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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:20 AM) Well that's underwhelming. Guy apparently can play a quality center field, might be a decent 4/5th outfielder?

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:17 AM) Yay more outfielders. Thought we were short on AAAA guys there. Carlos Tocci Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 30 | Run: 55 | Arm: 50 | Field: 55 | Overall: 45 When Tocci first signed with the Phillies back in 2011, the farm system was a little thin, so despite lacking physical strength, he was pushed to full-season ball aggressively in '13. He spent parts of three seasons there as a result, finally making it out of Lakewood for good in 2016. He capped a solid season there by hitting .323 in the Venezuelan Winter League and finishing fifth in on-base percentage, then followed that up with a solid showing in his move up to Double-A in 2017. Tocci has long shown a strong hit tool, making consistent contact to all fields and rarely striking out. His willingness to draw walks in Venezuela is a good sign as well. What Tocci continues to lack, however, is strength. He has no power to speak of, and he has the tendency to wear down over the course of the season because he hasn't been able to add the strength necessary to hold up. He is an excellent defender in center field and if he were a basestealing threat, the Phillies probably would have had to add him to the 40-man roster last offseason to protect him from the Rule 5 Draft. Instead, he's still in the organization and performing well in the upper levels for the first time, and at the age of 21 for almost all of the 2017 season.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:15 AM) Baseball America‏Verified account @BaseballAmerica 7s8 seconds ago More The #Giants select RHP Julian Fernandez with the 2nd pick of the Rule 5 Draft. Philly takes Burdi Carlos Tocci?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:10 AM) You'd pretty much be buying a 7-month negotiation window. Then you could flip to recover some value in July. Soxtalk would be furious if we deal Kopech, this is a fact

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) @barstoolWSD This is some conjecture/ some scoopage, but asked around and am pretty sure Kopech is off limits in a Machado deal FWIW I trust Dave. Eloy/Moncada/Kopech/Robert/Collins/Hansen should be off limits for sure Not sure how us going for Machado makes sense right now, but I will trust Hahn and Co. (although this has the stench of Kenny Williams)

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) They expect SF to grab Burdi at 2 Victor Reyes from AZ goes first overall

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:36 PM) Sox should be all over Yelich. I don't know the logistics though. Cost to acquire Yelich likely is very very high. 25 year old quality center fielders under control for 5 years generally do not get traded.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:26 PM) Wouldn't it be crazy if the Yankees grabbed him? Just a one year rental, but still. Gardner Judge Stanton Machado Bird Sanchez Gregorius Hicks Torres Yikes that lineup is terrifying

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 04:58 PM) There is such a wide disparity about expectations for Avi, going forward. Wouldn't it be interesting to conduct a poll, in which everyone could offer their own projections, regarding what kind of year they expect Avi to have? Irrespective of whether, or not, he's traded, I'd just love to see how close some of us might end up being. Maybe more interesting; how far off some of us might be. While nobody expects Avi to put up a repeat of 2017, you do not end up batting .330 over an entire season strictly by luck. Sure that average is inflated a bit, but he still showed improvement at the plate. Avi absolutely murdered lefties batting .424 against them, albeit with over a .500 BABIP. It's not absurd to think he could be a .290+ hitter with 15-20 home runs next season, which is still a solid player

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 03:38 PM) I think Leury Garcia will get a nice bulk of time in CF (to start the year anyway). I don't really want a position player unless they deal Garcia in the next like 18 hours. Nestor Cortes just seems like one of those guys who can end up producing if given an opportunity. He's not that big, his stuff is not great, but it's hard to ignore how well he has produced.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) I like Ramos alot. Ramos + Anderson + Williams? Sox would have to really like Ramos to make that deal though

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) Machado makes no sense- that's pure wishcasting to believe that 1 year of his services would substantively help the Sox. Yelich makes some sense (although one might wonder why trade Eaton then) - could possibly turn Abreu/Avi into Yelich with a 3 or 4-way deal. And the other thing is that Machado did have a lousy year last year; certainly would like to see a substantive rebound from that before going all in. I agree with that. Another season like 2017 and I think teams might pump the brakes a bit on giving him a mega contract. His age will ensure he gets paid, but another (2.8 - 3.5 WAR) season might end up costing him as teams weigh whether that is worth $30+ million per year. If Machado puts up a big year expect his price to skyrocket.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 03:17 PM) I have a feeling a team isn't going to need to overpay for Garcia or anything. Perhaps, but I would not just trade Avi for the sake of trading him. If he is having a good season he could be dealt at the deadline?

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 03:13 PM) The astros on the other hand had the benefit at the time of a much more exploitable latin american signing period and comp draft pick structure. The marlins will not be able to add the sheer number of players the astros did as easily. Very true, with the new international free agency rules in place it makes it much harder for a rebuilding club to scoop up tons of young talent. With the Nationals being strong, Braves on the rise, Phillies already into their rebuild, the Marlins face a tough road ahead. I like the White Sox outlook much more.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 01:22 PM) Giants lost out on Ozuna, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them go for Avi now. Not much in the SF farm that the Sox would want though. Arroyo? Ramos? Beyond them their system is scary thin on talent. Jordan Gonzalez?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) It would certainly appear to be that way. To be fair, prior to this year, Ozuna had been as streaky as they come, so I'm sure that plays a part in this as well. This rebuild was absolutely calculated and virtually everything taken into consideration. Different situations for sure, but I feel so bad for anyone that calls themselves a Marlins fan right now. From Fernandez' death, to completely gutting the team for what I consider to be a mediocre return (for now), the Marlins have become an embarrassment.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) The White Sox had to deal Quintana too. That one worked out OK. White Sox seem to be better negotiators than the Marlins

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) You know this how? He kinda just has to shutup and play honestly. I don't remember him being outspoken towards the Marlins like Stanton has like every year the past few years. Yelich is not going to want to stick around during a rebuild. Having an unhappy player in the clubhouse would not be a good thing at all. Joel Sherman‏Verified account @Joelsherman1 9m9 minutes ago More Alcantara is big piece going to #Marlins in 4-player package, hear other 3 are minor leaguers of less ilk #Stlcards Wow, if Alcantara is the best piece heading to the Marlins I am calling right now about Yelich^

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:36 PM) I'm gathering that Avisail has no market. Perhaps Avi could have a market when the Marlins talent feeding frenzy ends. Yelich is as good as gone after the Ozuna deal.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:24 PM) Yelich should bring back a few legit prospects so I don't see the fit here. 25, 5 years left of control and more pop in his bat than Eaton. Like I said above, it takes more than that deal. In theory, yes it should. Remember we are dealing with a fire sale Marlins organization right now and Yelich will be requesting a trade. They essentially have to trade him or they will have a very upset player on their hands. The Sox did not have to deal Eaton unless the return was great, I can't say the same for the Marlins and Yelich now as they have lost leverage.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) I can't think of a scenario that would work, and still be realistic. Agreed. Short of the Angels calling us and offering Mike Trout, Kopech and Hansen are not getting traded with each knocking on the major league door within the next 12 months. I like Yelich as a player, but if the Marlins insisted on an untouchable being including I would have to say no. The rebuild is progressing and I do not want to blow it up prematurely.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:12 PM) Jon Heyman LINK now alcantara goes to malrins in ozuna deal I'll guess Jack Flaherty + Sandy Alcantara + Piscotty or Grichuk for Ozuna

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 01:29 PM) I don't think you could snag Yelich without trading Kopech or Hansen I can't see Hahn moving Kopech or Hansen given the extreme cost of quality free agent starting pitching. If Miami would entertain a package of our second tier prospects (Lopez, Cease, Rutherford, Burger, Dunning, Adams, Fulmer) then I think we would be interested. Moncada/Giolito/Jimenez/Robert/Kopech/Hansen should be considered core untouchables in my opinion (short of trading for a superstar).

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) Swarzak to Mets. 2 years 14 mil Jon Heyman‏Verified account @JonHeyman 6m6 minutes ago More Rockies are closing in on deal to bring Greg Holland back Rockies really opening up the checkbook on bullpen arms. Holland, McGee and Shaw

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 12:18 PM) Or you are getting good value before Cease loses any chance to be considered a starter and Rutherford loses trade value if he continues his hitting struggles. Also don't know how Marlins feel about Blake as they have some former Yanks executives over there now Given how expensive relief pitching is, 6+ seasons of control on a guy with two plus pitches and a good arm is still very valuable in the pen^