Tony

It's become incredibly clear their scouting/drafting/development process is incredibly broken. (Where have we heard this before?) You draft Amegadjie in the 3rd round last year, in one of the most arrogant drafts I can remember. Poles acted like they could get cute and add the finishing touches to an elite team. Dude can't play, was right in the bubble of being cut during training camp this year. You followed that up by taking a punter in the 4th round, who has been average at best in his short NFL career. This year, all offseason, fans and media regurgitated the same talking points over and over again, because they were true. "Fix the trenches. That's where the focus needs to be. You win and lose in the trenches and the Bears need to get much better on both sides of the ball." Knowing that, the Bears took and TE and WR with their first two selections, because why not? Ok, now with those out of the way, lets draft an OL and DE with our remaining 2nd round picks. Neither one has played a snap of NFL football in Week 2. As I posted yesterday, Potash had the tweet that 18 of the 19 OL drafted in the first two rounds in the 2025 draft have already made at least one start for the teams that drafted them. Of course the Bears are the one exception. It's just rotten.

Dude, we get it. You don't have to respond to every post with the same thing

Feel like Roschon wasn't very healthy in camp, just got jumped on the pecking order. But that's clearly the least of their problems

So just like Week 1, Loveland has made zero impact. Ozzy isn’t dressed, Burden has one return, Turner isn’t dressed. How’s that for 4 picks in the first two rounds.

There isn’t a “right one” ever, to take Top 5 overall.

I will now need to be convinced Caleb is actually good.

I think right now there are a lot of similarities between Fields and Caleb. Tons of athleticism, talent is there, but the processing, accuracy and consistency just doesn’t seem to be there. And I don’t know if it gets better. We’re gonna find out

There is a long way to go, and given what they invested into Caleb, and how much he is tied to Poles....they are going to give him EVERY chance to succeed. But, Flash just asked the question "There’s no way you could allow Poles another crack at drafting a quarterback, right?" That could be after the conclusion of the 2026 season (so the Bears give Caleb all of this year and all of next year to see what he can do) If at that point, with like 48-50 games under his belt...if they are in the same spot that they were with Mitch and Justin, I think it's a valid question...does Poles get a crack at finding the next QB? The answer is unfortunately probably yes, given Poles reportedly had two more years left on his deal and the Bears already gave him an extension (for what, I have no idea) but he's 15-36 as a GM, and if they are in a position to draft a QB after the 2026 season that record is going to be worse than it is now. At what point is enough enough? Long way down the road, and we're all hoping it never gets to that point, but it's not a totally unfair question.

Correct. I mean he's an NFL QB. He's going to be able to complete some really good throws. But doing it on a consistent basis is a whole different animal. Thus far, he has shown us time and time again his touch on the deep ball is incredibly inconsistent. Case in point:

While I haven't watched it myself, have seen a lot of people I trust on X talking about how bad the All-22 is for Caleb. The scheme seemed to be there, even in Week 1. The QB didn't execute.

Especially when you won 5 games last year. I get every pick isn't going to be a home run, but just looked it up: Burden played 22% of the snaps. Loveland 57%, but again was 2/12. Ozzy didn't even make the field. Why are you spending capital on an OL IN THE 2ND ROUND if he isn't going to play, even a snap?

Thought about this late last night Your first three picks this year were Loveland, Ozzie and Burden. Loveland was 2/12 last night I didn’t see Ozzie on the field Burden had 1 catch for -3 yards last night

No, but that doesn’t mean Caleb is the answer. Could be…but I’m not a believer yet

I don’t want the city to “turn” on anyone…but EVERYTHING has been given to him this season. It’s ALL set up for him…if he can’t do this, then onto the next one, unfortunately

They have -1 yards of offense in the 2nd half. Yeah, no.

Someone needs to make a play, because the field is slanted toward the Vikings big time right now. Offense has no synch, looks like every other season right now.

They should get credit for his "development" as he will have totally come up through the White Sox system...but the point is (or at least my point, and what I thought you were trying to say) is they need to draft these guys. Again, acquiring Montgomery came at the cost of a developed, successful, young MLB player. If you aren't drafting well, not spending top dollar on free agents, and the international pipeline closes....not a lot of pathways open for long-term success. And wouldn't you know it...the White Sox finished the last four seasons: 2021: 1st in Division 2022: 2nd in Division 2023: 4th in Division 2024: 5th in Division

Splitting hairs, but Montgomery was the centerpiece of the Crochet deal. It took giving up an asset to acquire him, and I think that's the point a few were trying to make. And really the only way to truly have sustained success is to DRAFT & Develop. You don't draft well, the well runs dry really quick.

The Packers pash rush is going to be a problem all year for other teams...but it was evident early the Lions didn't seem to have any interest in airing anything out, it was all screens and dump offs basically the entire first half. There was NO pop to that offense.

I think there are a few things at play. When the Wickersham article came out a few months ago, it painted Caleb as the victim and made the coaching staff look awful. Eberflus, Waldron, Thomas Brown, Chris Morgan and a host of others lost their jobs, a lot centering around the failures of Caleb’s development, or lack of development. There was bound to be a response from the staff to partly rebuild their reputation. But I’m sure there are plenty of truths in the article as well. It’s a very bad look for Caleb and the front office. Luckily, Caleb is in control of making the entire article irrelevant with how he plays this season.

Winning 6 games will be a monumental under achievement for this group, doesn't matter the schedule. This isn't a Super Bowl roster by any stretch, but the floor should be 8 wins. They spent a ton of money on the offensive line, have objectively one of the best receiving rooms in the NFL (WR/TE) and spent the No. 1 overall pick on a QB last year. They won 5 games last year which included an almost unbelievable 10 game losing streak, led by totally unprepared coaching staff. Expectations need to be raised. Yes, there could be some struggles early as the offense finds it's way under Ben Johnson, but this is the NFL. Training wheels are off. Caleb got his NFL experience (both good and bad) last year. Of course there is going to be continued development, but it's go time. Time to start winning games, using the weapons on the roster, preparing to take the jump to legit playoff team next season.

I think the Sox can breath easy their record won't be broken in 2025. Congrats to all involved.

But I think to the point James is making...him going down with another long term injury after the July 31st deadline had to be factored into some of their thought process. This is nothing new for Robert and the Sox. So if they decided to hold onto him after July 31st, it's either trade him in the offseason or have him play CF for the Sox in 2026, no matter what happens in August/September of 2025.

That was their pivot after Zach Wheeler turned them down. Things would have looked a lot different if Wheeler accepted the Sox offer.