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Worst thread ever. OP is normally a good contributor to this forum, but this fud here is a joke. Even if Moncada maxes out at .250 this year, I am not going to start being worried about his development until we get at least 2 full years in and he's not hitting better than Gordon Beckham did.

An article on the Athletic discussed this in a bit more depth, and evidently none of the Sox were bothered by it at all. They all took at as good natured ribbing. Donaldsons body language didn't suggest it was in good-nature, but either way I'm happy to hear the Sox aren't phased by his antics.

These are tough questions because we're starting to get into territory where we may need some of our productive players for the next competitive Sox team. It goes without saying though, that anyone in the bullpen is open for trade. Soria and Jones can go ahead and have great years so that we can extract value from them in trade. Miguel Gonzalez, should he be worth anything at all, should definitely be traded. With the position players it starts getting really tricky. With Jimenez waiting in the wings, Avi may be one of the easier players to let go. Truth be told, if he continues to succeed, I will have a hard time letting Avi go and I really hope if he is traded, we get 1 or 2 really nice prospects back for him. Even though he came from Detroit, he has one of those "homegrown" kind of feelings about him for me. Without trying to get too ahead of myself here, we've gone through all the trials and tribulations with Avi and seemingly came out on the other end with a pretty darn good baseball player. Even when Eloy comes up, I'm not telling teams that I'm taking best offers available for Avi. If no one is offering anything worthwhile, he's simply not going to get traded and we will move forward with him and figure out some OF platoon system or something. We can get both him and Eloy at bats. Davidson is kind of in a similar position, for me, but he's one year behind Avi in terms in proving himself. If Matty D has a really nice year, it will mean he cut down on his strikeouts and hit 35 bombs. You can't trade a guy like that. He's a guy who could accelerate the rebuild. Having a guy like him who is not expected to be a part of the rebuild become a part of the rebuild is huge if the Sox want to be the best. To trade Abreu would quite literally require a Kings Ransom. His combo of elite power and average hitting skills, along with his leadership skills make him the most important player on the Sox. Trading him would be a tough pill to swallow, and would hopefully come after he's been able to impart leadership skills on some other players. I don't think there's any situation where Welington would get traded. He was brought in for a reason, and trading him may be more detrimental to the young staff than helpful in terms of prospects received. I could actually see the Sox exploring an extension with him if Collins or Seby aren't blowing doors down next year. He's developed into a pretty darn good backstop over the years.

QUOTE (Quin @ Mar 28, 2018 -> 01:21 PM) How to build a bullpen using money you can't spend anyway: an op-ed by Rick Hahn. Seriously. People will never shut up about him being a trailblazer or a genius if we built a serviceable or good bullpen using International Draft Money we weren't planning on using anyway. We have been getting some very interesting guys with this money.

I'd argue that as long as a team is showing up to games every day, they're going to try to win. Just because upper management isn't making foolhardy free agent investments or stupid trades (like the Shields one) to "fortify" the MLB team doesn't mean they are tanking the season. We are already pushing several of our top prospects to the MLB level, with perhaps more joining this season. It is expected of them that they will contribute to MLB wins. Welcome to the modern age of baseball. High end young talent wins in this day and age and if that's not the goal for every team, they're doing it wrong. No one is going to hand a team a bevy of young uber talented prospects, there is a price that must be paid for it and that price is having a team that probably won't be as competitive for a spell.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 11:47 PM) yea, but he can't hit. It would be really awesome if he was able to turn the corner with the bat.. in any way at all given how terrible he was with it. I look forward to seeing if he can accomplish this this year.

This thread did not need to be reopened because theres seriously been only a few interesting posts in the last couple of pages. Everyone else hijacked this thread with their spam. Message board etiquette 101: Don't spam threads. As I break the etiquette myself...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2018 -> 08:53 PM) "You know the greatest thing about the National Hockey League? The last 2 minutes take 2 minutes". -Al Michaels FTW. That's an epic quote, especially if it was really on an NFL broadcast like I think it was. (I wasn't watching)

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 24, 2017 -> 10:46 PM) Wouldn't be worth it. You are decimating potential for the team for a single player. Although that's probably what it would take to get him. Yeah, I'd honestly not be interested in that deal at all, but I think the Angels might take it somewhat seriously. It's a better package than the Sale package by far.

Jimenez Kopech Collins Hansen

Oh well, now we just hope the Sox throw the most money at him next year and that he's a money talks kind of guy and not another "Gotta play for the Yankees" kind of superstar.

A couple of friends were telling me that Machado came out and said he wont be signing any mid season extensions if hes traded. I cant find any info on this. Has anyone else seen that?

So the offer isnt that strong, but still the best? I'll take that.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 12:59 AM) Carson Fulmer was dealing like an all-star as well. Lots of pitchers flame out after hot starts. Not saying this is a certainty with Gio, but he hasn't produced for a few years yet. If Hahn thinks he can convince Machado to sign, or flip him at the deadline I'll trust his judgement. Top 10 players and potential Hall of Famer's are much more GOLD than guys who look good for seven starts. I'm buying what you're selling. I'd like to see Machado hit for higher average, but its hard to argue with his defense, power, and still respectable averages and RBI numbers. Also, his WAR was awesome in 15 and 16. I'm also a huge proponent of having as many solid pitching prospects as possible to maximize your the potential that you have a rock solid rotation... but this certainly is enticing if its Giolito or Rodon's names being bandied about. Kopech... no thanks. You also have to kind of hope that 2017 was a fluke, learning experience kind of a year for a young stud like Machado.

What the heck, are these GMs gonna be up all night trying to hammer out a deal or are they gonna go to bed? Info keeps trickling out...

Bob Nightengale‏Verified account @BNightengale Follow Follow @BNightengale More The #STLCards have strong offer as well for #Orioles Manny Machado, but not quite as strong as #Whitesox proposal

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 12:44 AM) Nathan Bernhardt‏Verified account @jonbernhardt again, if the White Sox are in on Machado it's because they perceive that whatever they'd be giving up wouldn't threaten their rebuild. It means something like a Carlos Rodon/Avisail Garcia package https://twitter.com/jonbernhardt/status/941185191451774976 Thats not a terrible package because Rodon still has plenty of potential and control, and they can gamble on Avi to continue his success and perhaps then flip him for another prospect package down the road. Could also be the strongest offer out there, I suppose. Who is this guy and how are his credentials?

Like everyone... really only okay with this if it's NOT Kopech... but if we have the best offer on the table that could mean that it is Kopech. I'd be shocked if the best offer the O's had was a Giolito headlined package, as nice of a pitching prospect as he is. Would love to be proven wrong here. Maybe they're enamored with the success he had last season in the MLB... here's hoping.

Lopez and Giolito is their ask, eh? It would be interesting to be able to say that we turned Eaton into Machado, and Dunning. Given his contract, I don't think they will be able to get a deal done for that ask. The Sox especially will need to keep every SP prospect they have to maximize their chances of having a winning rotation when the window is open.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 24, 2017 -> 11:49 AM) New Mario is $47 if youre a prime member. Had to login to drop a big thank you to you for mentioning this. Additionally, I'm glad I even checked this thread in the first place. Those games dont usually ever drop much in value so $47 is a killer deal with free next day shipping. I picked up a copy for myself and a buddy at 1 AM last night, logged in this morning to see that the deal is gone now. Thank you Soxbadger.

Helps make the Sox look a little smarter in dealing him, as bittersweet as it is to say. I'd be very disappointed in a performance like that from Sale had our Sox actually made the postseason with him.

I wish Abreu would start coveting 120 RBI seasons.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 10:14 PM) yaay lets win more meaningless games.. But Lopez pitched well. These games are like double edged swords if you're rooting for losses. Yes, the offense kicked ass today. Even a bad Lopez probably would have resulted in a Sox win. So the Sox won. But it is not meaningless... we really need Lopez to be an awesome pitcher for our future Sox team and outings like this are only good in that respect. If the Sox win, I hope it's only because players projected to be on the next competitive Sox team did well. That's all I can ask for. The Sox have solidified a top pick in the draft. They won't get #1 anyway because Philly just plain blows and it seems like they have no future at all. I'll gladly take the worst record in the AL, although it does seem like the Tigers are pulling off a nice tankjob to finish their season...

I'm glad Lucas recognizes that those were good pitches, despite the umpires blindness. A frail minded pitcher could let that into his head, but he knew he had done as well as he could in those situations. It's disappointing he got ejected, but it was also smart of him to save his mind for after he was being taken out of the game. I'm proud of him. This, in my opinion, shows great mental strength and can only bode well for him.