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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:26 PM) I hope you judge all our players as quickly as you judged Davidson and deemed him incapable of improving on some good performances his rookie season. Like I said on to the next guy. I don't know why we'd waste any more time on Davidson if we know he's a replacement level player. Put somebody else in there to hold the fort for Burger. Will you judge Burger in the same amount of at bats? Burger is 21 years old and in the minors, Davidson is 26 with a track record of not walking or making enough contract. Currently Burger is a significantly better prospect, but the jury is still out on him.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:07 PM) Coop will fix him.....if he needs fixing Not sure what the point of this signing even is.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:57 PM) Robert should move fast IMO. He will likely start 2018 in Kannapolis, but I don't see him staying there long. I think 2020 is a realistic ETA for him. The more I dig into Robert, the happier I get. He has massive potential given his tools, and it's exciting to see what he will be able to do with professional coaching and development. I think mlb.com sells him short with a 50 hit tool given what scouts have said about how nice his swing and bat speed are. Sure, he could flame out, but he also could be one of the best overall prospects in baseball by this time next year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:43 PM) Robert is a really difficult one to predict. Until we get him to the point where we can see where he is ready and where he is raw, we don't know if he will be here soon, or more of a traditional path. In theory with his international experience he could zoom through especially the lower levels of the minors. It wouldn't shock me at all if he were quickly in AA in 2018. It also wouldn't shock me if he wasn't in Chicago until next decade. There is more unknown with him than literally any other player the White Sox control right now. I agree there are plenty of unknowns with Robert outside of him being in Kannapolis to start 2018. At age 18 Robert put up scary good numbers in the Cuban professional league, so theoretically he should be more advanced than your average international prospect. I don't put much into DSL stats because it's not representative of the competition he will face even in A ball stateside. The talent is there, and I think he will be a very fun player for us to follow.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) I give up. You guys are looking for a certain type of ballplayer and Davidson doesn't fit the bill. I wish we'd just release him now so I don't have to hear what a non prospect he is. Fields hit 23 home runs in 2007, then 10 homers the rest of his career. So that is a perfect comparison if Davidson is done producing at age 26. Davidson will get 2017 and 2018 to show us that he can improve, but I highly doubt he is on our roster in anything more than a bench role by 2019/2020. Good players do not have an on base % of .278 given the amount of playing time he has received. Davidson is what he is, a replacement level player.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) Robert is going to be fine. I don't think it's unreasonable to say let's just write off his 2017 and get excited when he joins Kanny next April. Also, CWS is right on with the tax implications of keeping him in the DR. If that's the price to pay than so be it. Right now I see a realistic track for Robert to be: Start 2018 season in A ball, with the possibility of promotion to A+ with good performance. I expect a player with his pedigree to thrive and show us what he's got. Start 2019 should be in A+ ball or possibly AA if everything breaks right for him.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:35 PM) also A.J Puckett's WS debut Fulmer should be converted to being a reliever sooner rather than later. Barring a massive turnaround I do not see the future rotation having room for him. He should focus on becoming a quality reliever, which is still a very valuable player.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:02 PM) That's why I don't care about prospects and why I get excited when a guy like Davidson actually shows promise on a big league diamond. I'm totally outnumbered though, as prospects and the mystery of the future are sexy. And even though a guy like Davidson had some incredible moments this season and was headed for 30 home runs before he got hurt, he's considered a bum. I truly hope you rebuild people are correct and our organization dominates the AL for years to come. Home runs are only one stat, and you are ignoring every other aspect of Davidson's game. We have been over this before. He does not make enough contact or draw enough walks to be a starting caliber player on a decent team. His defense is also graded as being considerably below average. .278 on base % is NOT good for any mlb player, regardless of home runs.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 08:39 AM) I actually saw an article where a scout comped him to Miggy. Everything I have seen suggests that Jimenez has the potential to be a 50/55 hit tool combined with 70 game power. I have yet to see a hit tool comp that would be anywhere near Miguel Cabrera's, who is a sure fire 1st ballot hall of famer. Is Jermaine Dye a fair comparison at this point?

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:28 AM) You hate to take aggressiveness and speed away from a guy but I would analyze his sliding to see if a technique issue and while working on it ban him from stealing in a game. This is a pretty minor injury that I would not worry too much about. I would not ban him from stealing in games as he will have plenty of time to rest and recover in the offseason to be fresh for 2018.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) I think this one is better called the "tragic number". Given that we are going through a total rebuild, I think most Sox fans do not mind the losses right now. We might as well maximize our draft positioning since we are not going to the playoffs. Being 8 games back in the division would arguably be worse with a mediocre roster.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) Phil Rogers‏Verified account @philgrogers 3h3 hours ago @whitesox were positioned for sixth pick on July 1. Have gone 7-24 since, moving to threshold of first overall pick next June. https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?...ition=Standings Fangraphs still predicts us to finish 61-101 with the worst record in baseball by three games. I believe it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 09:01 AM) Love it. I mean if they are going to GIVE you something like an 80/90% chance at a hit, you HAVE to take it. We talk about statistics in baseball and odds and run expectancy, this highest possibility has to be when they give you that kind of of a percentage at a base hit versus any of the other odds. The solution for beating the shift is being willing to occasionally lay down successful bunts to get on base. Eventually teams will stop shifting if you continue to do that. A bunt down the third base line is extremely difficult for a pitcher to deal with, so anything in play that goes more than 10 feet is likely to be a hit.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) Nelson Cruz/Stanton are probably the best comps out there... The power came later in the career of Cruz, as he didn't start really hitting home runs until age 28. I think Jimenez has the potential to be a 30+ home run threat in the next 2-3 season at the mlb level if he continues to improve like he has. The scary thing is that I don't think he would embarrass himself if he were thrown into the MLB right now. As long as he stays healthy we are looking at a middle of the order bat.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 07:27 PM) A potential 70/70 hit and power tool, there is a lot to be excited about Jimenez. I don't want to jinx it but I think he may be our safest prospect in the system. I'm not sure Jimenez has a potential 70 hit tool. Power? Absolutely, but most scouts seem to think Jimenez will be an above average hitter in the 55/60 grade realm. 70 hit and 70 power = unreal I could see Jimenez being a similar player to Giancarlo Stanton at ceiling, which is a very good player.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 03:22 AM) You are all such bundles of joy. And Hi8tis if we lose the top pick by 1 game you can cry about every one of the wins, The tank will go on but this is what we all wanted. Now that the vets have been purged we are left with the youth and we also want it to do well. Wins will occasionally happen when our pitchers do not give up more than 5 runs. So be happy for wins without reminding us we still need to lose and we suck. We are all aware of that fact. We don't have to worry about the Sox consistently winning games the rest of the season. A blind squirrel will find a nut every once and awhile though. The Astros also do not have Springer and Correa in the lineup, which makes a huge difference. We are still projected to finish 61-101, worst record in the mlb

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) Yeah unless your name is Joel Booker I wouldn't really worry about finding a spot. But Fisher/Booker are going to feel the squeeze. CF as well might be less than ideal for full reps. Basabe/Rutherford are likely to run into each other unless Basabe has a really good august that lends Wsox to think that this trend of slow adjustment/strong second half is worth pushing into AA. Fisher and Booker have become pretty fringy prospects anyways. Each are 23 years old and are flirting with the Mendoza line in A+ ball. I'm not totally writing either of them off, but they are trending towards organizational depth rapidly as better prospects enter our system.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) The problem CWS is pointing out is that there's already a glut destined for WS next year and there's no room for Dedelow at WS. As things look right now, the starting OF for WS would be Adolfo/Rutherford/Gonzalez with Fisher and Call on the bench. No room for Dedelow. Only way to not only make room for Dedelow but also get him playing time would be to ( as has been suggested ) move Fisher to 1B and move Call to Birmingham which would leave WS with four outfielders and Fisher as a 5th OF. Or, move both Fisher and Call to Birmingham which I admit , neither are worthy of at this time. This is quite the conundrum. I don't see an issue with starting Dedelow out in A ball next season. If he performs well I'm sure they can make room for him in WS?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) X-rays were negative. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/894965458985725952 Lets hope he can put these nagging injuries behind him and remain healthy. He needs to be ready to go in Kannapolis in 2018.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) Good thing about a 60-win team is they are more likely to trade you to a 90 win team if you do well, vs signing to a bubble 75-78 win team that misses playoffs. Lucroy might struggle to get a major league contract after how poor his season has been. He has is a below replacement level player. Anything more than a 1 year deal is not happening.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 08:04 AM) You're missing my point. Winston-Salem is going to be loaded with outfielders next year. Rutherford, Adolfo, Fisher, Call, & Gonzlaez are all candidates to land there. Robert will be up at some point. Booker & Schnurbusch probably deserve playing time there as well. Even with injuries, Dedelow is going to struggle to push his way into an everyday role at Winston-Salem. For that reason I think Dedelow will be getting regular playing time in A ball. If he continues to perform then the Sox will find a way to move him up. Skoug is proving why he fell so far in the draft, he absolutely can't make enough contact.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 09:19 AM) With as full as some of the levels are, and with as many guys have been cut in the last month or so, I am guessing that there won't be a lot of last season move ups. It might be different if some of the upper levels had playoff teams. As of right now the only playoff team we have is Kannapolis, so moving kids out of there would actually mean them losing ABs and playoff experience. The White Sox do seem to like their guys to get that experience, so I see zero chance that guys like Sheets, Adolfo, Fisher, Rutherford, Burger, Gonzalez, etc who are in Kanny are promoted. I do not foresee many late season promotions as well^ Expect guys like Burger, Sheets, Adolfo, etc to be in Winston Salem to start next season

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 09:05 AM) One thing to keep in mind was Hostetler did say he would have taken Zack Collins 1-1, and he wasn't exactly known for his defensive prowess, but this will be a whole different set of players. Maybe it's still early but it's too bad there isn't a ARod or Ken Griffey Jr. out there, a no brainer #1. He would have drafted Collins over Senzel? That would be a bad choice as he is now seen as a top 15 overall prospect. Remains to be seen, but it would be great to land a truly elite prospect in the 2018 draft.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 08:25 AM) I don't understand the thought process behind those that "don't believe" it's a rebuild and JR is just being cheap, and wanting to spend bad money on free agents just to prove a point. JD Martinez? Jake Arrieta? Those are bad long term investments for all 30 MLB teams. I saw that post and thought the notion seemed pretty absurd. We are not going to spend any significant money in free agency. We will be dollar store shoppers this offseason.

QUOTE (GermanSock @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 07:38 PM) I only consider beer Top3 when he truely has another monster year and is far and away the best college hitter. If he has another good year like last season (1000 ops) he is good but not top10 talent. But if he has a 1200 ops like in his first year his bat might be so good that position doesn't matter so much. But at a 1000 ops he is just another good college bat he might be a corner of best case and 1b/DH worst case. If I get beer with a 1000 ops and a shortstop with a little 950 ops the choice should be pretty easily against beer. But if he truely dominates and is heads and holders above any other college hitter he might be worth taking a shot. Scouting reports I have read indicate that Beer is a 1B/DH as a professional and will not stick in the outfield. I'm not sure I want to role the dice with a top 3 draft pick on a bat only player. We have plenty of time to scout and decide what the best possible option is. I'm not ruling out Beer, but I feel he's unlikely to end up being our selection.