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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 10:23 AM) Other than the support of the entire baseball team? What does that even mean...the support of being a 4th place team the past 4 years? Oh you are right hell we could slide into 5th place. Seriously lol

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 08:13 AM) Maybe tomorrow you will walk in your office and they will tell you that it's been great but you have to go. The company hasn't done as well as hope YTD, and even though it really isn't on you, they have to send some sort of message. I'm sure you would understand, and would expect the company to start doing better as soon as you walk out the door. The funny thing is, the Sox still ARE doing better at this point than most predicted before the season started. If you really could pin walking guys and not getting guys on 3rd base with no outs on the manager, I would be all for canning him. But for all the people who blast old school ways and use of stats, firing the manager when the players suck is the oldest of old school. There isn't a manager in whatever field they are in on this board who thinks they should be fired if the people working under them can't do the job. Last year a lot of people picked us to win the division and we finished 4th. This year we appear headed to a similar result (without the expectations). Why keep ventura? What's to lose by trying someone else? For one it will allow us to see if the manager really is making any difference in this teams problems.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) Note that it was Kenny Williams, not Robin Ventura, that banned Drake LaRoche from the clubhouse. Also note that Kenny Williams and Chris Sale are both hotheads and have had an antagonistic relationship from day one. I'd love to see Maddon try to "control" Sale and Kenny. In addition to philosophically not agreeing that managers have much of an effect on team performance, I think that it would be disruptive to fire Ventura in the middle of the season. I would be much more comfortable with JR firing Ventura this winter. If it were up to me, I'd give this current cast of characters another year. If the Sox are still mired in mediocrity in July of 2017, I'd strongly consider holding a firesale, loading up on the best young ML-ready talent that I could, and firing Kenny Williams. That would address the real, systemic problems that have plagued this franchise. Disrupt what exactly?

No one thinks it's all on Ventura... but at this point something needs to change to light a fire under this team. This team just looks so tense and under pressure all the time.

Someone who actually wants to be a manager.

It's worth a shot.. but somehow I don't see it happening.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) Why do Sox have to be down 4 runs to score? mental.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 02:17 PM) A real baseball team would have never hired Ventura 5 years ago. A real baseball team would have never given him an extension. A real baseball team would make a change in the middle of another under performing season. A losing homestand should give Renteria the job. Period. Ventura didn't even want the job.....

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) Fathom get off that Ventura gate train. This stuff is on the players It's both... We've changed players... still losing.

Someone has to go on the coaching staff period. It's not just that they are about go to 6-18 since their good start. It's that they are playing important divisional games and just looked horrendous.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) 0-2 and walked him classic nibbling QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ Yep

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 01:33 PM) Verlander is going to pitch a CG. too many pitches

ahh lol how typical of this team...

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) White Sox Baseball for the last month. Now, the main question is how Q responds to the adversity. Has to be mentally draining not to be up at least 2-0 or 3-0 and have to pitch with more stress. The way the Tigers have been fouling off pitches, you'd almost think they had a spy signalling pitches to batters. when ever we have good scoring situations... our players look stressed and nervous. It's been this way for a long time.

We really have a lot of players who ooze confidence in those situations.

/vomit

Why is coats batting 2nd...

I have this sinking feeling were not scoring here...

saladino has some pop to him

Abreu homer listed at 436 ft.

just another head scratching daily occurrence on this team.

well... Abreu has not been himself at all. This is ONE of the reasons we are one of the worst teams in the majors as of late. However there are many other issues. Abreu didn't lose the KC series...

Hard for me to blame Ventura for despicable performance of this team lately... But over 4 years Ventura has proven that he can't be division opponents. No reason for him to be still leading this team... none.

this team just looks so bad right now.... From top to bottom really really bad.

It still pretty rare.... and every situation is different of course. But any problems I have with Ventura... this particular one isn't high on my list. I didn't really agree with it and it failed to work. But yeah not high on my list.