Tony

I feel like you have to be either in or out at this point as a front office. Rick told us the window is now open on his last Zoom, and none of us even needed to be told that, we could see it with our own eyes. It's go time. Yes, the White Sox operate on a budget most of us don't always agree with. Yes, in 2024 a bunch of the Sox core will be expensive and should be right in the peak of their primes. Yes, Liam Hendricks will be 35 at that point and not a good bet to still be throwing at a high level. But the time to win is now. Right now, this season. And next season. And the season after that. I'm not going to say "Ah screw 4 years from now, you'll figure it out!" because that's not realistic and not how a business should be run. But we're talking about 12-14 million in 2024. If you're all in with this team, you really believe in this core and are confident with what you built...don't let the fear of an extra 14 million in 2024 slow this train down. I know there is a lot of uncertainly with COVID and fans in the future.....but if this all works the team is going to be surrounded by a tremendous amount of interest and added revenue that should more than cover Liam Hendricks in 2024.

The difference is bmags can articulate his position in a way where when people are finished reading it, no one thinks “God what a colossal prick this guy is.”

It's been a slow burn for Disney + no doubt but they've really seemed to focus on their infrastructure and planning the last year, and officially announced a ton of that planning today. 10+ Marvel Series, 10 Star Wars series plus a host of Disney and Disney animation content was announced today and is coming over the next "few" years as they put it. By the end of 2021, they are going to be a force, no pun intended.

It absolutely was not the point of the rebuild, and if you think that....you've been wrong this entire time and that's on you...not this front office.

Sox fans will NEVER change. 1. For all the reasons talked about ad nauseam already, the Sox were not going to be players for Springer or Bauer. Would it have been great? Sure, but so would have Harper, Cole, Machado, the list goes on. It's not how the Sox do business, never have. Deal with it or move on. 2. More importantly......The Sox don't need to make a splash. We've become so used to winning the offseason and being trash by July. The foundation is finally in place. The Sox are going to win the World Series with Giolito-Robert-Moncada-Eloy-Grandal-Timmy leading the way. This is the core. Right now they need to add depth to bring this thing to the finish line. Using a guy like Dane Dunning is how you do that.

By many people's standards, the Cubs 2015-2020 run was incredibly successful. Go look around the rest of the league and season by season results. The Cubs making the Championship series 3 years in a row, with a WS Championship right in the middle of it isn't something that is very common. Yes, they should have won another one. Yes the window closed sooner than anyone on the North Side would have liked. Theo and Co. made some really bad moves. But when Rick made the trades of Sale/Eaton/Q, if you would have told me "What the Cubs did in 2015-2016-2017-2018 is EXACTLY what is going to happen to the White Sox, and their window will close after Year 6." I take that every time........

The article is about the Phillies and the failed rebuild. The No. 1 reason Sam Miller gives in this article is "The Prospects they developed didn't develop all the way." Your point was, and has been for quite some time "The Sox shouldn't spend big on a free agent because it could really hurt the team, we have a great core already!" Specifically, you used the line "Guys like Bauer and Springer would be great if we can afford them...but if they fail...we are the Phillies." That's not what happened with the Phillies at all. In fact, as Sam Miller notes, their FA additions have worked out quite well all things considered. If you don't want the Sox to spend big in free agency, that's fine. But you're somehow using this article to try and back up the point you've been trying to make in other threads, and if anything this article speaks to the opposite. Signing big name free agents didn't take down the Phillies rebuild. And even if those FA's would have failed for the Phillies, it still wouldn't have been the thinking taking down the Phillies rebuild. It was the lack of their core developing the way they believed it would. That's the not the case on the South Side thus far.

Did you even read the article?

They were supposed to be “volunteers.” The story goes the clones became very expensive to make and additionally Palpatine thought the clones could be too easy manipulated to they switched to a non-clone army. This is mostly expanded universe stuff anyway. Captain Rex sort of talks about it in Rebels that the Empire has retired the original clone army also due to age. But everyone seems to agree “stormtroopers” in the OT were not clones.

There is nothing I hate more than a “well actually guy” especially when it comes to something like Star Wars, but the clones were phased out of being troopers around the time of A New Hope, so Boba would have been aware that the Stormtroopers were no longer his clones well before this Mando event, seeing as it’s about 5 years after Return of the Jedi, and Boba has clearly worked for the Empire quite a few times.

I honestly couldn't believe I was actually watching what I was watching, and I mean that in the most positive way possible. Seeing "his" ship back on screen after all these years, one of the coolest ships in the entire SW Universe was crazy.....along with many other instances of the episode. It's such a fun weekly show to consume.

After reading some of the comments here, it's perplexing to me how there are users on this site that somehow figured out how to turn on their computer, find this site and able to create a log in and password. If you don't like Len Kasper's voice or delivery as a broadcaster, that's one thing. Everyone has different tastes. But the lack of critical thinking skills shown by what I assume are fully-functioning adults is crazy. Why do you think there is so much outrage from Cubs fans? The guy was the voice of the team for 15 years and fans fell in love with his calls, his style, his "homerism" for the North Side. Guess what.........he'll now be doing that for the team you all love. Are you really that immature and naive to not be able to see that? When Eloy cranks out a bomb at Wrigley and you're driving in your car listening to Len go nuts, you're still going to find him insufferable? Again, the amount of petulance shown here because he called games for a franchise you hate is just laughable.

It’s a fantastic hire by both 1000 and the White Sox. He’s a great broadcaster and to your point, Farmer and DJ were just not an enjoyable listen. The Sox have put together a very, VERY strong broadcasting lineup.

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Once again, there is no proof that is true, and additionally....Trevor Bauer and George Springer are not the only two guys on the market that would be significant positive additions to this team.

None of us have ANY idea if that's true. And 2019 Schwarber would 100% help this team. I agree completely with upgrades in SP and RF........but there is zero reason acquiring Kyle Schwarber has to stop you from filling those holes with valuable pieces.

In terms of Schwarber and Vaughn...... I like Andrew a lot but we still have very little idea where he is on his development track. Signing Schwarber to a 1 year "prove 2019 was the real you" deal doesn't set the Sox back in any area. If Vaughn starts in AAA and just mashes......then he either stays there and continues to mash, or you bring him up and now you have a log jam at LF/1B/DH. If Eloy-Abreu-Vaughn-Schwarber are all hitting well and one has to sit..........so what? Good problem to have. My gut is one of them isn't and TLR will need to get creative with lineup construction on a daily basis. Acquire as many good players as possible, let the chips fall where they fall. Andrew Vaughn at this point in his career shouldn't be stopping the Sox from signing a veteran to a one-year deal.

Here we go!

It was a topic in the game thread today and I think it probably deserves a thread. James McCann has had a very good Sox career in his 130 games. Sporting an .801 OPS while being a leader on this team, reliable defense behind the plate and maybe most importantly.....provides stability and comfort to the ace of this staff. It's crystal clear Lucas really enjoys having James behind the plate. McCann just recently turned 30 and will be a FA at the end of the year. He's currently making 5.4 million this season. In theory, James is looking at his one big payday this offseason, and wants to be a starter. I'm sure there at least a handful of teams that can promise him that. With Grandal here......what should the Sox do with McCann? Does a 3/30 deal make sense for the Sox? For McCann? Do the Sox keep their flexibility and use their qualifying offer on him this offseason? Does McCann accept it, or still test the market? Lots of questions and I think it's a good conversation to have, a lot of different variables at play, might not be a right answer...

Ehhh...I think Nylander for Jokiharju is already a disaster, and going to get worse. If they are as bad as they look, I don’t see how Stan sticks around.

So Brodie Van Wagenen asks for Vaughn-Madirgal-Cease, you're moving them for him? And how is Tim on your list, but not Moncada?

And what are they paying? Who would you trade?

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 20, 2017 -> 07:23 PM) When did Sale sign extension? He may have been 2012 but for most part the early lockups seemed like a Hahn thing. I don't recall them under Kenny except Santos? Hahn was doing contracts for the Sox well before he was named official GM, so not sure that exercise is that valuable.