Tony

I think some of the posts here are missing the bigger problem. It’s not just about player selection. With the players listed having success elsewhere..it’s not about player identification, but how those talents are used and developed. We’ve seen it far too many times for it to be a random coincidence. The coaching and player development, at all levels, just isn’t close to where it needs to be in order to be competitive.

Good for you. I'm in the North Shore and while I don't see me ever going to the Cubs, I would have no problem giving my fandom to the Brewers. I miss caring about baseball.

There are plenty of reasons. I’m a fan of the White Sox, not the owner. Jerry Reinsdorf isn’t the White Sox. And at this point, I’m not ready to let Jerry make me root for another franchise. If he decides to actually sell the team to an owner that has no interest in keeping the Sox in Chicago, then I’ll feel OK moving on.

f***’em, move the team. End of us this misery. Do I want an actual owner who is interested in fielding a competitive team in Chicago? Of course, but that seems like such an impossible ask at this point, I’d be fine with them moving and let me be a true “fan free agent”

And given that Fields hasn't been great but the Steelers have still been winning, you have to think that went into the decision by Pittsburgh. If Fields isn't giving them great production but the team can still be successful, why not see if Russ can do the same, and save them having to give up a 4th?

They clearly needed a few weeks to get going, and playing the Texans in Week 2 didn’t help. They have been fortunate to have a really soft schedule the last 3 weeks, and they need to go 3-1 in their next 4 honestly if they want to be a playoff team. But they are doing exactly what you should be doing to bad teams, and that’s stepping on their neck. Caleb’s last two weeks have been better than anything Fields did in 3 years here. He’s the real deal, they just have to get this OLine bolstered with some more talent, and hopefully the coaching staff can keep up. They still worry me, but there are a lot of good pieces here.

Heard Caleb postgame, that ball was supposed to be at the back of the pylon, just under threw it. Bad ball, it happens, but just bad execution by him, in an otherwise great day

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The Yankees were 3rd in MLB in runs scored, 1st in HR's, 3rd in OBP and 4th in Slg. % But don't let facts get in the way of you being an dolt.

The concept on paper of CHSN being on free tv is a good idea. The problem is it’s not practical. Most people have either XFinity or YTTV. That’s how they watch TV. In order to watch the White Sox, they will need to switch inputs on their TV, and locate the channel via OTA. While it doesn’t seem like a lot of effort (and it isn’t) it’s not how people are conditioned to watch TV. And given the state of all three teams on CHSN, fans shouldn’t have to take additional steps to watch their favorite teams, they should make it as easy as possible. At this point in time, most people have to buy an additional piece of equipment to tune in, and that doesn’t pass the smell test in 2024

While I agree and Jerry probably feels the same...that 14M most likely isn't going to be spent on anything else.

That article makes absolutely zero sense, for like, a million reasons. No.

Yeah, people just saying the same thing over and over gets super annoying. Totally agree.

If your expectation for him to drool during a press conference, then he clearly isn't capable of running an organization, and someone who is still involved in the day to day decision making process, when it comes to baseball.

Judging by very quick reaction online, it seems like Giants fans are excited that Farhan is gone, but a little confused that Posey is taking over, as they should be. Seems like a case where he's got a spot in the ownership group, said he could do a better job, and they just ran with it. But to Kyle's point, it's a much easier sell to a fan base when the player/organization has success to point back to. Obviously someone like Posey is beloved in SanFran, he may not be in 5 years, but people tend to look over the inexperience when you've got 3 rings on your hand.

We're in basic agreement here, as part of the reason there was so much anger about the "not wanting to waste a year" was because the fan base knew this was not an easy fix. However, and something you've spent plenty of time arguing with people over, is the entire premise of why Getz is here. Jerry is a lot of things, but he's not a dumb person. He stood in front of the media last season, twice actually (he also held a private, media-selected interview in his office the same day as the press conference) and in both cases, cited the main reason of hiring Getz was not wanting to waste a year, he knew the people in the organization, he knew what needed to be fixed and corrected. He wanted this fixed, but also fast, because he doesn't have a lot of time left to waste, and because Getz had been here, he made the most sense. While I don't think Jerry truly thought 2024 would be a team competing for a playoff spot, clearly he didn't think it would go like this, otherwise we don't get two statements from him at the end of the year. The frustration from fans comes from the idea that because Chris Getz has worked within the White Sox organization, he automatically has a leg up on any other human that could have assumed this role. No one else on Earth could have accomplished what Chris Getz did in 2024, because he already knew what was broken, as he was already "inside" the building. The hell with interviewing anyone from the outside, or from organizations that have run laps around the White Sox the last decade plus, Chris Getz can fix this thing faster than anyone because he knows the team. And that's why he is assuming the role of GM for the White Sox. That's it. And that's why people won't accept him as deserving of this role.

I understand what you are trying to communicate. Jerry should face the music and be forced to answer the questions that need to be answered. Your point (at least as far as I can tell) is that the media isn't going to ask or press him on anything that difficult, so it's not going to accomplish much. What should happen is Getz and Jerry should host a town hall at SoxFest, and give fans the opportunity to actually voice their frustration and get answers, but that will NEVER happen, for obvious reasons.

I don't think that is true at all. There is a difference between people not believing it would work or be effective, and Jerry actually thinking it's true. I believe Jerry thought Getz would know best and he thought 2024 could have been a "bounce back type year" if guys were healthy. I also believe Jerry is lazy and doesn't care much, and part of the decision was that it was simply an easy, right in front of him choice. But I don't think Jerry was straight up "lying" with that line, at least not in his eyes.

It shows how insulated he is to think this is all that is needed

Of course picking 1 would be the preference lol, just saying it’s not as franchise altering as it usually is in other sports

As others have already stated, it’s just not the right message to send after you just set the record for the most losses in MLB history. On the other hand, nothing he said was wrong. “Where we stand right now, it’s very clear that we’ve got some work to do and the pathway out of that is to be healthy underneath the organization. And that’s what we’re determined to do. We’re not going to take shortcuts.” “We’ll go into this offseason and do what’s best for the long-term health,” he said. “You’ve got an ability to go into the free-agent market, you’ve got potential trade acquisitions. We’re going to do everything that we can to improve this major-league club, but we’re certainly not going to be short sided.” As stand alone quotes, it’s fine. But as it so often happens, they’re insulated in this bubble and lose sight of who they are speaking to. When Merkin or Fegan hold a phone in front of their face for quotes, Getz isn’t speaking to Merkin or Fegan. He’s speaking to the fan base, the media are simply the middle men. Speak to the fan. They should be HAMMERING the talking points about how unacceptable this season was, that it can never happen again, that they are sleeping in the front office to put in the time to make this thing better. But Getz has this almost aloof attitude when he speaks like “I mean, what did everyone expect? Yeah we’re bad, but what’s new? No big deal, we’ll hopefully figure this out by 2028.”

Sort of a minefield as well since 2000 for No. 1 picks. You’ve got guys like Bryce, Mauer, Adley, Cole, but you’ve also got Bryan Billington, Tim Beckham, Mark Appel and Luke Hochevar.

Congrats to all involved