Tony

I think there is a component of people not be ready for the next phase of White Sox baseball. It was a rude awakening for people. You spend years talking about "the core" and the future, what potential lineups will look like, etc......Nicky was in all of them. Obviously not on the same impact level of guys like Eloy, Moncada, Robert, Gio, etc.....but a guy that was in everyone's lineup. There is some shock to the system when you remove that. It wasn't part of the plan. But we're here now. They built a team that is running away with the division and considered one of the World Series favorites. These are the type of moves teams in those positions make. It's go time. And in my opinion, and the opinion of Hahn and Kenny.....Craig Kimbrell helps the Sox get closer to another World Series more than Nicky does.

Of course he doesn't. Comparing Torres and Madrigal, especially the Torres of 2015 is like comparing apples to bowling balls. I see very scenarios where trading Nick Madrigal comes back to "haunt" the Sox...

It also needs to be said that Rick and the FO deserve a lot of credit for not putting their feet up after the first deal with the Cubs. The odds of the White Sox and Cubs doing two separate deals for bullpen help at the deadline seems astronomically low, not to mention the Sox clearly having to beat out multiple teams for the services of Kimbrell. They saw what others teams were doing and kept pace....and deserve credit for that.

Truthfully not sure how I personally feel being on the exact same page with KW and Rick.......but I'll take it.

Gotcha, thanks!

Tweeted what?

I’m confused though. Is it also a club option if he doesn’t meet those numbers? sportac lists it as this: 2022 Vesting/Club option includes a $1M buyout

I want to win, Goober.

Seriously, how stupid was that? I mentioned it earlier in this thread. I can’t believe they published that.

Now we’re starting to ask the questions that matter….hahah

Invest heavily only comes down to money, and over the last 2 years, my worries and frustrations about the Sox not spending aren’t really there anymore.

Who decided you need an oft-injured slapdick 2B during your World Series window?

I know the Sox have never been huge spenders….but I just can’t imagine they make a move like this that will prevent them from doing something big in the future. On top of it, if it’s that big of a deal, don’t pick up the option. Or trade him!

For real? You’re going to b**** and moan about using past history as our best indicator but are fine giving Rodon a shit ton of money???

Bingo

NONE of this matters. Who cares about 4 months ago? Do you know how much changes in 4 months? They made a move to acquire a player that they desperately needed, and he was the best one out there. And they used assets that weren’t serving a purpose for the 2021 team.

If they signed Donovan Solano for 2 years, you’re basically getting Nicky..

I really do think the window has always been 3-4 years. This is Year 1. It’s go time. They don’t win the World Series this year, you only have 2-3 more shots at it.

Then you’re welcome, Soxtalk

I’m interested to know what changed over the last 24 hours when the Sox were taking to the Cubs about Tepera. Was this not discussed? Did the Sox see everyone else making moves and get more aggressive?

If the Sox win, I hope Nicky hits .400 every year.

I think it comes down to this: 1. If the Sox win a World Series with Kimbrel, it's a great move. 2. If the Sox want to be big boys, they can sign Marcus Semien or any other handful of guys that will be out there and replace Nicky without blinking an eye. It only hurts if they don't replace him with talent. I love, love LOVE the White Sox going for it.

Wow, didn’t see this coming in terms of assets moved. And I don’t know what to think lol

This is 98% a great post and spot on. The only issue is not with the specific players, but general philosophy about what is actually going on today. Rays-Blue Jays-Yankees-Dodgers-Padres are all making big moves to try and bolster their rosters to give them the best chance to win the World Series. The Sox acquired a utility man and bullpen arm that might throw 25 innings for them. If wanting them to be more aggressive is wrong.... then so are the Ryas-Blue Jays-Yankees-Dodgers-Padres.

As others have said, if they don't make another move....they are playing to win the division and that's it. Can they win the World Series? Absoltuely. But they aren't treating the deadline like that, at all.