Southwest Sider

It's a lot of work to touch base with all the other teams to get ideas about who could be available via trade and a rough estimate of what it might take to acquire said players. They probably have targets, but if none of them are available or are too expensive, then it probably is a better idea to sell off some of your assets, provided you get the return you want. Or just do nothing. I don't think many people would be happy about nothing...

I'd like to see the forums stay the same, but allow leniency in regards to subjects. IE: Team A is considering trading player B, should White Sox pursue player B? Perhaps include the entire MLB forum as a subforum of Pale Hose as well, similar to trade winds. The best thing that has happened to this forum was to get rid of most catch - all threads. To put it simply, I am much happier looking over a few threads of minor significance to me to find something that I'm interested in discussing, then to wade through countless posts in a catch-all to find something that I'm interested in discussing. The worst is when you're reading old catch-alls and miss an entire conversation that you would have jumped in on. I'd even take it a step further and get rid of catch-alls for NHL/Blackhawks, NBA/Bulls and NFL/Bears. It's kind of annoying to read somebody talking about the Packers when I want to read about the Bears. The entire Patrick Kane legal case could have been a separate thread entirely instead of inside a catch-all where poster A says "Hawks win!", poster B says "The Central is stacked", and poster C says "Kane must be innocent." Those could all be their own threads. Also, I noticed a long, long time ago that there were even game threads for each separate Hawks, Bulls and Bears game. Why did that stop?

Wow. I'm still going to opt to sport my Toews Winter Classic sweater from last season most often, but now I don't feel so silly owning a Kane home sweater.

If anyone is still worrying about the Central division, just know that there have not been a lot of central vs central match ups yet. Central teams other then Colorado have dominated the east, and yes, that means the central is a good division. But things will even out after more central vs central games occur. Chicago and Colorado have only played 2 central games, Dallas has only played 1, Nashville zero. It will be interesting to see how things shake out.

From what I've seen from Teuvo lately, I wasn't impressed. Not that Bickell is a better bet, but Kero has had some decent shifts out there today.

I think I agree with the sentiment of a few on here. For the Sox to acquire promising young players, they would have to deal from their position of strength. It is widely accepted that SP is that position. However, just because it is our position where we have the most strength, doesn't really mean that it's a general position of strength. Who is ready to fill Quintanas shoes if we trade him for position players? If you sign Buehrle, you cannot expect him to give you anything better then what a #4 starter would. But with the depth we wouldn't have by trading Quintana, he would become our #3, with Rodon at 2, Danks 4 and Johnson 5. Are we ready to put that kind of pressure on Rodon? Further, what kind of depth do we really have at SP in the minors? Fulmer belongs in AA, there's a chance he could get promoted midseason if he dominates. Danish is probably slated to go to AA again, and probably have a better year. Montas seems like he's going to end up a reliever. Spencer Adams is probably going to AA, as well. There's a good chance we could have a hell of a AA staff next year, but they are not knocking on the door yet. I am not comfortable, at all, going after organizational depth pitchers, or guys who had a bad year or two, or guys coming off of injury and expecting them to slide into the rotation. If they do, that's great, that's gravy, but you cannot have any of them penciled into a 1-5 spot going into the spring. They need to earn it. Lastly, similar to Sale, I am not trading Quintana unless it is for a package of players that I want. We're talking at least a slight overpayment. Just like Sale, I do not see the White Sox getting offered a package that they want. They won't trade him just for the sake of trading him. Teams that really want a starter can turn to free agency first, and there are at least 4 desirable names out there. Knowing that you can't just trade Quintana and not have a capable replacement ready, I think the Sox best move this offseason, if they truly want to force a couple teams into a bidding war for Quintana, would be to sign Zimmerman or Cueto after the Price decides to sign with the Cubs and Greinke decides to stay in LA. You're hoping the bidding for Zimmerman or Cueto doesn't exceed Jon Lesters 6 year 155million contract, which I think the Sox would consider, but anything beyond that and the Sox are out and they keep Quintana. Ultimately, there will probably be just too many suitors, and the bidding will get beyond what the Sox are comfortable with. There's also the possibility of a lateral move, maybe a team like the Mets wants to trade a right hander for a left hander to have some rotation balance. If that is a possibility, I think that would also be a great move. I think the most likely scenario is that the Sox kind of stand pat with their rotation. Maybe they swap Danks contract for another and sign Buehrle.

You have got to be kidding me.... ... .......................... ...............................

Not sure if these are big enough, but here is a picture of them side by side to their regular sized hot dogs. Pure beef with none of the BS, as well.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 14, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) Man, and Ventura gets a free pass. This FO truly is retarded. I might suggest you re-read the quote. Hahn flat out says that Parent was responsible for any clubhouse issues. Ventura had no involvement in this and for me, it kind of confirms what Lip Man's source was telling him.

Rick also put to rest any speculation that the Sox wouldn't offer Samardizja a qualifying offer. Basically he said that "should things work out that Jeff ends up in another uniform next season, we'll at the very least end up with a draft pick..."

Rick Hahn quote from WLS White Sox Weekly podcast: "Parents a good baseball man and its unfortunate that we did feel we had to make a change in large part because of the performance and some of the elements inside the clubhouse.. which ultimately he bore responsibility for."

Rick talking about Parent being let go: "Parents a good baseball man and its unfortunate that we did feel we had to make a change in large part because of the performance and some of the elements inside the clubhouse.. which ultimately he bore responsibility for."

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) Saw Bernstein on Twitter speculating Arrieta's arm is bugging him due to an excessive amount of stretching by him between pitches Haha no. He's just human and can't be perfect forever.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:54 PM) The 1 game format is exciting for fans of the other 28 teams, horrible for the 2 fanbases and teams involved. Pirates won 98 games and get kicked out in just 1 game. I agree that the Pirates (or Cubs if they had lost) deserve a better fate then a 1 game play off. Teams that win more games then they lose deserve a shot in the postseason (not just this 1 game "postseason"), and someone needs to pucker up and tell owners to F off and switch to a more shortened season in favor of a longer postseason.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:59 AM) Are the 5 months (6 if you're the Sox) he has off a year not enough to be around his grandkids? No, that's actually not nearly enough time to convey the entire aspect of his Boston Red Sox days to his grandkids.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) If it were me, I would do home games, and hire a driver. Of course, Granger wouldn't be where I lived, but if I had to.......... Now that you mention it, in Hawks shoes I would miss my home ballpark a TON. The fans cheering with you for the Sox. I'd be willing to wager that if the Sox are competitive next year, and the ballpark is rocking, he might do a few more home games later in the season.

I would sometimes wonder how long Hawk can keep up the drive he has to the ballpark. He's getting pretty old, and not living close by makes for a heck of a commute. Staying at hotels and riding buses to ballparks is a different story, and so I can understand doing road games. He probably still loves being on the road, too. Good for Hawk.

If I'm the Sox, I make it clear to Avi that he is in open competition with Trayce for an OF spot next spring. Nothing is guaranteed. He needs to come to ST with a whole new idea on hitting, and apply it. He has a lot of work to do this offseason. It also wouldn't hurt if he put in a lot of work on his defense, too. At least improve that to some degree, as well. But as ardent a supporter as I have been for Avi, I fear he has hit his ceiling. It's not the ceiling we thought he could hit, and he is still very young.. but if he has a lousy spring I don't see how you can bring him to Chicago if you are looking to contend, unless Trayce has a terrible Spring or they bring in some new guys. I'm displeased Avi hasn't amounted to more, but overall I'm happy we were able to get a chance at a stud and a seemingly important future bullpen piece for Jake Peavy. Still a good deal for us, just hasn't worked out as we had all hoped.

Pat Tomasulo of WGN reposted this on Facebook saying "Don't ever change, White Sox fans." It's going viral. Congrats on your 15 minutes.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 12:40 AM) I Know I should be cheering for us to lose right now for draft position, but f*** the Royals, I'll always root for beating them. Getting a high draft pick this year is all well and good, but I also want this team to get some mojo against the Royals and hopefully carry it into next year.

IMO Cooper is wearing out his welcome here too. He couldn't find a middle ground to work with Samardzija on? Their relationship should never have been this bad, and as his boss, that falls on Cooper as much as it does Samardzija. Give Cooper a QO too, if you ask me... hehe

If its true that KW and the sox would part ways this offseason, id be really excited about promoting hahn to KWs position and bringing in cherington as the GM. They both seem to have a similar philsophy in regards to building the farm. I feel that cheringtons philosophy maybe clashed with the upper management of boston. Perhaps his bosses were the people who needed to sign panda and hanley. Nonetheless, i would be extremely disappointed if the sox missed out on a guy like this because they wanted to wait til the offseason. Like it or not executive moves are happening now, dont be stubborn about waiting til fhe offseason please. The fact that DD already has a new job should give the sox the urgency they need to bring in a guy like cherington NOW before someone else gets him.

Thank god for tailgating.... friends.... beautiful days.... and Chris Sale.... to make up for the fact that my team sucks and will probably lose. But it would be a plus if they did win and we had something to cheer for....

Meeting up with some family at the game today. I am planning on arriving early to park, but the directions are unclear on whether the lettered lots will be accepting cash. Does anyone have advice as to whether or not I should even bother trying to park in a lettered lot?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 07:30 AM) I get that he is trying to say it's unethical or immoral, but why is two consenting adults (if that indeed is the case) having sex an issue whatsoever? The point is that as a rich, high profile individual you become a target for someone to try and take advantage of when you agree to sex with a stranger. They know who you are, but you dont know them. As someone earlier said, as a person like Kane, you need to vet anyone who wants to become close with you be they friend or potential sex partner. We dont yet know what happened, but either way hes going to come out of this looking stupid. If he raped and its proven, felony. If he didnt, he looks dumb for getting mixed up with a scam artist. If he comes out of this he better quit drinking. I think the blackhawks would be within their right to request he attend AA and quit drinking. Its obvious that he, like all of us, become incredibly stupid when drunk.