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i feel absolutely no momentum after the weekend. want to know how I know we're not a contender? A real world series contender would EXPECT a sweep of the tigers and then a 3/4 at home against another contender. a split would be considered a disappointment,. For us, a split would be considered a good outcome and we're expecting to lose 3/4. Until that mindset changes, we're not a contender.

Cant wait!! Seriously though -- actively choosing to not involve the white sox in a beautiful summer night. On paper this has the makings of a blowout ... lefty who's struggled and been in and out of the rotation, cut by teams, in and out of the league. Abreu absolutely tees off on him historically. that said, he was a former 1st round pick ... involved in the david price trade ... and if he's ever going to find his form i'm sure it'll be tonight and TLR will just say he had his "stuff" today. If there's a franchise in more disarray than the sox right now its the tigers who took a nice window they had too and just absolutely shut it on their own hands with that javy baez albatross contract. If we walk away with anything less than a sweep it's a disaster weekend. Even if they sweep, i will not watch this team unless they then take 2/3 from Houston. Take 5/6 and I'll start caring. #firetony&frank

It's really eye opening when it's all laid out. To me, it's the bullpen. You don't want to be the Phillies each year and piss away games right and left, but you also don't need to be the Yankees having $50mm in a bullpen, especially as a (puke) mid-market team. Hahn is smart enough to know the constraints he's working within. As such he has to be smart with his money. Now it doesn't help that Crochet was out for the season or that Bummer sucked and was out too. Joe Kelly though? I thought that price was high to start, let alone after learning he put it in his contract that he couldn't pitch back to back games ... like what... that means you know he wasn't fully healthy or were concerned and still gave that money. It's small moves when you're a good team trying to get over the hump to a WS that matter. Wasting the Kelly $$ and Leury $$ (on bullpen/util) is a dumb move. Guys like Leury are a dime a dozen. That's what? $12mm anually pissed away? $35mm over three years? Add in Eaton at his price... were up to $15-20mm annually wasted each year .... that money can land you a real difference maker like Rodon or a Castellanos. You don't win a WS because of Eaton or Kelly or Leury -- you win because of difference makers.

The thing is we don't get em over, or in. This isn't Podsednik single, put pressure on the base paths, steal a base, move him over and then hit a sac fly. That can work, although not as well in todays game. this is get em on, get em picked off, don't tag up, roll over on a ball GIDP.

Leury will be in the lineup today, guess is Seby catches and Grandal at DH. Harrison 1/12 against Greinke, so think you'll see Leury at 2b today. Also i had an epiphany last night. Why do we continue to watch this team? Boredom? Habit? What are we even playing for? Is there really anybody truly who thinks this is a championship roster, even when healthy? Do we really think we can take down the Astros/Yankees/Jays in back to back series? Like with the current setup let's say we win the division ... we likely are hosting either TB/Seattle/Toronto for a 3 game series at home. Let's just say we win that series ... we've now used Cease, Lynn and Gio? And then we go into a Yankees or Houston for a series with like Verlander/Cole v. Kopech or Cueto? say we pull of the unlikely .... then we go again into a series against the Yankees/Jays/Houston for 7 games. With a tired Kopech arm that's getting less impactful by each start, let alone October ... this lineup, these bats, this plate discipline ... and again, lets say we pull off the downright crazy and win that series we're rewarded with the Braves/Dodgers/Padres/Mets for 7 more. Our chances of winning are like 1 in 100. Instead of working ourselves up to be the MN Twins and being happy with a division and a first round exit I am now shifting not caring. I am shifting to cheering against this piss poor team. The only way you see a roster shakeup, FO office shakeup and a managerial firing is via no playoffs. No playoffs = less fans renewing their season ticket packages and that is about the only thing that will wake up JR. $$ is the only language he talks. he doesn't care if the team wins, he cares about money. So here's hoping to a 1-0 Royals win today on a CG from Greinke!

It has to do with Bubic splits against lefties. Lefties have an OPS of 1.094 against Bubic, Righties at .698 It's backwards against the norm, but just the way it is. He's been getting torched by lefties .352ba, .460 OBP. Hence, Sheets. Now, to me? You DH him

I wouldn't get your hopes up ... Bubic has returned quality starts in 4 straight. Those came against Boston, Yankees, Rays and Toronto. The 5th start beyond that was 5.2ip, 3er ... so basically 5 QS in a row. He does struggle against lefties ... but we don't have lefties. Since June and 12 starts his ERA is much closer to the upper 3's. Finally, Yoan, Eloy and Robert are a combined 0-31 against Bubic and Abreu is 2-16. Thats 3-37 from the middle of your lineup. This has the makings of another 3-2, or 2-3 type final.

I'm not the money man haha. JR has it, it's up to him if he wants to go for a title or just piddle around as a AL Central champion who goes home in the ALDS every year. This team as currently constructed is a MN Twins playoff team.

Sale once moved to rotation by Sox pitched: 192ip, 214ip, 174ip, 208, 226, 214, 158, 147ip. That equals 2012-2019. 175ip per year over 8 years. Then TJS. This year has been nothing structural, just some weird injuries - not really going to hold any of it against him this year. Verlander has had one TJS too, so we'll take that out of the equation. We can take the last 8 years of Verlander too? He pitched: 223ip, 214ip, 206ip, 227ip, 133ip, 206ip, 218ip, 238ip for an average 208IP. He's obviously a beast. The idea that Sale is fragile is a bit of a misnomer. he's not verlander, but he's also not Mr. Glass.

big run!

okay. let's regroup in an hour and see how it's going. singer is locked in - and facing someone two times = being able to change game plans. I'd take the locked in pitcher over last few months over the not locked in offense this whole year. I'd call the last game the fluke, not likely to happen again.

I wouldn't watch this game expecting any runs. Nor would I drag Menechinno this game. Singer is coming off a stretch where he went 7ip, zero runs, 1 hit, 10ks against the yankees and 6ip, 12k's against the rays. his whip has been under 1 in 4 games of last 7. He's verrrrry locked in right now. Aug 3 @CWS L, 1-4 L 6.0 0 0 3 6.00 2.00 4.50 0 Jul 28 @NYY L, 0-1 - 7.0 0 0 10 0.00 0.29 12.86 1 Jul 23 TB W, 6-3 - 6.0 0 0 12 1.50 0.83 18.00 1 Jul 13 Det W, 5-2 W 6.0 1 0 6 1.50 2.00 9.00 1 Jul 8 Cle W, 4-3 - 7.0 0 0 5 3.86 0.86 6.43 1 Jul 3 @Det W, 7-4 - 4.2 0 0 9 3.86 1.93 17.36 0 Jun 26 Oak L, 3-5 L 8.1 0 0 5 4.32 0.96 5.40 0

with how singer has been locked in of late this game has 2-1 or 1-0 written all over it. 7ip, 8k's, 1er for singer would be a win in my opinion.

don't disagree there. its definitely a downgrade. but there's a chance it's a downgrade like the time mendick had to fill in earlier in June ... for all the love Anderson gets (or used to get) he really had turned almost into Nicky two strikes outside a few hot streaks. that's a harsh take by me for sure... i also realize a healthy productive anderson is one of the most important players on the team.

But like, it's not true. Leury has put up better numbers in half the Ab's from like the 8-9 hole over the last month. Timmy was absolute trash since his family life spilled into public. Player B is Timmy by the way... Last 30 games: Player A: .286BA, .300OBP, 10 runs, 1 homer, 3rbi Player B: .258BA, .289OBP, 14 runs, 1 homer, 4rbi One is Tim Anderson in 93 AB's, the other is Leury Legend over 49 AB's.

I think the announcement has to do with the suspension. I'm not sure you can serve it from the IL, so you do it this way -- suspension on Sunday/first game of DH. You have Sosa up for 1st game of DH to take his spot while he serves his suspension, Reynaldo comes back and Timmy goes on IL for "Game 2". Suspension served and you're not shorthanded for Game 1 in the infield. That way he doesn't have to serve anything when comes back. Also why they were super quiet about it and why the airport pictures were worth discussing ... smoke = fire

To be fair, we've been with out Tim Anderson for 4-6 weeks already in a way... Last 30 games: Player A: .286BA, .300OBP, 10 runs, 1 homer, 3rbi Player B: .258BA, .289OBP, 14 runs, 1 homer, 4rbi One is Tim Anderson in 93 AB's, the other is Leury Legend over 49 AB's. Take away? In the words of Marshawn Lynch - got to get your mentals right. Balancing a disaster in your home life and then trying to hit major league arms isn't very easy. If I'm even going to spin zone this, it may be helpful to have him out of the locker room for a few weeks ... Let's see if Sosa can step up and take the reigns. If not, Romy is now healthy too batting .471 in August (1 week) with 4HR last week, 10 RBI.

You're right. Thank god we didn't go after Verlander this offseason. Old, coming off TJS, yuck.

I would think so. i think the key is on the deferred part of the contract. It adds an extra $25mm. If the BoSox were going to make a trade I'd guess they'd put all options on the table to see what the return would be. $3/75mm would obviously lessen the return and probably considered about market price for Sale is my guess. (sorry to burst bitter sox fans (red and white) bubble ... he's still an asset, and still an asset worth a lot of money) I also believe that Sale has a player opt-out at the end of 2022, which, call me crazy, i can see him at least exploring considering his age. seems like a guy who's always wanted to bet on himself. Also, as mentioned, these aren't continual structural issues with him, just some bad breaks (literally) on some bones. The BoSox actually rid a bunch of their contracts and don't have too much go-forward so they may actually just want to keep him considering a lot of the money is deferred too. Personal guess? 25% opt-out, 25% traded, 50% he's the opening day starter for the Red Sox next year. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/boston-red-sox/chris-sale-7278/

I love these type of responses ... How is ARM fried? Explain that to me ... In 2021 he came back from TJS and xERA of 3.45 which was on par with 2019 xERA of 3.51. His barrel % was a career low. xba of .232. Season A 4 seam 94.9mph Season B 4 seam 93.4mph Season C 4 seam 93.6mph You tell me which season is which ... Guess what Season A was 2022 (small sample obviously), Season B and C are the same .... one was pre-injury, one was post Spin rate remains fine since returning ... The arm was TJS an injury half the league has. The other injuries as i said below were freak comeback pitch accidents ... and falling off a bike. Tell me how that is his ARM?? I love the lazy thinking from Sox fans that then turn around and critique the front office and tony. I'm not a fan of either, but at least come with actual tangible reasonings. You can't have it both ways and dismiss things like Chris Sale with two word responses based emotional response to him cutting up a jersey or LaRoche but not actually thinking of the baseball aspect.

The 47IP to me is a positive. Obviously TJ isn't the greatest, but realistically it's not the injury it used to be. Guys come back successfully from that all the time. That's the dip in 2020/2021. This year if I remember right was a comebacker during the offseason which cracked his ribs ... then a comebacker when he got back with the BoSox which broke his pinky and now falling off a bike ... just a freak year. It really was one injury and then a bunch of freak injuries. Not ongoing shoulder, forearm or elbow stuff. You'd be getting a FRESH arm after 3 years. The no trade clause, how he left the sox and all of that stuff obviously would need to be understood further and sure hahn knows all of that stuff more. I for one would be totally on board.

Hear me out ... He just broke his wrist and is out for the season. BoSox are obviously in some sort of weird Cubs like impasse. They have far too much salary on the books and stuck in no-mans land. Chris Sale has 3 years left on his contract at $75mm HOWEVER he's also got deferred money in there. So it's really like 3 years/$50mm. Now his stats have generally gotten worse with age. He's clearly not the arm he was with the White Sox or early after the trade. That said, he's still a very respectable arm ... I think at $3/50 you can make a nice case. I'm sure at that price (assuming the deferred money stays with the BoSox & that he waves his no-trade clause) there will be a few teams interested. You also have a rested arm ... he's thrown a total of 838 pitches since 2019. 2019!! Nothing in 2020, and 47IP since. Food for thought.

they will fall, and they will fall pretty hard the day of the game. I don't have any tix for that series, but have 4th row behind visiting dugout ... i havent sniffed face value ONCE this year including weekend games. Generally you'll pay about $50 for a M/T/W/R game if you play your cards right. There's always the same culprits I am competing/torpeding prices against just so i'm not stuck with them. Section 121-126 usually has a few guys who drop price a lot. Houston may draw a somewhat bigger crowd ... that said it's close to back to school .. $50 before fees is a good guess.

if conforto was truly healthy he'd be signed right now. i have no doubt. the fact that he's not and it's august 6? You'd have to feel comfortable as a contending team that you sign him, he goes to the minors for a month, and then does a few weeks in regular season. You're not sticking him cold into a playoff lineup. The window is closing, and closing fast. if he's not signed in the next 10 days i think he's out for season

not to cherry pick, but Kopech was in the pen last year. he has had to become more of a pitcher due to pitching more innings this year. we were always going to hit a wall with kopech this year which is why we NEEDED a quintana type trade. it was less about the trade or who we got, more that we need someone who can throw innings and give kopech a phantom rest. I personally think you'll see a bit of this down the stretch with VV or Reynaldo - pair one of those guys as a piggyback on Kopech and limit him to 3ip. Either that, or we need a fake IL stint. He did 70ip last year, and 95 thus far. (this line of thought is if you believe in innings limitations -- i personally think he should be able to go 150ip this year no problem)