Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) was really against this option for 2 reason. i am still questioning his ability to perform as he has in the past and his agent will want a 5 yr contract at least. Sox were in on a McCann a few years ago. Granted he has a better track record than Wieters, but I can see them being in on him too if there is no QO attached to his name.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 04:54 PM) Rodon and Trayce.....two reasons I'm tuning in. Cheers to that

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/09/heym...medium=facebook The fans were disappointed too besides the ones who actually believed in that pre-deadline winning streak.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 11:29 AM) I'd trade Beck or another fringy pitching prospect for him. They need pitching, the Sox need hitting. It would help both sides. Yeah these are the kinds of moves the Sox will probably aim to make this off-season. Not trading away our good players on the MLB roster, holding onto the few good prospects we have and not spending in free agency.

What about Christian Villanueva? He's a Cubs 3B prospect that no none talks about anymore but is having a solid season with 20 homers, ~.750 ops. Probably wouldn't cost anything relevant or maybe he is Rule 5 eligible this off-season and we can snag him that way (if he's not already on the 40-man roster).

QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 10:58 AM) You guys remember when Hector Santiago was an allstar this year and a bunch of people said that was an awful trade for Hahn. Lol @ those people. Let's just be happy we didn't get the worst part of the deal (Trumbo).

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 11:09 AM) I think LaDunn may be offensive to Dunn. At least he hit homers. He had an awful 1st year with Sox but he made an All Star team in his 2nd season. That is true. I've honestly thought a few times this season "I'd rather have Dunn at this point." He'd have at least 20 homers with a .220 avg.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 10:16 AM) Sale is a once in a generation type talent and I am proud that he is a member of the White Sox. Now please surround him with better talent so that he can be in the postseason in a White Sox uniform. Agree. We have him under control for four more years so it has to happen at some point in that time, right?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 10:17 AM) Not to mention Alexei and Melky at .282/.331/.444 and .297/.339/.479 respectively. In all likelihood all three of those guys will be on the team next year so they should all still see substantial playing time. I think Robin has done a pretty decent job getting all of the young players in the lineup. He's given a substantial number of at bats to Saladino, Olt, Johnson and Thompson over the last few weeks. Definitely easy to do when LaDunn isn't playing clogging up the DH spot.

Since it seems that right-handed hitters don't have extreme split stats against right-handed pitchers while left-handed hitters have extreme splits against lefties (so it seems), wouldn't it make more sense to try to load up on right-handed hitters than left-handed?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 08:50 AM) Yes. Braves are supposedly loading up on the 2016 class. Already have agreements in place for next year. Might as well go all-in next summer then if Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Dodgers can't spend

Aren't there a lot of teams that spent over the cap this year and last year to the point where there aren't many teams that can sign International youngsters for next period? If so, Sox should spend a LOT then. Although I wouldn't complain if they went out and got this kid and EJM now

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) They may complain....until they realize what our competitive lineup looks like. I seriously just lol'd at work. Well done

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) It would be good to be 1.5 games behind them by the time the series begins, so one loss will keep the Sox behind. A 4-game sweep from the Yankees is not out of the question. I think they lose at least 3 of 4.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 09:37 AM) I am coming out of the bushes to make this gamethread because I will be enjoying this fantastic pitching match-up from a luxury box at Yankee Stadium and I could not resist the opportunity to gloat about it. I would love nothing more than to bask in the anger of those around me as our Sox play spoiler behind our dominating, enviable ace. I shall endeavor to post lineups when said lineups become available to post. As usual, I forgot to put the date in the thread title. If a moderator would be so kind to rectify this, I would be grateful for minutes on end. If not, none of us will lose any sleep. Not so much lately

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 07:28 AM) 8th Pick Standings -- 8. Padres 71-81 --- 9. Tigers 71-81 --- 10. White Sox 72-80 1.0 11. Red Sox 72-79 1.5 12. D-Backs 73-79 2.0 13. Rays 74-78 3.0 14. Mariners 74-78 3.0 15. Indians 74-76 4.0 16. Orioles 75-76 4.5 *Tigers and Indians will only be playing 161 games. So there is no realistic option where we tie them (we would have the higher pick if we did). Let's finish a half game below them for a higher pick!

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 08:23 AM) well this season is coming to an end. the season hope in the beginning is a complete shock to how the team did and progress. this is a time to start looking at how to make this team competitive next yr. well i will bring up some points before many will change their mind in the off season and change their mind. now lets understand. the team needs players, pieces and prospects to help. i much as i hate to admit this, the sox will not sell their marque players, b/c they are still a business and need those players to put fans in the stand. players who many really like. so in short, eaton, sale jose a are not getting traded. so the priority of positions that needs immediate help and in the order that i am thinking. again this is my opinion. 3b. - no temp fix who can not hit or hit for some power. someone who is already a proven player. ------ need a trade or fa. ss. - can this team really hope for Alexei or a replacement who is no better in what the sox have trying to perform. (Saladino) cat - as much as i hate to not liking Flower, but it is position that need better hitting. how many seasons has he less than, i would be happy for a 250 avrg. dh. - i can not stand another season of adam l and hoping that he will be able to produce..... i keep and can't stand thinking of Paulie and his last 2yr of hitting now i can hope for more help but these positions is what i believe really needs to be address. i am not saying or condoning of spending all the money on a Heyward and leaving the team expose to these weak area. Only guy available that I'd really want is Freese. Free agent market is terrible this year (besides Upton, Heyward, Cespedes) besides pitching.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 09:10 PM) It's always smart to trade underrated players though. Gotta give talent to get talent. Team is littered with holes and you're blind if you don't think so.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove' 'Sep 23, 2015 -> 10:35 AM) A guy whose career high in OPS+ over a full season is 110. That's good for a catcher in this day and age, of course, but that will be five years ago. His defensive numbers have cratered as well. I don't know anything about his framing abilities off the top of my head, but signing him to something long-term feels like an albatross waiting to happen. Do you think it is possible that he takes a one year deal somewhere to rebuild value? Of course idk if anyone would go for that and give up a draftpick for him (assuming he gets a QO)

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 07:43 PM) No more "retooling" crap. Acquire as many prospects as possible via trades and draft picks. This team has wayyyy too many holes to fix this offseason. Can they actually think long term for once? As long as KW is in charge, expect another 'retooling' crapfest of an offseason. I have lost all faith in this team to make the right decisions under KW's "guidance". The right moves: Fire KW and Robin and undergo a three year rebuild plan under a new regime (New President and Manager) The most likely outcome after the season: Robin gets an extension. KW sticks around. Signs some overpaid veterans who will contribute very little in 2016. Get in line for season tickets, next year will be different under Robin and KW. Whats the old saying, 5th year together is a charm? I agree with this. Kenny and Robin will still be around. If this team doesn't want to spend money to improve (whether it be a guy like Heyward, Upton, Gordon, the starters etc.) and still decide they want to compete, they have to trade Quintana to do it. There is no way we can improve without doing it. I'm not saying I want him traded because I think he is bad, just that we need to give up value to get value. I'll take a shot at a plan: - Offer QO to Samardzija (he accepts) - Decline Alexei option or play Saladino cheap for a year at SS or when Anderson is ready (re-sign to one year deal plus option; if next season is like this one, he could be a trade candidate with about 1.5 years of control if he is doing good. Also a solid stop gap or Anderson). - non-tender a contract to Flowers - Re-sign Alberts - Let Beckham go - Trade Quintana (possibly along with Avi and/or Sanchez or Micah depending on who the organization sees as the long-term answer) to bring in either a couple young MLB hitters at position of need or a package of 3-4 top prospects that could all possibly be blocked). - Insert Johnson into the rotation to replace Samardzija - Sign Avila or Iannetta ( Avila: left-handed bat, see if he can bounce back and possibly flip in July. Iannetta: right handed but see if he can bounce back and possibly flip) - Trade LaRoche to the Marlins for Martin Prado (Marlins wanted him last off-season. Could be interested as a one year stop gap. Yankees are also paying some of Prado's contract, but the Sox could also kick in some cash to off-set the difference. One year left on contract, see if we can flip him in July if we're out of it.) - If they do nothing at 3B, it is basically a battle between Saladino (if Alexei is brought back), Olt, Davidson, and minor league signing. Possible Rotation: 1. Sale 2. Rodon 3. Johnson/Fulmer 4. Danks/Fulmer (if Johnson or Danks are doing terrible, Fulmer comes up if/when he is ready) 5. Kennedy assuming he doesn't get a QO/Norris/possible MLB ready guy in a deal for Q/Fulmer if they bring him north after spring training. (was going to throw Leake in here, but he will be 28 as a free agent with no QO. Lineup: 1. Eaton CF 2. Prado 3B (an MLB ready or already productive 3B from Quintana trade that may hit lower with Alexei or Cabrera in 2 spot) 3. Abreu 1B/DH 4. Cabrera LF/DH 5. Garcia DH 6. Thompson RF (Thompson as backup CF as well. depends on if they trade one I suppose) 7. hopefully an MLB ready or already productive 3B from Quintana trade or Ramirez at SS 8. Iannetta or Avila C 9. Sanchez/Johnson (basically whoever isn't dealt in my scenario above) Bench: Soto re-signed (possible flip in July) Garcia IF Shuck OF minor league battle guy in spring training or Saladino if there is a new 3B and Alexei brought back. Or with Prado's (and even L. Garcia's) versatility, you have an extra reliever. Possible players to sell in July: Ramirez Avila/Iannetta Prado Soto Cabrera (might have to eat some cash here) Robertson A 5th starter signee possibly doing good other relievers This is more of a rebuilding patchwork team though. Personally, I'd rather they took an approach like this. Sure it may suck next year, but we may be able to flip a few guys at the deadline and wait for some money to be off the books to try again in the 2016 off-season. PS: I know many will not agree with this, but I think it needs to be done.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) Zach Duke...yet another off season mistake. And they've got him for two more years...he'll be 35 then. Sox have now scored three runs or less in six of their last seven games... And now have crossed the 50% threshold for the year. 151 games played, 76 times three runs of less...50.3% That's pretty bad. Once again feel lousy for Q. Wouldn't blame him if he told his agent to get him the hell out of town this winter. And this is interesting: Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 2m2 minutes ago In Jose Quintana's 117 career starts, the White Sox have scored 0 runs 17 times, one run 27 times and two runs 27 times. That's a total of 71 times three runs or less for Q. Almost 61% of his starts. Mark That should say two or less runs. Which actually makes it worse.

Samardzija switched agencies today. No way he accepts the QO.

I'd love if the Sox could get Plouffe unfortunately it isn't going to happen.

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 04:00 PM) if you want to see something horrific, check out their Game 2 lineup. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPdIoAhVEAAtIFf.jpg:large I was going to post in the other game thread that I bet the second game lineup will be completely different. I even predicted all the guys in the lineup just not the right order

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 10:20 PM) I think this should be the new Soxtalk banner. I'll be honest, Robertson shouldn't be up there anymore either. Sale, Eaton, Abreu?