I’m not sure about surviving this mess but then again I went through the 68,69 and 1970 years when things were as bad as they got on the field and at the box office. The difference is those teams were bad but didn’t quit and we had some guys like Aparicio, Melton, May, Hermann and Wood who could play the game. We have quite a few on this team who look like they have quit and are also lacking baseball smarts. One more thing is that we all heard that there was dissension on the team last year, there is a possibility it’s still there.