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Ehh... Benetti is fine - I don't have a problem with him. I miss Hawk sometimes though. It's weird though.... when the team wins how their announcer suddenly is better also.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) Exactly. A higher batting average later in the season will hide a prolonged slump better. It is easier to see a slump early in the season where you don't have the large body of work to hide it in. If you are batting .300 in 500 AB and go 4/40 your average drops only to .285. If you are hitting .300 in 20 AB an then go 4/40, it drops your average to .167, despite having the same slump. That's why batting average is irrelevant to level of slump. Sure, fine under 200 doesn't mean that much... I still bet Abreu in his entire baseball career as rarely been under 200... even early in the season. So yeah maybe it's not as large an issue as other things - but I don't think it's "meaningless" However that was what I found before I had a chance to keep researching... and when I did from what I saw and the ARTICLE ON CSN CHICAGO found. It was indeed his worse slump in MLB.... which was my point to begin with.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 06:41 AM) 2.34 ERA, 1st in AL, 0.49 better than 2nd 4 shutouts, 1st in AL, 2 more than 2nd 13 quality starts, 1st in AL, 2 more than 2nd .204 BAA, 1st in AL, .019 better than 2nd .267 Opp OBP, 2nd in AL, .026 better than 2nd .286 Opp SLG, 1st in AL, .051 better than 2nd .553 Opp OPS, 1st in AL, .084 better than 2nd 0.42 HR/9, 1st in AL, 0.19 better than 2nd 1.01 WHIP, 1st in AL, 0.17 better than 2nd 2.97 FIP, 1st in AL, 0.23 better than 2nd 3.4 WAR, 1st in AL, 0.9 better than 2nd crazy... Give Don Cooper some love

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) If this is his worse slump ever and the team is able to weather it with an 11-6 record, White Sox fans should be thrilled. Sure - but this thread was about his struggles. Yeah its nice that we are winning and he is struggling.

read the article and the rest of the stats.... the "under 200" thing is not the only thing there.... The simple question is "Is this his worse slump ever" If you look at the game logs it appears to be... There has never been a stretch where he had so few hits in so many at bats Not if he will suck forever or any other noise.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 11:55 PM) I don't think you actually understand statistics from reading this thread. That is the point. I don't think you understand statistics from reading this thread... I guess you don't think the writers in the article didn't understand statistics either... I gave you statistics and so did they. I guess it's a message board though so you can't admit that you were wrong - unwritten rule of message boards... I guess we have to agree to disagree.

4 shutouts this early... not done since 1947... I think they said.

Huh? lol How is it not immaterial that he has been under .200 for 4 straight days.. which also coincides from what appears to be the worse slump of his career (the worst I could find before was 8-39) But lets be honest it won't matter what evidence I give you. Here is a link for you also http://www.chatsports.com/chicago-white-so...-slump-12415245

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) What was his prior worst slump? Well for example... before this year he only had a batting avg under 200 for ONE day in his career in two years... headed for his 4th consecutive. He is 4 for his 40 I can't find anything even close to that level last year.. haven't looked at all the games the year before - EDIT: I found I believe to be his worse slump before this - rookie year 8-39 Again - not saying he won't be okay - but he has not struggled quite like this before.

You can look it up if you want... Abreu has never struggled like this. Not saying he won't come out of it... but people acting like "this has happened before" No it hasn't

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:34 PM) I do. He has had plenty of one week stretches where he looks clueless. The other day they were saying he has never batted below .200. So yeah I kind of know what you mean... BUT I have never seen him look THIS bad. Chances are he will be fine....

If Robin said that I like it... if Abreu wants to truly be great he has to learn how to get counts.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) We should blow it up. Season is lost. The white sox analyst were wondering what is wrong with Abreau... Garfien and co were talking about it after the game. It's way too early to panic but I don't ever recall him looking this bad.

He is really struggling at the moment with his discipline.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) So wait, if we don't score more runs, we won't win much? That is a limb to go out on. I'm saying I don't see a much different overall team than last year... better defense and pitching so far - but he same bad offense. The "obvious statement" I made above we were lamenting all year last year. It's still an issue.

If we don't start scoring (which we never really did last year) then we will keep falling towards 500 and eventually be under it.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) Problem is folks don't want to hear the truth or logic. If you use the arguments we are hearing about Danks then 3/4 of our line up should be gone already Uhh... while I could agree with Dick that Danks is likely to see more starts. Comparing Sale having a couple bad outings... to Danks having a couple bad outings is not the same thing (the rest of their body of work is vastly different) So yeah Michael Jordan has a couple of bad games... I'm likely to give him more leeway. Some other much less talented player, with much less history of production doesn't automatically get the same buffer for bad play. So yeah, while I agree with Dick in one sense... the example was flawed.

I wonder if he will be starting in Danks place.

What's amusing... and it can be found in many places in life -but message boards are great for seeing this in action. Optimism somehow equates to rational thought (this is why pyramid scams work- by catering to this false logic). Rational thought exists in pessimism and optimism - but most importantly in realism. Also this "mature" act of belittling those who question or complain is really often nothing more than a passive aggressive act of venting ones own frustration about losing.

Just remember though.. it's no ones fault. Just cosmic axioms.

Some more offensive fireworks so far tonight.

It's really simple... our offense was really bad last year and bad the years before. So far this year it looks like the same (thought it could change). if All of us like our record right now, but what is pretty funny is to think that logic or rational thinking equates that one should expect this record to continue with the same anemic offense of the past few years. That everything is great and the sky is the limit. Many of are basing our doubts on the struggles of the offense that past few years. We have good, logical reason to have concerns.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 17, 2016 -> 03:31 PM) I think being home for 7 nights in a row will help. Home cooking. A routine. Hopefully in a few weeks the good players will have respectable numbers and the Sox go 12-8, and be 20-12. eeh hopefully... last year we scored less runs and had less homeruns when we played at home.

Frazier looked really lost out there at the plate.. .however it's way too early to judge him much. However the lineup as a whole certainly is not lathering up anyone with confidence right now.

What I mean is... we saw this last year. We lost a ton of games giving up 3 or less runs. It's hard to just forget the last few years when you see offense like this the last 3 games... it makes it all come back.