The Mighty Mite

Only time will tell. Like I said in a previous post in this thread, if we see the same Moncada a year from now there will be some big time cause for concern. Hey, I'm pulling for the guy just like every other player that has put on a Sox uniform since I became a fan in 1952.

The first thing I did when we traded for Moncada was to look at his Minor league stats and said to myself; what's so great about this guy that we traded away the best pitcher in the AL for him. A friend of mine who is a Red Sox fan told me what bothered him was giving up Basabe in the trade to us but not Moncada.

No, whatever happens the worst trade ever was the Cubs trading Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio followed by the A's trading Nellie Fox for Joe Tipton.

He seems to have a really great game once in awhile and we all think he has turned the corner, not sure if he's going to live up to all the hype bestowed on him. One thing is, I'm not wild abut him batting leadoff, bat him 6 or 7. Too early to give up on him, if he's having a hard time a year from now I would say there would be some cause for concern.

That's depressing.

When we moved to Florida in 1993, the Sox were doing well in attendance and it was close to how many In the Metro were Sox fans or Cub fans, it was around 50/50 back then, any guesses to the ratio these days, is it 60/40 in favor of the Cubs or even 66/33? Based on attendance figures lately it's more like 66/33.

I almost hit the ceiling in the front room when the Sox won the AL Pennant on Sept. 22, 1959.

Played Golf in the AM, came home, had lunch and then watched the game on WGN when they were still televising nationwide.

I also thought those trades were bad but somehow the Sox won more games than any other team in the years of 63, 64 and 65. They won 94 in 63, 98 in 1964 and 95 in 1965 and had nothing to show for it.

Going back to the late 50s the Sox thought they had the next Mickey Mantle in Johnny Callison. He played a little bit in 1959 season but Veeck traded him in the off season with a few more very good prospects who all had very nice ML careers.

I think we should keep Sanchez in addition to the obvious players. Yolmer will make a fine utility infielder and is a good guy to have around.

Thanks, he did have LTP, IIRC he hit one that landed on the concourse out in deep right center.

I give up, who was LTP?

Excellent post and may I add that I trust KW and Hahn about as far as I can throw them in seeing a successful rebuild to where the Sox are yearly contenders for many years. The franchise needed entirely new blood in the Front Office much like the Cubs did when they brought in Theo. I'm 72 and probably don't have many rebuilds left on the horizon so I hoping the current one works but I'm not holding my breath

John Cangelosi, I thought he would be our best lead off man since Luis Aparicio.

Living in Florida I watch just about every Rays game. This past off-season the FO surprised everybody down here by trading or not re-signing a bunch of players who were damn good last year, Longoria, Dickerson, Morrison, Souza, Cobb and a few others. I thought that the FO was throwing in the towel on a new stadium and would piss off the fan base and attendance would be so bad that 5,000 would be an nice crowd and would pave the way for a move to another city. Well lo and behold the new guys are playing some really good ball with guys like Duffy, Ramos, Bauers and Snell leading the way. Swept the Yankees last week and just took 2 of 3 from the Astros. They are fun to watch and play sound fundamental ball, not like another team I happen to follow. They actually remind of the team of my youth, the GO-GO SOX OF THE 50s and 60s.

The franchise has become a laughingstock.

The Orioles pitching is worse than ours, if he can't help them, how is he going to help us.

What's the point of going down to Charlotte to rehab, let him rehab with the big club, it's not like he's going hurt the team, it can't get much worse.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) RR is the best....at losing He's managing a AAA team, maybe worse. When we lose today the Sox will be 4-23 since the All-Star break. I've been a fan since 1952, this is the low point, we are down there with whale ****.

QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:23 PM) I'm not sure ive seen a team lose this much.... like 2 wins since the all star break? I can't remember anything like this. You can't expect much more, right now this is a AAA team but I guess that's how a rebuild works.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:54 PM) Yes, but you probably planned your retirement with that amount. I am sure Shields has some sophisticated financial planners and such that have already worked the $23 million into his retirement. He might not ever need it, but you never know. Walking away from $23 million is something g not many would do. One thing we can be damn sure on is that his agent is telling him; don't you dare retire.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) So you would retire in his situation? I highly doubt you would. You have no idea what I would do, everything is relative, back in 1993 I gave up quite a few years in pension time and took an early retirement so I could move to Florida and never put up with another winter in Chiago.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:30 PM) I would take my lumps for $23 million. Is it that much? I thought he had a year left at 12 million. EDIT.....per Baseball Reference he gets 21 million in 2018 with the Padres picking up 11 million, 2019 there is a 2 million buyout.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:19 PM) Maybe, but I think you are trying to say he should retire. If Shields was 30-0 with an ERA below 1.00, I doubt the Padres or the White Sox would say, you know what, you are outperforming the contract, lets rip it up, and pay you more. So why should he walk away from the money guaranteed to him just because either Father Time and or injury have taken their toll? I know it's hard to walk away from the $$$ but I go back to pride and greed. This guy has already made millions, how much better is he going to live if he hangs around until his contract is over.