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QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 08:05 AM) The bottom line is that the offense and defense is an abomination...the offensive futility is the story of the game(and the season) Not Robertson blowing a save or Ventura pulling Sale. sure that been the bottom line all season and I don't disagree. But the decision making and quality of play also falls on the coaching. Maybe it was just me - but I saw that lose coming 3 innings ago when I knew Sales pitch count was going to be borderline. I breathed a sigh of relief when I saw he could get one more inning. Then I see Robertson up there and I knew it was game over for the Sox.

As soon as I saw Robertson on the mound I knew what was going to happen. The absolute stupidity of this coaching staff is amazing. Roberston has been shaky for awhile now... 7 game losing streak - all the pressure. You let Sale go out there- if he gives up a base runner or two then you bring in Robertson - give him a chance to be a hero. All Robin did was give a scared pitcher a chance to be the goat. I had enough of Robin. I knew he was a fraud at the end of the 2012. At some point you need to win a F****** game and not worry about 10 GD pitches.

Wow .... I'm sure some people will bury their head in the sand. Robin needs to go NOW. I'm sure there will be some disagreement but I knew that game was over as soon as he pulled Sale. We all knew. 7 game losing streak only 1 run... just too much pressure on Robertson (who has been mentally shaky to beging with) Leave the pressure on the guy that can handle it. Robin has ZERO feel for this game ZERO. Wow what a total joke. Not to mention this despicable offense.

Yeah they can all go... Cooper is probably the one I like the best but I don't mind if they all go.

Was baffled by the move back then... Vast majority didn't like the move however 249-302 later... (beyond abysmal the past 3 years) just remember "manager doesn't mean much guys" The multitudes saw this coming.

Our defense is poor yes - and that is the most important aspect of baseball. But WOW this team from an offensive stand point is beyond putrid. No power, no patience, strike out happy.

Failure from top to bottom... To think I got fooled into thinking this year would be different than the last couple. Coaching staff and a few of the players need to be gone/reassigned. The holding hands/care bear way hasn't worked for the past 5 years.

QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 10:56 PM) Honestly who is to blame at this point? Everyone says baseball managers effect the result of a game the least in the major sports. Everyone was happy here with the moves Hahn had made the past few off seasons. So what the Hell is the problem? Is it the fact that we're getting bad luck because a few guys are having bad years to an already weak offense? Is it the poor defense? Base running? Where do you start fixing at this point? Upper management and coaching... The record over the past years has been bad or worse... players have changed but still same bad results. Can only pretend for so long.

damn comecast... games on all the time. I really need to stop watching. Back in the day once they were out of it I quit watching but last few years I keep watching. Please make it stop.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 09:51 PM) 1) White Sox are basically always on the wrong side of umpire's determinations/interpretations. 2) Danks battled. 3) The team didn't completely give up, so there's that. 4) Nobody can understand or figure out why they're doing so poorly in the 1st inning. Post-game summary from Ventura. Robin we're bad in the 1st Were also bad in the rest of the innings also.

Hitting coach, ventura, all of them need to be gone now. Then KW and Rick Yawn better hope that miraculously changes things. Otherwise there time is on the horizon.

It's time to shake things up NOW Otherwise this season is over.. it already is probably too late. What a joke of an organization that past 3-5 years. It started before ventura got here but the feces is really over flowing now.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 09:03 PM) What do you see when you see Danks? The guy f***ing competes. What do people expect from Danks? The guy gives his all and often has good results. He may very well give his all. However since his injury issues his results have been not so great.

connor bunting with that blazing speed.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 08:55 PM) He's awful, nothing more needs to be said Danks has rebounded nicely tonight... But yeah he is meatballs and noodles. 88 mph fast ball with a nice juicy changing up.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 08:29 PM) Ramirez looking for offspeed stuff away and aced twice tonight on the inside. Locke two K's away from his season/career high. How many times have we heard that this season so far? White Sox team average now at .237 or .238. I've never seen such a lost group of hitters. They look like minor leaguers.

Mark P to Alexei? Did you notice the other 6 strikes he called on the inside corner to you? Pro Tip: he is calling those strikes.

Ventura should have ejected himself for having melky bat 2nd right handed. I'll give Ventura this - he was right to be mad and get ejected. Loved Robin when he played with ozzie and Hurt But for the love of god please can him/KW and co go away. This isn't working.

Hawk makes me laugh... when would the "wrong" time have been this year to play us? Even when we won 6 in a row it wasn't like we were dropping 8-10 runs on people. We have been beatable all year... Only wrong time is when Sale pitches.. and even then our offense is such a joke that we can lose.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 07:25 PM) Got to laugh at Melky moving back up in the order vs LHP must be a "gut" call.

QUOTE (PorkChopExpress @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 07:19 PM) Are the Pirates stealing signs or something? They are jumping all over our pitching like they know what's coming. It's easy to see meatball floaters coming over the middle of the plate. No stealing signs necessary. John Danks 1. Not MLB stuff. 2. Not MLB control 3. do the math.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 06:04 PM) So according to your theory the Bulls players are just as happy as the Blackhawks??? After all it is just about the paycheck. Somehow I don't think so. Eaton wasn't happy in spite of his paycheck. Most players don't like losing for sure... But year after year in all sports the majority of players sign for the higher paycheck - because for their/family futures.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 04:56 PM) So you like being a loser!!!!! I am assuming you did not play any competitive sports. I doubt any players are happy playing on this team at this point. Nice Troll post... and way to leave out most of the context of what I said.

If I were a player I'd love to play for Ventura and Cooper. However when a team makes a bunch of constant mental errors and plays messy (in any sport) it reflects on the coach. Is it fair? In some cases maybe not - but in most cases it's fair. Some on this message board really seem to believe there is nothing wrong with our coaching staff. And you think the rest of us are being reactionary, unreasonable, ect. To think that the coaching staff is not to blame in anyway... To me that's any bit or more irrational of an attitude.

You win or you don't. When you are a coach and you lose... magnified x100 in professional sports. You lose your job. No one really cares about excuses (real or imagined). It's reality.