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combination of bad hitting and wasting outs.

there was that "good command of the strike zone" that abreu has... yeah never been true.

fucking infuriating.

yermin on his way back to reality.

didnt like that Gant has no control and then jose and yermin both swing at the first pitch...

its tough to say where Vaughn plays in the future,,,, I could see him and Eloy rotating between DH and LF

cards handed us that one- thanks we will take it

5280 games or whatever and you still fucking suck. one of the worse games I've seen an umpire have this year.

some of that is true for sure - but I really don't agree that Jose has a good handle on the strike zone. He has great plate coverage and is good at fouling off some tough pitches at time.... but he swings at lots of bad pitches. Jose is a smart hitter so he guesses right a lot - but he never has had a good eye.

If Abreu had Grandal's eye.. holy shit. He would be like Bonds in the steroid years.

167 BA but over 1000 ops... that's crazy

1. Hendricks: still a decent arm but sometimes a one pitch pitcher - so I'll go with average for him so far this year. 2. Bummer - hasn't been too great this year.. but been pretty good the past few - ill say he is a plus guy. 3. Foster = young guy who has a good year last yeah but no track record - ill go with ??? 4. Crotchett - had a cannon.. had surgery.. has looked good at times this year so far but still unproven ill go with ??? 5. Ruis - good fast ball but been a gas can most of his career - ill go with negative on him. 6. Marshall - up and down career has been a gas can more than he has been good - ill go with negative on him. 7. Kopech - been good this year.. but another unproven guy - ill say positive since he has been dominant most of the year. 8. Cody H - good arm- was good last year... but 6.50 era so far this year - another unproven guy.. ill go ??? with him We do have some talent.. but its mostly unproven and most teams have lots of guys that can throw hard.. I think we really overated our bullpen coming into the year - it was built upon a lot of young guys that have no track record really.

elaborate for me top to bottom if you compare our bullpen "talent" with a lot of good teams its not that superior.

is there really a ton of talent? Bummer has been solid the last few years... Cody was good last year but he is unproven... Liam is over the hill. The other guys are a mix of gas cans and unproven players. If you look at it as a whole - its not that good.

its not all on TLR - but his moves with the bullpen continue to fail. Nice hyperbole though.

looking at this bullpen in comparison to most teams ive seen -outside the twins ect. Id say we have one of the weakest bullpens in the american league.

All the right moves yet again today.

pen isnt good.. but tony fucks it up like usual as well.

pul pull pull.. go to fucking right field.

Larussa has no clue anymore - its so obvious

no one hitting this series really...

yeah i agree... but the orginal post I was responding to was "y'all just a bunch of babies - just wait until Engel is back" which basically is ironic and just proves that the outfield is bad.

Vaughn will be back in Triple A once Eloy, Robert are back. Vaughn has potential though.

Yeah engel is better.... But the fact the engel is better -shows up depleted our outfield is right now.

My point is obvious - if you are saying "just wait until Engel gets back" then the outfield must be pretty bad.