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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:02 PM) That's why I don't care about prospects and why I get excited when a guy like Davidson actually shows promise on a big league diamond. I'm totally outnumbered though, as prospects and the mystery of the future are sexy. And even though a guy like Davidson had some incredible moments this season and was headed for 30 home runs before he got hurt, he's considered a bum. I truly hope you rebuild people are correct and our organization dominates the AL for years to come. Home runs are only one stat, and you are ignoring every other aspect of Davidson's game. We have been over this before. He does not make enough contact or draw enough walks to be a starting caliber player on a decent team. His defense is also graded as being considerably below average. .278 on base % is NOT good for any mlb player, regardless of home runs.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 08:39 AM) I actually saw an article where a scout comped him to Miggy. Everything I have seen suggests that Jimenez has the potential to be a 50/55 hit tool combined with 70 game power. I have yet to see a hit tool comp that would be anywhere near Miguel Cabrera's, who is a sure fire 1st ballot hall of famer. Is Jermaine Dye a fair comparison at this point?

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:28 AM) You hate to take aggressiveness and speed away from a guy but I would analyze his sliding to see if a technique issue and while working on it ban him from stealing in a game. This is a pretty minor injury that I would not worry too much about. I would not ban him from stealing in games as he will have plenty of time to rest and recover in the offseason to be fresh for 2018.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) I think this one is better called the "tragic number". Given that we are going through a total rebuild, I think most Sox fans do not mind the losses right now. We might as well maximize our draft positioning since we are not going to the playoffs. Being 8 games back in the division would arguably be worse with a mediocre roster.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) Phil Rogers‏Verified account @philgrogers 3h3 hours ago @whitesox were positioned for sixth pick on July 1. Have gone 7-24 since, moving to threshold of first overall pick next June. https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?...ition=Standings Fangraphs still predicts us to finish 61-101 with the worst record in baseball by three games. I believe it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 09:01 AM) Love it. I mean if they are going to GIVE you something like an 80/90% chance at a hit, you HAVE to take it. We talk about statistics in baseball and odds and run expectancy, this highest possibility has to be when they give you that kind of of a percentage at a base hit versus any of the other odds. The solution for beating the shift is being willing to occasionally lay down successful bunts to get on base. Eventually teams will stop shifting if you continue to do that. A bunt down the third base line is extremely difficult for a pitcher to deal with, so anything in play that goes more than 10 feet is likely to be a hit.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) Nelson Cruz/Stanton are probably the best comps out there... The power came later in the career of Cruz, as he didn't start really hitting home runs until age 28. I think Jimenez has the potential to be a 30+ home run threat in the next 2-3 season at the mlb level if he continues to improve like he has. The scary thing is that I don't think he would embarrass himself if he were thrown into the MLB right now. As long as he stays healthy we are looking at a middle of the order bat.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 07:27 PM) A potential 70/70 hit and power tool, there is a lot to be excited about Jimenez. I don't want to jinx it but I think he may be our safest prospect in the system. I'm not sure Jimenez has a potential 70 hit tool. Power? Absolutely, but most scouts seem to think Jimenez will be an above average hitter in the 55/60 grade realm. 70 hit and 70 power = unreal I could see Jimenez being a similar player to Giancarlo Stanton at ceiling, which is a very good player.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 03:22 AM) You are all such bundles of joy. And Hi8tis if we lose the top pick by 1 game you can cry about every one of the wins, The tank will go on but this is what we all wanted. Now that the vets have been purged we are left with the youth and we also want it to do well. Wins will occasionally happen when our pitchers do not give up more than 5 runs. So be happy for wins without reminding us we still need to lose and we suck. We are all aware of that fact. We don't have to worry about the Sox consistently winning games the rest of the season. A blind squirrel will find a nut every once and awhile though. The Astros also do not have Springer and Correa in the lineup, which makes a huge difference. We are still projected to finish 61-101, worst record in the mlb

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) Yeah unless your name is Joel Booker I wouldn't really worry about finding a spot. But Fisher/Booker are going to feel the squeeze. CF as well might be less than ideal for full reps. Basabe/Rutherford are likely to run into each other unless Basabe has a really good august that lends Wsox to think that this trend of slow adjustment/strong second half is worth pushing into AA. Fisher and Booker have become pretty fringy prospects anyways. Each are 23 years old and are flirting with the Mendoza line in A+ ball. I'm not totally writing either of them off, but they are trending towards organizational depth rapidly as better prospects enter our system.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) The problem CWS is pointing out is that there's already a glut destined for WS next year and there's no room for Dedelow at WS. As things look right now, the starting OF for WS would be Adolfo/Rutherford/Gonzalez with Fisher and Call on the bench. No room for Dedelow. Only way to not only make room for Dedelow but also get him playing time would be to ( as has been suggested ) move Fisher to 1B and move Call to Birmingham which would leave WS with four outfielders and Fisher as a 5th OF. Or, move both Fisher and Call to Birmingham which I admit , neither are worthy of at this time. This is quite the conundrum. I don't see an issue with starting Dedelow out in A ball next season. If he performs well I'm sure they can make room for him in WS?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) X-rays were negative. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/894965458985725952 Lets hope he can put these nagging injuries behind him and remain healthy. He needs to be ready to go in Kannapolis in 2018.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) Good thing about a 60-win team is they are more likely to trade you to a 90 win team if you do well, vs signing to a bubble 75-78 win team that misses playoffs. Lucroy might struggle to get a major league contract after how poor his season has been. He has is a below replacement level player. Anything more than a 1 year deal is not happening.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 08:04 AM) You're missing my point. Winston-Salem is going to be loaded with outfielders next year. Rutherford, Adolfo, Fisher, Call, & Gonzlaez are all candidates to land there. Robert will be up at some point. Booker & Schnurbusch probably deserve playing time there as well. Even with injuries, Dedelow is going to struggle to push his way into an everyday role at Winston-Salem. For that reason I think Dedelow will be getting regular playing time in A ball. If he continues to perform then the Sox will find a way to move him up. Skoug is proving why he fell so far in the draft, he absolutely can't make enough contact.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 09:19 AM) With as full as some of the levels are, and with as many guys have been cut in the last month or so, I am guessing that there won't be a lot of last season move ups. It might be different if some of the upper levels had playoff teams. As of right now the only playoff team we have is Kannapolis, so moving kids out of there would actually mean them losing ABs and playoff experience. The White Sox do seem to like their guys to get that experience, so I see zero chance that guys like Sheets, Adolfo, Fisher, Rutherford, Burger, Gonzalez, etc who are in Kanny are promoted. I do not foresee many late season promotions as well^ Expect guys like Burger, Sheets, Adolfo, etc to be in Winston Salem to start next season

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 09:05 AM) One thing to keep in mind was Hostetler did say he would have taken Zack Collins 1-1, and he wasn't exactly known for his defensive prowess, but this will be a whole different set of players. Maybe it's still early but it's too bad there isn't a ARod or Ken Griffey Jr. out there, a no brainer #1. He would have drafted Collins over Senzel? That would be a bad choice as he is now seen as a top 15 overall prospect. Remains to be seen, but it would be great to land a truly elite prospect in the 2018 draft.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 08:25 AM) I don't understand the thought process behind those that "don't believe" it's a rebuild and JR is just being cheap, and wanting to spend bad money on free agents just to prove a point. JD Martinez? Jake Arrieta? Those are bad long term investments for all 30 MLB teams. I saw that post and thought the notion seemed pretty absurd. We are not going to spend any significant money in free agency. We will be dollar store shoppers this offseason.

QUOTE (GermanSock @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 07:38 PM) I only consider beer Top3 when he truely has another monster year and is far and away the best college hitter. If he has another good year like last season (1000 ops) he is good but not top10 talent. But if he has a 1200 ops like in his first year his bat might be so good that position doesn't matter so much. But at a 1000 ops he is just another good college bat he might be a corner of best case and 1b/DH worst case. If I get beer with a 1000 ops and a shortstop with a little 950 ops the choice should be pretty easily against beer. But if he truely dominates and is heads and holders above any other college hitter he might be worth taking a shot. Scouting reports I have read indicate that Beer is a 1B/DH as a professional and will not stick in the outfield. I'm not sure I want to role the dice with a top 3 draft pick on a bat only player. We have plenty of time to scout and decide what the best possible option is. I'm not ruling out Beer, but I feel he's unlikely to end up being our selection.

QUOTE (MEANS @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) The #WhiteSox have claimed infielder D.J. Peterson off waivers from the Seattle Mariners and optioned him to Class AAA Charlotte. These are the type of low risk moves a rebuilding club should be making. Hopefully we can unearth some decent value from guys like Lirano, Tilsen, Cordell, Peterson, Delmonico, etc.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) Yup. Again, the dude was putting up incredible numbers as a freshman. Even with a subpar sophomore year with extremely bad luck, he still put up sick numbers. The sox have already proven with their recent picks they advocate hit tools, power and high OBP and not so much about defensive accolade. Do I necessarily agree with it? Not really, but that also doesn't mean they can't improve with the glove. Burger and Collins for example were not drafted because of their defense. Again, if the draft were held today, I'm probably not picking him. It just seems like posters are more "in the now" from who has helium in regards to prospects. I'd much rather roll with a top arm or up the middle prospect like SS or CF if drafting in the top 3 picks. Most solid mlb first baseman should rake already, they are not hard to find. Drafting that high we should be looking for a potential franchise player at a key position. I don't see Beer being that pick, because he offers zero defensive value if the bat is not stellar.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Good post. They can't lead guys like Delmonico and Moncada to victory in AAA, but should have no problem doing it in the majors with no bullpen and garbage everywhere else, all the while, learning the major league game. LMAO. The fact is, they could improve the current roster 15 games, which is beyond doubtful, and it's still a 95 loss team. If this current roster was in place since opening day, they lose a minimum of 110, and probably more. You're the irrational one. Sox fans need to be prepared for the team to be just as bad in 2018 as we have seen in the past month. Zero money will be spent in free agency outside of the bargain bin retreads like Swarzak/Pelfrey/Holland, etc. On the bright side, we have the 2018 and 2019 drafts to look forward to, as well as having tons of money to spend in 2018/2019 free agency. Sox have barely any money on the books beyond next season and the club should be in the mix for impact free agents.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 01:27 PM) He may be a top 5 talent, but why are we passing on a top two talent for him? If there is a pitcher with ace potential or a five tool SS or CF prospect (even if HS), you take that player every day of the week over an offense-only player like Beer. Again, don't get cute when you have a top two pick in the draft, take the BPA and find ways to leverage your bonus pool elsewhere in the draft. I wouldn't be shocked to see Seth Beer fall out of the top 10 in what is looking like a loaded 2018 draft class. 1B/DH types are honestly dime a dozen in the majors.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) If Lopez does come up, is it for good or are we going to send him back down to start next year so we can get the extra year of control? I know he had some service time with the Nats, so two more months now means the extra year call up date might be so late it doesn't make sense. Not sure where Lopez is at with regards to service time, but if they are calling him up it should be for good.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) So you tank and get the worst record, and instead of taking the top player on your board, you go underslot so you hope you will have some extra funds for a guy at least 30 picks later? Seems a pretty dumb reason to tank. I'm advocating we tank and draft the best player available, regardless of position. Hopefully we will see separation by next spring as the elite prospects step forward. Beer is a bat only player, which limits his potential upside big time. Outside of the hit/power tools he has below average speed, and is a poor defender.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 12:06 PM) There's really no downside to callung up Kopech after super 2 next year. Let him finish his 160IP with Coop. Or am I missing something? Kopech would need to be added to the 40 man roster in order for that to happen^ Although his past month has been terrific, I'm not sure his control issues are a thing of the past yet. AAA/MLB hitters are more experienced and patient than AA and below, which will force him to continue to work on harnessing his plus stuff. A callup to the mlb should only be when the organization is convinced he can be here to stay. He's only 21 years old right now, why rush his development? The 2018 season will be ugly, and most of our shiny toys will still be in the minors outside of Moncada, Lopez and possibly Giolito. I'm fine with the party starting in 2019/2020.