuilding as cheaply as possible. 3) They are rebuilding as cheaply as possible. Money saved now could lead to spending more in future seasons once we are ready to compete. Foolish free agent spending would come back to haunt us, as we need to build from within and supplement with free agents when ready.