Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (shysocks @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) Assuming $18-$30 would be his market, yes, I think making a QO would be the right call. He may be a nice alternative for a team that misses out on Desmond. Would be crazy if we ended up getting 2 comp picks for next year.

Hypothetically speaking, if the Sox and Alexei discussed a deal to come back prior to declining the option but he wanted a 2 or 3 year deal worth around 18-30 mill (more guaranteed money than accepting a QO) would it be smart to offer him a QO knowing he's seeking a multi-year deal? I'm not advocating doing it but it's something that could be talked about or debated on here.

I was just thinking of scenarios where we could land Heyward and I think if we offered a long deal (something around 8-10 years) with player options every year after year 4/5, it'd be an interesting proposal for him. That way we have him for guaranteed 4-5 years and he can become a free agent to cash in again basically every year after that. If he has a bad year, he exercises his player option and if he has a bounceback year the following year, he can opt out. Players almost always decline their player option so when that happens, we could offer a QO and get a draft pick for him. Just trying to think outside the box.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) If we're relying on Freese to be a big upgrade, we're punting the season anyways. Hold onto your big three starters and give guys like Saladino, Sanchez, Micah, Avi, & Thompson a look on the position player side. Target 2017 to be the year we're serious about competing. Having said that, why can't we trade minor leaguers or sign better free agents than Freese to fill needs? Why does it have to Quintana or nothing? Because the guys people on here actually want to trade are guys who won't bring in anyone "significant." They can bring someone in but doubt it would make a difference.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 06:05 PM) I agree about Arenado, but completely disagree on Freese. We need significant upgrades at several positions if we want to compete next year and 3B is perhaps our biggest opportunity spot. Having said that, Freese is a moderate upgrade at best. Might as well give Saladino a look if the alternative is a 34 year old free agent with 2 WAR upside. Then I guess we're dealing Quintana otherwise we aren't getting a significant upgrade. My idea of having Freese keeps our pitching staff intact which it won't be if we upgrade significantly at multiple spots.

Ok guys we're not getting Arenado. I think we end up signing Freese who wouldn't be a bad pickup.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 05:01 PM) Or Garcia's depending on what happens. You want Trayce in the outfield where most of his value is derived. We'll obviously. I didn't mean for him to DH. Against lefties, Melky and Garcia would.

He'd be a good platoon mate with LaRoche but I think that's Thompson's job next season.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) I thought you can sign your own free agents now. This is what I think is right too. He's our free agent so we can sign him now. Teams get exclusive windows with their players. Teams can't sign other team's free agents yet.

Wow I just realized the banner changed haha

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) Anything less than $10 million for Alexei is a good deal for the Sox IMO. He gets a lot of crap from people on here, but he's still one of the better overall shortstops in the American League. Plus there really is no read yin-house option if we are trying to compete. With a rebuild approach, I really wouldn't mind Saladino there but they won't toss him out there with a young 3B and young 2B.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 12:08 PM) Who is going to play shortstop now? Could Alexei still return on a cheaper contract? Yes. I bet any money he is the shortstop next season. Anything less than 1 year 9 mill makes this worth it since we would save money. I'm going to guess 1/6 (7 mill including the buyout).

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 08:52 PM) So wanting to trade for Derek Norris is "chasing heroes". You're really stretching that definition to its limits. Yeah I don't get that either. I also don't get the comp to Phegley.

http://calltothepen.com/2015/11/01/baltimo...r-adam-laroche/ He definitely is a fit for a team that already has some pop in the lineup and a hole at first. His defense can definitely be more valued on a team like the Orioles than his bat.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 06:03 PM) The White Sox seem to be waiting until the last minute to announce what they are going to do with Alexei. Makes me think they either trying to get him to sign a lesser contract. It is at least worth a shot. Agree. Deadline is tomorrow night correct?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) The Cubs will likely get one of those pitchers (top five free agent pitchers). Less likely, they might trade one of their good young players (Javier Baez?) in a package for a top starting pitcher. It will be interesting to see if the Chicago White Sox even consider trading Chris Sale, or if the Oakland A's will listen to offers for Sonny Gray. Tim Kurkjian, espn.com I've said it many times on here before and I'll say it again, not until July 2017 at the earliest.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 06:59 PM) MLB absolutely starts slow. Wish it was like NFL and NHL, but winter meetings are tradition. Yeah on the bright side, the Winter Meetings are only about a month away! I have enough on my plate to keep me busy until then (and again, my finals are during them!).

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 05:51 PM) I love it and wish it could get started the day after the World Series. Hahn has so much work to do to right this disaster, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do. I really hope we look back on this offseason as the period of time Hahn began our turn around with shrewd FA pickups and trades Even if it could, no one would sign today. It's not like someone is going to sign as soon as they are eligible anyway. Baseball off-season seems like the slowest one to develop out of the major professional sports. I get your excitement in it starting though because this roster needs some work done.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) Indeed. With the 40 at 34 and some of the 34 being made up of Mike Olt, Rob Brantly, Davidson and Leury Garcia the team has a bunch of room where they can add. Carroll Beck and Turner are other expendable pieces.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 01:24 PM) Can't say I understand this move. I can't understand why people can't understand moves like this. Even our minor league teams needs bench players.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 07:22 AM) We still owe Alexei for overperforming his original deal (in the eyes of JR). No way he's gone. I don't think anyone is disagreeing. He will be here but his option won't get picked up (or shouldn't any way).

Good teams take advantage of mistakes. Whenever other teams make mistakes against the Sox, they usually s*** the bed.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 08:19 AM) Right, because he still was recovering from his broken leg three years prior. It's not stupid of GMs to think that his broken leg has ruined his career at that point To be fair again, going into free agency the year prior, he had a strong year. No one wanted to pay him to just DH and give up a draft pick. Not like he struggled, signed late and then struggled again.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 07:55 AM) I just browsed the last 6 years, Pierre/Dunn/Laroche/Kotsay/De Aza And we are making proclamations based on this bunch and their sample size In regards to the OP, I don't fault the Sox front office for not making a run at Morales. He certainly did not look like he had anything left after his short stints with the twins and Mariners. Good for the Royals for getting what they got out of him, but I didn't see many people wringing their hands from Laroche over Morales. To be fair, his season literally started after the draft. No Spring Training. Not even a minor league stint.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 31, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) Reed has done OK this postseason. The real winners of the Reed/Davidson trade: the Mets